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Please see the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2014-04-25-New_Era_Conversations_20 discussion page] on a previous contribution of this [[author]] to better understand why the content is in this discussion page rather than in the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2017-07-17-New_Era_Transition_19 article page].
Among the many objections to Daniel Raphael's work are:
*1. He cites academic authority using a bogus Ph.D.
*2. His work parrots Neo Conservative US foreign policy. [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-08-31-New_Era_Conversations_7 NEC 7][https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-09-13-New_Era_Conversations_8 NEC 8]
*3. He cites the Rothschild family as a model of social sustainability. [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2013-10-18-New_Era_Conversations_9#Lesson NEC 9]
*4. He has spiritual beings citing the amorality of their protocols.[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2014-04-25-New_Era_Conversations_20#Dialogue NEC 20]
Please see the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2014-04-25-New_Era_Conversations_20 discussion page] on a previous contribution of this [[author]] to better understand why the content is in this discussion page rather than in the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2017-07-17-New_Era_Transition_19 article page].
==General Comment(s)==
==General Comment(s)==
In this document, Daniel contradicts the [[Urantia Book]] paper on [[20:1|Descending Sons of God]]. Its tone also appears somewhat comparable to [[Ron Besser]] transmitting [[Gerdean]] and [[Thea Hardy]] as [http://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=7412.msg56846#msg56846 now seeing the light of Ron's methods] e.g. an act of desperation. This is not the first time Daniel has [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2017-03-13-New_Era_Transition_14 attempted holding persons hostage to the adoption of his programs]. Nevertheless, given [[Daniel Raphael]]'s history of
In this document, Daniel contradicts the [[Urantia Book]] paper on [[20:1|Descending Sons of God]]. Its tone appears somewhat comparable to [[Ron Besser]] transmitting [[Gerdean]] and [[Thea Hardy]] as [https://forum.serara.org/index.php?topic=7412.msg56846#msg56846 now seeing the light of Ron's methods] e.g. an act of desperation. This is not the first time Daniel has [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2017-03-13-New_Era_Transition_14 attempted holding persons hostage to the adoption of his programs]. Nevertheless, given [[Daniel Raphael]]'s history of
*1) [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-09-13-New_Era_Conversations_8 parroting NeoCon foreign policy],
*1) [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-09-13-New_Era_Conversations_8 parroting NeoCon foreign policy],
*2) [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-08-31-New_Era_Conversations_7#USA_Moral_Upholder.3F promoting American exceptionalism], and
*2) [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2013-08-31-New_Era_Conversations_7#USA_Moral_Upholder.3F promoting American exceptionalism], and
*3) [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2014-04-25-New_Era_Conversations_20 extolling amorality]
*3) [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:2014-04-25-New_Era_Conversations_20 extolling amorality]
to mention but a few of the problems with his thinking, I will place this and all further transmissions of his in the discussion page until such time as I am convinced by persons willing to express their reasons on record for placing it elsewhere..--rdavis 22:34, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
to mention but a few of the problems with his thinking, I will place this and all further transmissions of his in the discussion page until such time as I am convinced by persons willing to express their reasons on record for placing it elsewhere..--rdavis 22:34, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
3: you are ill prepared for the work of the presence of myself or Machiventa or of Christ Michael.
3: you are ill prepared for the work of the presence of myself or Machiventa or of Christ Michael.
Spiritually alert persons know that "from the perspective of spirit, we are perfectly positioned exactly where we need to be to take our next step. - [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1998-11-08-Perserverance#Judgment Ham].
Spiritually alert persons know that "from the perspective of spirit, we are perfectly positioned exactly where we need to be to take our next step. - [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1998-11-08-Perserverance#Judgment Ham].
4: You give yourself too much credit for being prepared for my presence.
4: You give yourself too much credit for being prepared for my presence.
5: We have spoken many times about the problem of the presence of a Divine Being on your world. It has not happened before except for the incarnation of Christ Michael. We do give great credit to Machiventa Melchizedek when he appeared so many thousands of years ago, but he is not divine.
5: We have spoken many times about the problem of the presence of a Divine Being on your world. It has not happened before except for the incarnation of Christ Michael. We do give great credit to Machiventa Melchizedek when he appeared so many thousands of years ago, but he is not divine.
See [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=20:1 Descending Sons of God] for clarification. Otherwise, emphasis on 'credit' points to a bankruptcy of thought.
See [[20:1 The Descending Sons of God|The Descending Sons of God]] and [[The Melchizedek Sons]] for clarification of 'divine' status. Otherwise, emphasis on 'credit' points to a bankruptcy of thought.
6: You are curious about whether the Teaching Mission will continue or fail. As you see, it is failing
6: You are curious about whether the Teaching Mission will continue or fail. As you see, it is failing
Teaching/learning truth is not something capable of failing. What is 'failing' is Daniel's expectation for both the Teaching Mission and the Magisterial Mission. --rdavis 01:37, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Teaching/learning truth is not something capable of failing. What is 'failing' is Daniel's expectation for both the Teaching Mission and the Magisterial Mission. --rdavis 01:37, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
'''On Jul 21, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Richard Voss wrote'''
Thank you. Sorry about the delay in weighting in on this discussion. I feel you have chosen the best option given the circumstances. Although some of what Daniel has voiced recently raises some red flags, I still feel great benefit from his sustainability lessons. I still find value in Daniels work. I'm not ready to put His transcripts in the same category as Ron's. What Ron shares seems to be self serving but I still discern the celestials to be giving voice to Daniel's work. May the Spirit be with you. Love you. Rick
'''On Jul 21, 2017, at 9:19 PM, Rob Davis wrote'''
Thank you for sharing Rick! I am convinced we are all contributing to the work of doing the will of God, including any who may “raise some red flags”. However, I feel compelled to express concerns when they are raised and include them in the pertinent discussion pages. This has led Daniel to prompt Jim Cleveland and a couple others to build another archive where discussion of these lessons is prohibited. Needless to say, this in itself, suggests a commonplace error with which we are all too familiar.
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