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'''Byron Belitsos wrote:On Apr 25, 2014, at 11:48 PM'''
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I agree with Rob about this distinction, as the MM is indeed pointed toward the social and political dimensions as well as spiritual.
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However, Rob, I don't quite get your point about appeals to money, masses, etc. Don't see anything different than the usual here.
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But I do think the equation of Putin and Hitler is way off. And Putin is not the only aggressor; we now know that the West spent billions covertly to disrupt the existing regime in Kiev, and ironically, the current Kiev government has fascist tendencies and even has open Nazis in its supporters. Putin has become aggressive in part BECAUSE of this pro-Hitler element the fomented a coup against the elected government.
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That's my 2 cents,
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Byron
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PS  In connection with my conference out here in mid-June, I got in touch with Jeff Cutler and Liz Engstrom Cratty who were mentioned in NEC 18 for their work of bringing the SSDT model to University of Oregon. They agreed to drive south and speak on the subject at our conference and I am thrilled about that. Have a look at the current schedule which is shaping up quite well:
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http://evolving-souls.org/conference-schedule/

Revision as of 14:17, 26 April 2014

Lighterstill.jpg WARNING: Readers should be apprised of conflicting assessments of the document 2013-08-31-New Era Conversations 7 that cast doubt upon the integrity of the entire corpus emanating from its source.

Rob wrote tml: Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:55 PM

At least the mask is off for all to see the real Dick Cheney.

(see discussion page for 2013-08-31-New Era Conversations 7 for background).

Magisterial Mission coopted by NeoCons

Rob wrote tml: Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 7:29pmCT

Seriously, this obvious co-option of the Magisterial Mission by the NeoCons mirrors their takeover of the Teaching Mission Archives. Same strategy, same effect; persons of conviction go underground.

Rob wrote Nordan Editorial Advisory Board members: Wed, April 23 at 8:22pmCT

Dear Friends,

Daniel's transmitting proceeds without any discussion outside his small circle of devotees. As such, it seems the increasingly desperate appeals to money, mass audiences, and strong arm politics is becoming more vivid. Please read the NEC 19 document and its discussion page then let me know what you think.

Gratefully,

Rob

Rob wrote: Wed, April 23 at 8:31pmCT

"the Russian invasion of the Crimean peninsula?"

Daniel must not be able to read anything but commercial media. Next we will hear that the Malaysian flight was hijacked by Iranian terrorists with fake passports given that was the initial ploy.

"You see the incapable process that occurred in Syria. That situation devolved into. . . [as an aside for us, viewing this situation is far more than horrific or terrible or catastrophic;] the willful starving of a nation’s population by its leader is evil to the point of being a rebel of the universe."

Perhaps Daniel thinks fascist oligarchies fattening on genetically modified (poisoned) foods is good.

Gerdean wrote on tml: Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:29 PM

Thank you.

April 24, 2014

Mer wrote: April 24, 2014 at 12:47pm

Hi all;

As you know, I believe all transmissions are potentially subject to human error. When I reflect on Jesus' decision to avoid entangling his ministry in politics during his sojourn on the planet, it makes me doubt the credibility of transmissions where celestials on high are engaging in political commentary. It's not that I don't think the angels and Melchizedeks have an opinion about global events, but rather that it seems more likely they will advise us that we must solve these knotty problems ourselves.

warmly, Mer

Rob wrote: April 24, 2014 at 2:52pm

Hello Mer-

Thank you for sharing your thoughts! Political commentary is a part of political thought, the social dimension of spiritual thought. Michael/Jesus represents well the attitude of the Father standing aloof from political, social, and economic disputes while teaching how to perfect the inner spiritual life. Avonal Sons will differ in as much as they represent the Son whose responsibility is the governance of the group. Regardless, as he would be building upon the foundation of Michael's mission, it is hard to imagine a divine being upholding social practices built on deception.

Gratefully,

Rob

Marty Greenhut wrote on tml: Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 2:14 pm

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=11773

Evidence for Russian Involvement in East Ukraine Based on Shoddy Journalism Robert Parry: The Obama administration and Kiev government claimed that Russian soldiers were present at the building occupations, yet it turns out that this assertion was based on photos the U.S. government provided to NYTimes and that the newspaper since has had to retract

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=11773

Rob

Rob wrote: April 24, 2014 at 3:05pm'

Hello Marty-

Thank you for sharing evidence of misinformation used by those dependent upon deception to advance failed social programs predicated upon the illusion of isolation.

Gratefully,

Rob

April 25, 2014

Byron Belitsos wrote:On Apr 25, 2014, at 11:48 PM

I agree with Rob about this distinction, as the MM is indeed pointed toward the social and political dimensions as well as spiritual.

However, Rob, I don't quite get your point about appeals to money, masses, etc. Don't see anything different than the usual here.

But I do think the equation of Putin and Hitler is way off. And Putin is not the only aggressor; we now know that the West spent billions covertly to disrupt the existing regime in Kiev, and ironically, the current Kiev government has fascist tendencies and even has open Nazis in its supporters. Putin has become aggressive in part BECAUSE of this pro-Hitler element the fomented a coup against the elected government.

That's my 2 cents, Byron

PS In connection with my conference out here in mid-June, I got in touch with Jeff Cutler and Liz Engstrom Cratty who were mentioned in NEC 18 for their work of bringing the SSDT model to University of Oregon. They agreed to drive south and speak on the subject at our conference and I am thrilled about that. Have a look at the current schedule which is shaping up quite well: http://evolving-souls.org/conference-schedule/