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Truth is unfolding notwithstanding the best laid plans of mice and men.
Truth is unfolding notwithstanding the best laid plans of mice and men.
'''Jim posted to tml Thur, May 10, 2013 at 11:28AM'''
OK, back again. Where do we start?
Seems that reality always takes a holiday when your partisan rhetoric gets cranked up.
Let's see. Since Ron's Starbridge operations are fraudulent thieves per you and Rob, you want your chapter removed. After all these years of knowing that all TMers were invited to write their own experiences and views and we would give them the respect they deserve with their piece, you now give him no respect at all and only rancor because of your perceptions of his organization. His gift is tainted and we should hurtfully throw it back in his face per you and SORG ....... if we are to be true to the Urantia Book. Suddenly the Urantia Book becomes your cloak of righteousness and another spear hurled from your redoubt. Ron violates the Fifth Epochal Revelation. If you're not sure whether he's a crook or not, there is that blasphemy.
I'm sure, Gerdean, that this puts a lot of people in your box of condemnation, including our friends who believe they are transmitting Jonathan. Over the years you have confided in me personally to fire criticisms of fraud and (horrors!) presumed authority over you at many people, all of them still here and doing service work of significance. I remember it all, from 'queen bee' Rebecca and down through the ages. I wish you could finally get over your own tortured mind and give the rest of us some respect in what we believe and want to do, whether or not it agrees with your views and your path.
The Teaching Mission history remains what it was, with the addition of the Urantia chapter you've complained about. I've explained why it is included at various times and stand by all of those explanations. No need to explain again when it will be ignored. You profess to appreciate Vern Grimsley and the Family of God ideals but you have done nothing to clear his name and polish his reputation. I do it and you're mad about it. You don't want to aggravate the situation by straightening it out. You don't want to irritate contemptuous blowhards who are damaging our revelation. Doesn't compute.
And here's this gem at the bottom of your post.
YOU: While we're at it, maybe you'd better remove me from the Teaching Mission Network, as well. I'm not in this to make a name for myself, or to sell books or CDs, or to gain entry into the New Age culture. I am here to teach friendship with a personal God.
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Such nasty insinuations about making a 'name' for myself, selling books and CDs, deviating deleteriously to new agers. You, however, are cloaked in the goodness of simple teaching of friendship with God. Such pretentious self-righteous and devastatingly false crap. When have you done that? The Portal covers the entire planet and beyond and includes many authors who don't believe in the Urantia Book .... not when they can have their own movement.
These books and the CDs will do more for Stillness friendship with God in their first week of release than you will do in your entire lifetime on Urantia. And they will serve the cause for many years. And, believe me, you will be remembered too.
Too late to inject the 20-year battle with Ron into this project, however. It raged before the project was conceived, it rages on. Other than a couple of paragraphs of mention, it is all superflous to the book.
But it all reminds me of a telling story, back when you and I and Thea talked at length, and with enthusiasm about establishing a real Internet Community of teacher groups around the country. High hopes. But then Thea said she could not, in good conscience, spend time in graphic design and network promoting groups that transmitted the fictional Monjoronson. She just couldn't bring herself to do it.
Who can argue with another person's conscience? We have had a divided would-be community since Monjoronson showed up.
The reason why can be seen clearly in the fact that some people actually blame it on him for showing up at all. And the fact that a number of humans think that a number of other humans are either deluded or frauds and they think that constantly in their lives, often based on whether you like their personality traits or not.
If the Teaching Mission goes into demise, it will be because we couldn't comprehend or practice the lessons, even after years of repetition.
best wishes, jim
ps With this additional information, I'm sure you will want to continue with your fellows in making these books special, important work that rises above all the bickering. And since the Starbridge gift has no strings attached and is in support of all our work, we could possibly allow the Starbridge funds to support the Joys of Stillness CD. This would allow yourself and others to step in and finance the books, a great opportunity to be a part of the work and establish a lasting mark of philanthropy yourself. It's tax deductible.
'''Rob posted to tml Thur, May 10, 2013 at 11:39 AM'''
Free associations are by definition - free! Happily, the Teaching Mission is a spiritual initiative expanding well beyond the circles of its inception regardless of any human organization(s).
'''Gerdean posted to tml Thur, May 10, 2013 at 2:17 PM'''
"if we are to be true to the Urantia Book. Suddenly the Urantia Book becomes ...."
There is no "suddenly" about it.
I have always been steadfast about the Urantia Papers. Always. Since they found me in 1968. I made my first commitment to its teachings back then, and again after Alan and I divorced, and again after the NM TeaM died a natural death in it's 8th year.
I don't disdain or condemn any of these people, including you, Jim (unless it would be for transmitting Donald Duck in introducing the Teaching Mission to a new group of people in Ohio that day) but I have not held it against you all these years. Much of what we do -- all of us -- is naive, dumb, thoughtless, innocent. What I make noise about is the teaching of error as if it were truth when it is bound to affect the future course of destiny; there is no excuse for taking deliberate backward steps. We should know better. If we don't know better, then we should hang up our shingle and go back to class.
'''Ginny posted to tml Thur, May 10, 2013 at 2:27 PM'''
Gerdean,
I would like to know exactly what you think has been stated erroneously in the teaching mission that is contrary to the UB. I've read most of your posts but may have scanned too quickly. Refresh my memory if you please..thanks.......Ginny
'''Gerdean posted to tml Thur, May 10, 2013 at 3:15 PM'''
Ginny,
In the current instance, it is the idea that T/R's can transmit Thea Hardy, Rick Giles and other former TeaM associates from their new home in Mansonia. The UB is very clear that this is not permitted. And for obvious reasons. Yet it is being set forth by my well-meaning brethren, and this error is a major set-back for the angels of progress, imo.
