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===Topic: '''''Progress, Rebellion, Joseph Smith'''''===

===Topic: ''Progress, Rebellion, Joseph Smith''===

===Group: [[Lightline TeaM]]===

===Group: [[Lightline TeaM]]===

==Facilitators==

==Facilitators==

FRANK:        This is Frank.  You don’t have to extend the invitation to me twice for me to seize this opportunity to address my human counterparts, my celestial brethren and sistren who wish that they had the opportunity that I have had to communicate and I consider this a privilege and never shun my responsibilities. For those who are new, I am a personal teacher of this my human subject, a very complex individual who means well, and has a heart.

FRANK:        This is Frank.  You don’t have to extend the invitation to me twice for me to seize this opportunity to address my human counterparts, my celestial brethren and sistren who wish that they had the opportunity that I have had to communicate and I consider this a privilege and never shun my responsibilities. For those who are new, I am a personal teacher of this my human subject, a very complex individual who means well, and has a heart.

===Lesson===

===Lesson===

===='''''[[Progress]]'''''====

====''[[Progress]]''====

Tonight I wish to speak you about progress … progress of your civilization, progress as a planet. Those of you who have read The Urantia Book know for sure what your ultimate destiny will be. You have been introduced to the idea of a planet reaching certain stages of life and life; however, you can see many are eons away from that reality. At this time, then, you as a human being can work towards experiencing light and life within your own consciousness, within your domain of activity. You can progress to the point where you eradicate fear, envy, jealousy, the need for revenge, all those negative traits; you can replace them with loving thoughts and action, toward those who may have offended you.  It might seem unfair that you should give up the right to get even, the right for you to even the score, but you are in fact retarding your progress when you engage in such pursuits.

Tonight I wish to speak you about progress … progress of your civilization, progress as a planet. Those of you who have read The Urantia Book know for sure what your ultimate destiny will be. You have been introduced to the idea of a planet reaching certain stages of life and life; however, you can see many are eons away from that reality. At this time, then, you as a human being can work towards experiencing light and life within your own consciousness, within your domain of activity. You can progress to the point where you eradicate fear, envy, jealousy, the need for revenge, all those negative traits; you can replace them with loving thoughts and action, toward those who may have offended you.  It might seem unfair that you should give up the right to get even, the right for you to even the score, but you are in fact retarding your progress when you engage in such pursuits.

   

   

I’m not feeling any particular urge or any particular direction. There are, as I said, a number of teachers here but none of them are coming forward.  Perhaps what we might do then is engage with you, the listener, somewhat.  If you want to engage with us, which I wish you would, press star six on your hand-held device and that will open the avenue for communication. If you have a question, if you would like to hear from a particular teacher, if there is some direction you could give us, that would be helpful.

I’m not feeling any particular urge or any particular direction. There are, as I said, a number of teachers here but none of them are coming forward.  Perhaps what we might do then is engage with you, the listener, somewhat.  If you want to engage with us, which I wish you would, press star six on your hand-held device and that will open the avenue for communication. If you have a question, if you would like to hear from a particular teacher, if there is some direction you could give us, that would be helpful.

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

===='''''[[Cults]]''''', '''''[[Tradition]]'''''====

====''[[Cults]]'', ''[[Tradition]]''====

Mark:  Yes, I have a question. I have a historical question. I have heard, or at least I have read in transcription Monjoronson speak approvingly of Joseph Smith, father of Mormonism, but I’ve also heard a number of historians on this side of the veil who have called him a complete charlatan.  Is someone there who is witness to--? I’m sure there are many here this evening who are eye-witness to that situation.  Is there someone there who is willing to give us their considered take on Joseph Smith? Please.

Mark:  Yes, I have a question. I have a historical question. I have heard, or at least I have read in transcription Monjoronson speak approvingly of Joseph Smith, father of Mormonism, but I’ve also heard a number of historians on this side of the veil who have called him a complete charlatan.  Is someone there who is witness to--? I’m sure there are many here this evening who are eye-witness to that situation.  Is there someone there who is willing to give us their considered take on Joseph Smith? Please.

   

   

   

   

Mark:  Um-hum.

Mark:  Um-hum.

===='''''[[Politics]]'''''====

====''[[Politics]]''====

JACK:  I should say “the same God” because everyone has the same concerns in terms of -- they want to have a safe place to raise their children; you know, those fundamental things.  But all good people want that, whether they are progressive or retrogressive. Generally speaking, those are just human concerns that you care for your young and want to make life better for them. It is a bit more than that in creating civilization, especially a spiritually-based civilization, but our planet has not yet seen much of that. There’s been a lot of talk about it, but it has not yet been actualized.

JACK:  I should say “the same God” because everyone has the same concerns in terms of -- they want to have a safe place to raise their children; you know, those fundamental things.  But all good people want that, whether they are progressive or retrogressive. Generally speaking, those are just human concerns that you care for your young and want to make life better for them. It is a bit more than that in creating civilization, especially a spiritually-based civilization, but our planet has not yet seen much of that. There’s been a lot of talk about it, but it has not yet been actualized.

   

   

   

   

JACK:  Are there other questions?  [Long pause]  It would seem we are having a short night.  Perhaps you feel you have been cheated by not having Tomas, or Merium, or Andromadeus, or Paulo, or Charles or one of the TeaM speak.  Hold on.  Let me see if any of them are willing to do a few words.  One moment.

JACK:  Are there other questions?  [Long pause]  It would seem we are having a short night.  Perhaps you feel you have been cheated by not having Tomas, or Merium, or Andromadeus, or Paulo, or Charles or one of the TeaM speak.  Hold on.  Let me see if any of them are willing to do a few words.  One moment.

===='''''[[Rebellion]]'''''====

====''[[Rebellion]]''====

PAULO:  This is Paulo, and I will certainly take the helm for a moment.  For those of you who do not know me, I am a part of the Teacher Corps and my specialty, if you will, is rebellion. I generally serve where rebellion is rampant.  And even there, I generally head for the thick of it.  I spend a great deal of my time in the war zone, or in the rooms where peace talks are being held. I will be spending some time in Washington DC in the next few weeks. There is great conflict and tremendous rebellion going on. There is rebellion that occurs invariably in competition. It’s like people get fired up with competitive nature and forget what they are about. They become irascible and emotional and illogical. They just become belligerent and hostile for no reason. Because the political edge is so great, they become threatened and vicious.  

PAULO:  This is Paulo, and I will certainly take the helm for a moment.  For those of you who do not know me, I am a part of the Teacher Corps and my specialty, if you will, is rebellion. I generally serve where rebellion is rampant.  And even there, I generally head for the thick of it.  I spend a great deal of my time in the war zone, or in the rooms where peace talks are being held. I will be spending some time in Washington DC in the next few weeks. There is great conflict and tremendous rebellion going on. There is rebellion that occurs invariably in competition. It’s like people get fired up with competitive nature and forget what they are about. They become irascible and emotional and illogical. They just become belligerent and hostile for no reason. Because the political edge is so great, they become threatened and vicious.