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===Dialogue===
 
===Dialogue===
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===='''''[[Politics]]'''''====
 
Nell; Thank you JarEl, as you brought up the founding of this nation, tomorrow we will choose another [[leader]]. It is quite a [[dilemma]], who do I choose. I could ask for [[advice]], but it is ultimately my decision to pick one. The [[candidates]] seem as [[confused]] as I am.
 
Nell; Thank you JarEl, as you brought up the founding of this nation, tomorrow we will choose another [[leader]]. It is quite a [[dilemma]], who do I choose. I could ask for [[advice]], but it is ultimately my decision to pick one. The [[candidates]] seem as [[confused]] as I am.
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JarEl: You can choose, because your nation stands on a very firm [[foundation]]. It stands on bedrock. It stands upon a declaration of [[integrity]], [[justice]] and [[equality]] and if the chosen leadership shall betray, the people of the nation and the system will justly deal with such an individual. Know that within your choosing for such an honorable position, even though less than honorable men may assume to fill these positions, it does not lesson the office for which they are being elected. Many times it is not until a person [[steps]] into the office that the [[individual]]s begins to mold to the dictates and demands of the office. You can thank your forefathers for establishing a system of [[government]] whereby the sets of power can be changed without severe destruction to the whole system, albeit a candidate will move the system towards one [[direction]] and the other candidate move it towards the other direction. There is still the voice of a [[democracy]] of democratic people. Until it happens that this world is [[transformed]] spiritually, and begins to govern loyally, all forms of government will be less than perfect and less than honorable. There will be a time in the distant [[future]] when mankind will evolve to the point where the [[threshold]] to self-government will be the threshold to the [[dawn]] ages of l[[ight and life]].
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JarEl: You can choose, because your nation stands on a very firm [[foundation]]. It stands on bedrock. It stands upon a declaration of [[integrity]], [[justice]] and [[equality]] and if the chosen leadership shall betray, the people of the nation and the system will justly deal with such an individual. Know that within your choosing for such an honorable position, even though less than honorable men may assume to fill these positions, it does not lesson the office for which they are being elected. Many times it is not until a person [[steps]] into the office that the [[individual]]s begins to mold to the dictates and demands of the office. You can thank your forefathers for establishing a system of [[government]] whereby the sets of power can be changed without severe destruction to the whole system, albeit a candidate will move the system towards one [[direction]] and the other candidate move it towards the other direction. There is still the voice of a [[democracy]] of democratic people. Until it happens that this world is [[transformed]] spiritually, and begins to govern loyally, all forms of government will be less than perfect and less than honorable. There will be a time in the distant [[future]] when mankind will evolve to the point where the [[threshold]] to self-government will be the threshold to the [[dawn]] ages of [[light and life]].
    
Know that whether political systems come and go, the spiritual kingdom is establishing a [[foundation]] and a connection with [[eternal]] [[deity]] and this is the most important [[politics]], the politics of your [[soul]], how are you growing spiritually? One day you will sit around and laugh that you even had to have these elections. Albeit some may be laughing now. You are correct, we cannot tell you that one is better than the other, it is which model do you choose.
 
Know that whether political systems come and go, the spiritual kingdom is establishing a [[foundation]] and a connection with [[eternal]] [[deity]] and this is the most important [[politics]], the politics of your [[soul]], how are you growing spiritually? One day you will sit around and laugh that you even had to have these elections. Albeit some may be laughing now. You are correct, we cannot tell you that one is better than the other, it is which model do you choose.
    
Steve; JarEl, thank you for an interesting pre-election eve message. It seems that not much [[discussion]] is being waged on the spiritual [[heritage]] upon which this country was founded. The [[foundation]], as you said is still solid, yet the frame at times seems shaky. I am wondering if you could comment on the [[changes]] and kinds of improvements we may enjoy and the type of [[republic]] in the [[future]] years as we begin to get closer both in [[spirit]] and [[practice]] living more according to the age of [[light and life]].  
 
Steve; JarEl, thank you for an interesting pre-election eve message. It seems that not much [[discussion]] is being waged on the spiritual [[heritage]] upon which this country was founded. The [[foundation]], as you said is still solid, yet the frame at times seems shaky. I am wondering if you could comment on the [[changes]] and kinds of improvements we may enjoy and the type of [[republic]] in the [[future]] years as we begin to get closer both in [[spirit]] and [[practice]] living more according to the age of [[light and life]].  
 
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===='''''[[Spirituality]]'''''====
 
JarEl: One of the things which may begin to make an appearance is the need to [[simplify]] life. As man begins to [[transform]] spiritually and grow in democratic societies, man will begin to sense that the whole of [[society]] will benefit more as the fascination with an [[individual]] accumulated [[wealth]] becomes less the goal, and as men begin to serve God's will in society you will see a [[wisdom]] beginning to establish itself. It is much better to have the lower echelon of society elevated to the point of [[respect]] and integrity and some form of [[health]] and [[happiness]], and that society begins to prosper and stabilize to the point where economically, things are not in such dramatic flux. The [[stability]] of the [[economics]] now is so [[fragile]] that a drop in the Dow could determine the economic downfall of large portions of the [[population]]. That there begin to be a sense of real [[identity]] with the real [[purpose]] of living. That this purpose shows that the [[quality of life]] is much better off with raising the future in the children and this will maintain and secure the future. Rather than glorify the middle-age [[male]] [[ego]] in society, begin to loosen the hold on [[the self]] and gravitate more towards the benefit of [[the whole]]. This has parallel [[metaphor]]s to the spiritual kingdom.
 
JarEl: One of the things which may begin to make an appearance is the need to [[simplify]] life. As man begins to [[transform]] spiritually and grow in democratic societies, man will begin to sense that the whole of [[society]] will benefit more as the fascination with an [[individual]] accumulated [[wealth]] becomes less the goal, and as men begin to serve God's will in society you will see a [[wisdom]] beginning to establish itself. It is much better to have the lower echelon of society elevated to the point of [[respect]] and integrity and some form of [[health]] and [[happiness]], and that society begins to prosper and stabilize to the point where economically, things are not in such dramatic flux. The [[stability]] of the [[economics]] now is so [[fragile]] that a drop in the Dow could determine the economic downfall of large portions of the [[population]]. That there begin to be a sense of real [[identity]] with the real [[purpose]] of living. That this purpose shows that the [[quality of life]] is much better off with raising the future in the children and this will maintain and secure the future. Rather than glorify the middle-age [[male]] [[ego]] in society, begin to loosen the hold on [[the self]] and gravitate more towards the benefit of [[the whole]]. This has parallel [[metaphor]]s to the spiritual kingdom.
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This is why it is important to develop a [[the kingdom|spiritual kingdom]] first, because the [[evolution]]ary and physical forms of [[government]] will have a strong spiritual [[scaffold]] upon which to build and operate themselves. Then you will begin to see tremendous advances in [[society]], [[science]], [[industry]]. This will make the quality of life for every individual who has the [[privilege]] to be born on this world as a person in l[[ife and light]]. There are less and less mistakes and more [[attention]] to the details of quality and importance of [[values]]. Right now the world is experiencing growing pains and tremendous [[pathology]] because society cannot stand without a spiritual core. Like man cannot stand without a spiritual core. Man cannot [[experience]] great [[evolution]] and [[transformation]] until he and she experiences this spiritually. Yes, there are many [[problems]] and they will not disappear until the minds open and begin to connect to the [[heart]] and begin to [[change]], and see the Will of the Father and its greater outworking within [[the kingdom]] of heaven and the hearts and minds of men.
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This is why it is important to develop a [[the kingdom|spiritual kingdom]] first, because the [[evolution]]ary and physical forms of [[government]] will have a strong spiritual [[scaffold]] upon which to build and operate themselves. Then you will begin to see tremendous advances in [[society]], [[science]], [[industry]]. This will make the quality of life for every individual who has the [[privilege]] to be born on this world as a person in [[life and light]]. There are less and less mistakes and more [[attention]] to the details of quality and importance of [[values]]. Right now the world is experiencing growing pains and tremendous [[pathology]] because society cannot stand without a spiritual core. Like man cannot stand without a spiritual core. Man cannot [[experience]] great [[evolution]] and [[transformation]] until he and she experiences this spiritually. Yes, there are many [[problems]] and they will not disappear until the minds open and begin to connect to the [[heart]] and begin to [[change]], and see the Will of the Father and its greater outworking within [[the kingdom]] of heaven and the hearts and minds of men.
    
I know that this sounds [[ideal]], yet it is the true way. It is unfortunate that the original concept to the planet was defaulted by [[rebellion]]. Part of the establishing of the spiritual [[contact]] with this world is to reestablish the patterning of personal spiritual [[transformation]], which will [[eventually]] transform this world into the correct pattern of [[growth]]. It can happen no other way. There are [[agencies]] which will not necessarily allow you to destroy yourselves, yet [[human being]]s must have the ability to grapple with [[difficulty]] and to distinguish [[quality]]. There you have it.
 
I know that this sounds [[ideal]], yet it is the true way. It is unfortunate that the original concept to the planet was defaulted by [[rebellion]]. Part of the establishing of the spiritual [[contact]] with this world is to reestablish the patterning of personal spiritual [[transformation]], which will [[eventually]] transform this world into the correct pattern of [[growth]]. It can happen no other way. There are [[agencies]] which will not necessarily allow you to destroy yourselves, yet [[human being]]s must have the ability to grapple with [[difficulty]] and to distinguish [[quality]]. There you have it.
 
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===='''''[[Science]]'''''====
 
Nell; I am [[thinking]] that as [[scientists]] discover more and more, new [[facts]], I am reading that they are finding[[ God particle]]s. There will come a point that more and more scientists will have to acknowledge that there is a [[God]]. When that happens and they openly declare, [[religion]] and [[science]] will really unite and this will be great. Religions will trust the scientists and there will be [[unity]]. Am I correct there?
 
Nell; I am [[thinking]] that as [[scientists]] discover more and more, new [[facts]], I am reading that they are finding[[ God particle]]s. There will come a point that more and more scientists will have to acknowledge that there is a [[God]]. When that happens and they openly declare, [[religion]] and [[science]] will really unite and this will be great. Religions will trust the scientists and there will be [[unity]]. Am I correct there?
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[[Scientist]] are discovering that there are [[other worlds]], and will [[discover]] ships from these worlds hovering over the planet, but the people of the planet are told to [[fear]] and get out their lasers, they might have to destroy the [[enemies]]. Right now the world is not ready for [[universe citizenship]]. There needs to be a [[spiritual]] [[transformation]] amongst enough people to begin to shift to the [[tide]] of [[awareness]]. Just as when scientists begin to discover God that there are enough people on the planet that actually know and have experienced God to know what science is talking about. The science needs to be transformed beyond its [[egocentric]] [[alchemy]] and religion needs to be transformed beyond its narrow [[ghost cult]] and [[nationalist]]ic separatist [[Ideology|ideologies]]. [[Individuals]] who will do this will transform it. There are many spiritual [[agencies]] now that are working with individuals. It is difficult, as you, yourselves know, it will take you personally several lives to transform yourselves. [[Life]] as you know it is not designed for spiritual [[transformation]], albeit it is [[fertile]] for spiritual transformation. It takes a concerted and [[focused]], dedicated [[effort]] to begin to see through the eyes of [[faith]]. Believe through the will of spirit to act out of courage and to love like it is the only gift you have.
 
[[Scientist]] are discovering that there are [[other worlds]], and will [[discover]] ships from these worlds hovering over the planet, but the people of the planet are told to [[fear]] and get out their lasers, they might have to destroy the [[enemies]]. Right now the world is not ready for [[universe citizenship]]. There needs to be a [[spiritual]] [[transformation]] amongst enough people to begin to shift to the [[tide]] of [[awareness]]. Just as when scientists begin to discover God that there are enough people on the planet that actually know and have experienced God to know what science is talking about. The science needs to be transformed beyond its [[egocentric]] [[alchemy]] and religion needs to be transformed beyond its narrow [[ghost cult]] and [[nationalist]]ic separatist [[Ideology|ideologies]]. [[Individuals]] who will do this will transform it. There are many spiritual [[agencies]] now that are working with individuals. It is difficult, as you, yourselves know, it will take you personally several lives to transform yourselves. [[Life]] as you know it is not designed for spiritual [[transformation]], albeit it is [[fertile]] for spiritual transformation. It takes a concerted and [[focused]], dedicated [[effort]] to begin to see through the eyes of [[faith]]. Believe through the will of spirit to act out of courage and to love like it is the only gift you have.
 
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===='''''[[Transformation]]'''''====
 
Chris; I am wondering if there's very much of a likelihood that we could wipe ourselves out and utterly fail, that the few left would see the [[light]], and is there a time limit on this. Seems like we will never get it.  
 
Chris; I am wondering if there's very much of a likelihood that we could wipe ourselves out and utterly fail, that the few left would see the [[light]], and is there a time limit on this. Seems like we will never get it.  
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There are people on the world today and many more being born who are here to [[change]] the world, who will have the [[courage]], the [[faith]], the functionality and the [[stamina]] to also 'walk the walk'. This world is destined for [[transformation]]. No matter how desperate or how much time it will take to learn the hard way, it will earn every inch, every [[value]], every [[insight]], every mistake will make a difference, he will have [[earned]] it. Then the world will begin to change. You can either help accelerate this or not. If you choose to help, you can at least rest assured that you are working towards a greater [[reality]]. One in which for you may not begin to manifest itself until you have left the planet and moved on to other worlds.
 
There are people on the world today and many more being born who are here to [[change]] the world, who will have the [[courage]], the [[faith]], the functionality and the [[stamina]] to also 'walk the walk'. This world is destined for [[transformation]]. No matter how desperate or how much time it will take to learn the hard way, it will earn every inch, every [[value]], every [[insight]], every mistake will make a difference, he will have [[earned]] it. Then the world will begin to change. You can either help accelerate this or not. If you choose to help, you can at least rest assured that you are working towards a greater [[reality]]. One in which for you may not begin to manifest itself until you have left the planet and moved on to other worlds.
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If you really believe that is possible and real, then you can begin act like it is real and possible to change what appears to be a desperate, a negligible, or an impossible situation. This is what we are asking you to believe without seeing. Not that you cannot see God nor the spiritual beings, but that you can't see a loving society, yet, one in which peace and love exist, you know that it is possible. This is what we are asking-you to believe without seeing. This is the true agondonter.
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If you really believe that is possible and real, then you can begin [[acting]] like it is real and possible to [[change]] what appears to be a [[desperate]], a negligible, or an impossible situation. This is what we are asking you to [[believe]] without seeing. Not that you cannot see God nor the spiritual beings, but that you can't see a loving [[society]], yet, one in which peace and love exist, you know that it is possible. This is what we are asking-you to believe without seeing. This is the true [[Agondonter]].
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So you are free to choose what you want to see. They are both there and they are both real, yet one of then won't last. Thank you.
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So you are free to choose what you want to see. They are both there and they are both real, yet one of then won't last.  
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Steve; sounds like the type of advice we would want the master to give us if he were here right now. Your outlook for the future is reassuring and the cautionary words are profound, sounds like good advice for those of us who are somewhat apprehensive and fearful. Could you comment on the agencies who you mentioned would not allow us to destroy ourselves.
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Thank you.
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JarEl; I was speaking of the midwayers, and yes there are liaisons also. Michael is here. He is here as the Spirit of Truth. He is here as a whole personality. Now that the midwayer corp has been up stepped with the reinstatement and recommissioned reconditioned rebel midwayers, it is hoped that a significant progress will shortly become obvious through the diligent and loyal, and very courageous work which this agency performs, not only for Urantia because they are guided through the dictates of Edentia and this world is also unique in that it is microscopically monitored by every imaginable [[celestial]] agency in the [[universe]] of [[Nebadon]]. It is because it is a decimal sphere and because it does not follow a proscribed administration, it is a tremendous opportunity for the celestial agencies to discover and manipulate and to hone skills which may be helpful on other worlds and in future times. Unlike you [[human]]s, who may see the overwhelming disadvantage to have been so unfortunate to be born on this sphere, we of the [[celestial]] realm view [[Urantia]] as a tremendous and unique [[opportunity]] to observe and to learn. We see the multiple variables [[contingent]] upon a well nurtured and well [[maintained]] [[rebellion]] [[attitude]] and how to [[interface]] and [[integrate]] the spiritual reality into the program of default and [[rebellion]].
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Steve; sounds like the type of [[advice]] we would want [[the Master]] to give us if he were here right now. Your outlook for the [[future]] is reassuring and the cautionary words are [[profound]], sounds like good advice for those of us who are somewhat apprehensive and fearful. Could you comment on the agencies who you mentioned would not allow us to destroy ourselves.
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JarEl; I was speaking of the [[midwayers]], and yes there are [[liaisons]] also. [[Michael]] is here. He is here as the [[Spirit of Truth]]. He is here as a whole [[personality]]. Now that the midwayer corp has been up stepped with the reinstatement and recommissioned reconditioned [[rebel midwayers]], it is hoped that a significant [[progress]] will shortly become obvious through the [[diligent]] and [[loyal]], and very courageous work which this agency performs, not only for [[Urantia]] because they are guided through the dictates of [[Edentia]] and this world is also unique in that it is microscopically monitored by every imaginable celestial agency in the universe of [[Nebadon]]. It is because it is a [[Decimal planet|decimal sphere]] and because it does not follow a prescribed [[administration]], it is a tremendous [[opportunity]] for the celestial agencies to discover and manipulate and to hone skills which may be helpful on other worlds and in future times. Unlike you [[human]]s, who may see the overwhelming disadvantage to have been so unfortunate to be born on this sphere, we of the [[celestial]] realm view [[Urantia]] as a tremendous and unique [[opportunity]] to observe and to learn. We see the multiple variables [[contingent]] upon a well nurtured and well [[maintained]] [[rebellion]] [[attitude]] and how to [[interface]] and [[integrate]] the spiritual reality into the program of default and [[rebellion]].
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===='''''[[Urantia]]'''''====
 
As I said, this world is meticulously and microscopically [[examined]]. So much so that it will be very [[difficult]], short of [[divine]] [[intervention]], which will allow the mortal [[inhabitants]] to completely [[annihilate]] the planet or destroy themselves. There are tremendous miscalculations, bad [[judgments]] and negligence on the part of the superior [[authorities]] on the planet, nonetheless, there are tremendous dealings and goings on behind the scenes and network to help maintain the best possible [[negotiations]] and [[relationships]] with all of the various [[conflicts]] of interests and [[ideologies]] that are running rampant on the planet at this time.
 
As I said, this world is meticulously and microscopically [[examined]]. So much so that it will be very [[difficult]], short of [[divine]] [[intervention]], which will allow the mortal [[inhabitants]] to completely [[annihilate]] the planet or destroy themselves. There are tremendous miscalculations, bad [[judgments]] and negligence on the part of the superior [[authorities]] on the planet, nonetheless, there are tremendous dealings and goings on behind the scenes and network to help maintain the best possible [[negotiations]] and [[relationships]] with all of the various [[conflicts]] of interests and [[ideologies]] that are running rampant on the planet at this time.
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