Talk:Nebadonia

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Ron Besser <Ron_Besser@comcast.net> wrote:

Hi rob, before you add comments - The name Nebadonia appears for the first time I know of (subject to further investigation) in August 1994, but there was an additional Creative Spirit proclamation on June 8, 1995. I would wait a few days before adding this part about when the name Nebadonia appears which I first thought was in June 1995, but her proclamation had to do with other issues I am not clear about tonight.

Sorry, Ron

She is communicating by name in this lesson 1993-09-21-Elyon Introduces Self and referenced perhaps incorrectly in the Celestial Discovery Group series though the latter may be in error. I will however, as you request delete your comments in this discussion page re: Nebadonia until further notice.The change is shown in the history of the page.--rdavis 04:23, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Nebadonia's name

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Ron_Besser <ron_besser@comcast.net> wrote:

Rob, (snipped comments germane to other pages)--rdavis 01:56, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

With regard to Mother Spirit's name Nebadonia, I have traced the use of the name in transcripts as far back as August 12, 1994. I can not find the name Nebadonia before that. I have a faint memory of 1994 somewhere when I was surprised that year at hearing the name and then saying something to the effect that makes complete sense to call her that - why didn't I think of it? There is no mention I can find of her being called Nebadonia in 1993 and in early 1994 she was still being referred to as Mother Spirit.

Normally it could be guessed that maybe at one of Michael's birthday celebrations on August 21, something like this may have come out, but on August 12, 1994, Pam Sanderson refers to Mother Spirit in the Tomas transcripts (Vol II) as Nebadonia, and in that collection after 8/12/94 Nebadonia as a name is mentioned five other times. I am really scratching my head about how this may have come about and why no direct transcript exists in the collection when Mother Spirit announced her name.

I also have a faint recollection that Mother Spirit underwent a personality status change in Nebadon around this time. That is the reason why she announced her name, or at least in conjunction with her change in personality status the name was volunteered. I can not find that reference either. I have Googled key words all over the internet hoping to catch a foreign site or an obscure English site with a transcript like that in it, but to no avail. These important changes still must exist in paper only and I am very disappointed that they never made it into the digital archives. Right now they are just sitting in someone's boxes of papers and I would be very happy to digitize them if someone can volunteer copies of all these transcripts from the year 1994.

She also made her own proclamation to coincide with Michael's 1995 proclamation, but the text (if it ever existed which I can not prove) does not seem to be available. My archiving started in 1994. Allene Vick did not start the newsletter until March, 1993. Transcripts up to March 1993 circulated mostly in hard copy. My contribution in collecting digitized transcripts did not begin until 1995 and then I did not make the collection available until 2000 and no Tmarchives until 2002 to store the collection in. So those activities in 1993 and most of 1994 were primarily paper notebooks or single sessions sent out as transmitted. The floppy disk which could hold 1.5MB did not appear until +/- 1990-1, and the older machines could not use them. Tapes were used but I never received them in that form as well. All of this is to identify why the majority of these early developments still remain on paper somewhere.

I am afraid this is where we have to leave it for now regarding Nebadonia's announcement of her name and personality status changes. We are lacking some critical material that would explain it.

Ron

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Rob wrote: Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Hello Ron-

Many thanks for your research! Yes, I am inclined to concur with your recognition of her name being announced in a manner that escapes at this moment a bona fide textual record. I am intrigued that you refer to lessons from her by name in 1994 that I can't see in TMArchives but do not see this lesson in 1993. Can you point me to those records in your archives with Nebadonia in 1994?

If you don't mind, I would like to record this exchange in the page on Nebadonia.

Gratefully,

Rob