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best wishes, jim--rdavis 18:02, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 
best wishes, jim--rdavis 18:02, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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Jim Cleveland to tml at 11:23 AM, 10/10/2011
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The event inspired Mark and I, we were rewarded for the step of faith that carried us to Chicago, and we eventually produced 10 CDs together. I began transmitting the next month and have been blessed with the connection ever since.
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Conversely, like the FOG episode ten years earlier, it embarrassed the hell out of a bunch of analytical folks and they stomped off into a sour disposition. A sizeable number of those people showed up in doubt and cynicism and didn't believe it would happen, certainly contributing nothing to the collective positive energies that were being summoned to assist.
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Some joined a circle of energy in the room and actively participated. For them it was like Pentecost, with new energies coming in. The expeience was real. Others sat trying to wrap their minds around it, minds twisted by the new-age like ceremony before them, the kind of thing which sullies their intellectual worship of the UB, and a big assertive woman transmitter in a white gown they didn't know. Sedona must have set off an alarm to some Urantians. 
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Perhaps you get out of something what you put into it.
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Except for seeing morontian personalities. We didn't do that in Naperville, and most of us have never seen one in our whole lives. At Naperville, it was no different.
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The guys with the video camera must have particularly been disgusted. But .... can you imagine the audacity of showing up for a spiritual event with a camera, with a bunch of skeptics, in a blooming Holiday Inn. If a spectre had appeared, the whole place would have probably fallen into a panic, with people falling down and crying, running out of the room, etc. The camera men would be running across the parking lot to the studio to see what they captured and get it on TV. What a mess.
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There was also the immediacy of the Waco cult people being burned alive at that time, and whether the timing was right for a spectre appearance and its consequences.
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There was also the matter of people turning off all the lights in the room, which reportedly made it very difficult to observe a morontian figure. Duh. So much for candlelight for atmosphere.
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And there were those who are so wedded and welded into their material eyes, that they stormed away from the scene and did not bother to hear the transmissions that followed in an alcove, and when workers came to clean up the alcove, we re-entered the large room, and continued the discussion. Many heard none of these, having fled. Some flocked to the hotel lobby and chatted among themselves, laughing at the tomfoolery of the whole thing and people's deleterious imaginations.
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Perhaps we are always making something out of our own minds, when the whole idea is to turn them off and open to Spirit. A number of humans in Naperville were and are still heavily invested into their own logical minds, and it rules them. It is altogether too difficult/fearful  for them to release any of this control. And they showed up in curiosity, believing that he would not appear. One TR group even had its own transmissions to refute it and they came anyway. Such a mix of negative and positive energies. --rdavis 17:17, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

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As I review the record, it becomes obvious there exists a pattern of 'disappointment' much like that of the Apostles. Can anyone add to the list of such serious Teaching Mission disappointments below.

1. Failure of Gabriel to appear in Thern Blackburn's basement. (date ?) 2. Reception (or lack thereof) of Teaching Mission by 'the Brotherhood'. 02-1992 3. Failed materialization of Melchizedeks. Remind me where and when please.

I appreciate the willingness to fatten upon disappointments!--rdavis 01:58, 6 October 2011 (UTC)


Donna D'Ingillo wrote on tml:

Reply to #3, that was April 1993 around the 26 or 27 if my memory serves me. Naperville, IL ( think it was a Holiday Inn or some other hotel like that)--rdavis 01:58, 6 October 2011 (UTC)


Gerdean wrote on tml:

3. Naperville, Illinois. April 24, 1993.

this confirms the date mentioned in the record.


Hi,

TeaM book now down to about 640 pages. No more size problem.

Tarkas had a worship-prayer-forgiveness-loving service 4-step program for the stillness.

True that our first session with Tarkas was December, 1992. But Michael Painter and friends came over from Indy and he transmitted our new teacher.

We had other transmitters in coming weeks. Charlotte Gordon, a therapeutic touch healer; Linda McIntyre, a nurse in Indy; Ted Blaney, a P&G engineer in Cincinnati.

I started transmitting after being additionally inspired and gifted after the Naperville event.

That is the gathering in Chicago in which Machiventa formally established Urantia as the headquarters residency planet for the Correcting Time. He assumed morontia form and the broadcast was made throughout the local universe, transmitted by Marilyn Green.

As a grateful reward for our faithful participation, Machiventa said we would each be granted what we needed most going forward. I don't know if anyone even remembers this. I began transmitting for our shaky group following this serious human disillusionment and TRed for several years.

After the crowd dispersed from the main meeting in Chicago, Marilyn stayed to transmit some more. Susan Minarik transmitted Andrew. They were not able to shed much additional light on the ceremony that I recall. I am sure it was much more meaningful and impactful to the rest of the universe than to the cannibals who live here.

best wishes, jim--rdavis 18:02, 9 October 2011 (UTC)


Jim Cleveland to tml at 11:23 AM, 10/10/2011

The event inspired Mark and I, we were rewarded for the step of faith that carried us to Chicago, and we eventually produced 10 CDs together. I began transmitting the next month and have been blessed with the connection ever since.

Conversely, like the FOG episode ten years earlier, it embarrassed the hell out of a bunch of analytical folks and they stomped off into a sour disposition. A sizeable number of those people showed up in doubt and cynicism and didn't believe it would happen, certainly contributing nothing to the collective positive energies that were being summoned to assist.

Some joined a circle of energy in the room and actively participated. For them it was like Pentecost, with new energies coming in. The expeience was real. Others sat trying to wrap their minds around it, minds twisted by the new-age like ceremony before them, the kind of thing which sullies their intellectual worship of the UB, and a big assertive woman transmitter in a white gown they didn't know. Sedona must have set off an alarm to some Urantians.

Perhaps you get out of something what you put into it.

Except for seeing morontian personalities. We didn't do that in Naperville, and most of us have never seen one in our whole lives. At Naperville, it was no different.

The guys with the video camera must have particularly been disgusted. But .... can you imagine the audacity of showing up for a spiritual event with a camera, with a bunch of skeptics, in a blooming Holiday Inn. If a spectre had appeared, the whole place would have probably fallen into a panic, with people falling down and crying, running out of the room, etc. The camera men would be running across the parking lot to the studio to see what they captured and get it on TV. What a mess.

There was also the immediacy of the Waco cult people being burned alive at that time, and whether the timing was right for a spectre appearance and its consequences.

There was also the matter of people turning off all the lights in the room, which reportedly made it very difficult to observe a morontian figure. Duh. So much for candlelight for atmosphere.

And there were those who are so wedded and welded into their material eyes, that they stormed away from the scene and did not bother to hear the transmissions that followed in an alcove, and when workers came to clean up the alcove, we re-entered the large room, and continued the discussion. Many heard none of these, having fled. Some flocked to the hotel lobby and chatted among themselves, laughing at the tomfoolery of the whole thing and people's deleterious imaginations.

Perhaps we are always making something out of our own minds, when the whole idea is to turn them off and open to Spirit. A number of humans in Naperville were and are still heavily invested into their own logical minds, and it rules them. It is altogether too difficult/fearful for them to release any of this control. And they showed up in curiosity, believing that he would not appear. One TR group even had its own transmissions to refute it and they came anyway. Such a mix of negative and positive energies. --rdavis 17:17, 10 October 2011 (UTC)