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===Opening===
 
===Opening===
 
Michael (Ginny TR): Greetings, my friends. I come in your midst as your sovereign and your friend. It gives me great joy to witness the yearnings and aspirations of your spirits in trying to accomplish the will of our Father. It is indeed a sight to behold, not only to me, but to all who are in attendance. As mortals you have your struggles, but you are doing well in your striving to become more and more spirit filled and God conscious. It is indeed true that the more time you spend in this rarefied atmosphere the easier it becomes for you to make decisions to speak, to offer help that is supportive and spirit filled, that comes from a loving heart and a willing mind. Each day as you make your small attempts to illuminate your environment and to share the light of God you become more adept and more relaxed at your performance. Any frequent practice always makes the performance easier. I come today to encourage you to continue in this manner with your desires and your attempts to become more and more luminous, and to become more and more effective in your ambassadorship. Be assured that I am with you always and continue to serve you even as you wish to serve. I give you my blessing, my love, and my peace. I take my leave.
 
Michael (Ginny TR): Greetings, my friends. I come in your midst as your sovereign and your friend. It gives me great joy to witness the yearnings and aspirations of your spirits in trying to accomplish the will of our Father. It is indeed a sight to behold, not only to me, but to all who are in attendance. As mortals you have your struggles, but you are doing well in your striving to become more and more spirit filled and God conscious. It is indeed true that the more time you spend in this rarefied atmosphere the easier it becomes for you to make decisions to speak, to offer help that is supportive and spirit filled, that comes from a loving heart and a willing mind. Each day as you make your small attempts to illuminate your environment and to share the light of God you become more adept and more relaxed at your performance. Any frequent practice always makes the performance easier. I come today to encourage you to continue in this manner with your desires and your attempts to become more and more luminous, and to become more and more effective in your ambassadorship. Be assured that I am with you always and continue to serve you even as you wish to serve. I give you my blessing, my love, and my peace. I take my leave.
 
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===='''''[[Jesus]]'''''====
 
Elyon (Jonathan): Hello, my good friends, this is Elyon. I am going to share with you some reflections about Michael. It eases Jonathan's mind to know that I will speak about Michael, that it was not Michael to speak through him on this subject. You have delighted our master son with your open discussion today regarding the needs of your fellows and your own abilities to minister to them and your reflection upon your own growth in regard to the needs presented to you by others. You have studied enough to know that Michael underwent a series of bestowal incarnations at various levels of creature life in Nebadon, and you are aware of his final bestowal on Urantia as a human. Being the Creator Son he is, he has all the qualities of the Father. As Son he carries these divine qualities into his universe and begins to manifest them as he brings about the creation. You each strive sincerely to understand your fellows. You struggle with the conflicts inherent in the fact that each of you is dual-natured, both spirit at the core and housed in animal form, and that you are distinct and so is another. In that state you may not always see exactly from the same vantage point. Michael has created a wide range of creatures, orders of beings of differing temperaments, aptitudes, and inclinations. Within each order again this diversity reveals itself from individual to individual. Being the creator, the source from which all these variations of creature being derive, he does understand these multifaceted manifestations, yet it was and still remains of vital importance that he underwent being each creature, for it revealed to him a perspective of living not found even by a creator who oversees creature life.
 
Elyon (Jonathan): Hello, my good friends, this is Elyon. I am going to share with you some reflections about Michael. It eases Jonathan's mind to know that I will speak about Michael, that it was not Michael to speak through him on this subject. You have delighted our master son with your open discussion today regarding the needs of your fellows and your own abilities to minister to them and your reflection upon your own growth in regard to the needs presented to you by others. You have studied enough to know that Michael underwent a series of bestowal incarnations at various levels of creature life in Nebadon, and you are aware of his final bestowal on Urantia as a human. Being the Creator Son he is, he has all the qualities of the Father. As Son he carries these divine qualities into his universe and begins to manifest them as he brings about the creation. You each strive sincerely to understand your fellows. You struggle with the conflicts inherent in the fact that each of you is dual-natured, both spirit at the core and housed in animal form, and that you are distinct and so is another. In that state you may not always see exactly from the same vantage point. Michael has created a wide range of creatures, orders of beings of differing temperaments, aptitudes, and inclinations. Within each order again this diversity reveals itself from individual to individual. Being the creator, the source from which all these variations of creature being derive, he does understand these multifaceted manifestations, yet it was and still remains of vital importance that he underwent being each creature, for it revealed to him a perspective of living not found even by a creator who oversees creature life.
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Today as you adjust to the trials of others and as you acknowledge and act upon your own struggles, carry it in your faith always that supremely Michael fully understands. He understands you; he understands that other one. When you reach in compassion toward your fellow, Michael reaches back to you in his Spirit of Truth. Michael reaches to the other from you, and this is your unity. Another may hold entirely different opinions than you. You may never fully understand your orientation. Michael has experienced both and every shade of variation between you, to every side of you, above you, and below you. Unification in spiritual harmony is had in the experience of the presence of Michael in his Spirit of Truth. Even the Father's presence, the Thought Adjuster, does not have this same coalescing effect, for as you have understood, this divine spirit is the Father Fragment; each distinct, discreet, and your personal gift. However, Michael is spread abroad encompassing you all collectively. Your unity in the Father is in the fact that you each have received His divine presence. You are Father blessed equally. Your unity in Michael is the fact that you share in community his divine presence, the Spirit of Truth. The Father indwells you; Michael permeates you. The Father is your Father, and you are all His children. Michael is your brotherhood; he is your togetherness. When you seek to understand your fellows, you are acting in the realm of the Son. When you seek to understand yourself, you are pursuing the Father. Be light upon yourselves as you mature in your spiritual dimension. Rest assured that there was many a night that Jesus spent awake wrestling with the perplexities of human relationship, stirring to understand how another thinks and feels and what his relationship would be to another. Michael knows. Michael understands and is fully capable and ever present to assist you in your discovery of solutions and your refinement of your talents. He has placed his arm upon your shoulder. As you place your arm upon the shoulders of your fellows in need, the circle is complete, for his arm is upon them as well. This is the manifestation of his Spirit of Truth. I have completed my discourse and would receive your questions if you are holding some at this time.
 
Today as you adjust to the trials of others and as you acknowledge and act upon your own struggles, carry it in your faith always that supremely Michael fully understands. He understands you; he understands that other one. When you reach in compassion toward your fellow, Michael reaches back to you in his Spirit of Truth. Michael reaches to the other from you, and this is your unity. Another may hold entirely different opinions than you. You may never fully understand your orientation. Michael has experienced both and every shade of variation between you, to every side of you, above you, and below you. Unification in spiritual harmony is had in the experience of the presence of Michael in his Spirit of Truth. Even the Father's presence, the Thought Adjuster, does not have this same coalescing effect, for as you have understood, this divine spirit is the Father Fragment; each distinct, discreet, and your personal gift. However, Michael is spread abroad encompassing you all collectively. Your unity in the Father is in the fact that you each have received His divine presence. You are Father blessed equally. Your unity in Michael is the fact that you share in community his divine presence, the Spirit of Truth. The Father indwells you; Michael permeates you. The Father is your Father, and you are all His children. Michael is your brotherhood; he is your togetherness. When you seek to understand your fellows, you are acting in the realm of the Son. When you seek to understand yourself, you are pursuing the Father. Be light upon yourselves as you mature in your spiritual dimension. Rest assured that there was many a night that Jesus spent awake wrestling with the perplexities of human relationship, stirring to understand how another thinks and feels and what his relationship would be to another. Michael knows. Michael understands and is fully capable and ever present to assist you in your discovery of solutions and your refinement of your talents. He has placed his arm upon your shoulder. As you place your arm upon the shoulders of your fellows in need, the circle is complete, for his arm is upon them as well. This is the manifestation of his Spirit of Truth. I have completed my discourse and would receive your questions if you are holding some at this time.
 
===Dialogue===
 
===Dialogue===
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===='''''[[Counsel]]'''''====
 
Evelyn: We were talking earlier about giving advice, how and when. It was pointed out the time when Jesus was sensitive to the yearning look in someone's face which told him that advice was welcome. How do we develop that talent, to know when our advice is welcome without asking? Maybe we should just ask.
 
Evelyn: We were talking earlier about giving advice, how and when. It was pointed out the time when Jesus was sensitive to the yearning look in someone's face which told him that advice was welcome. How do we develop that talent, to know when our advice is welcome without asking? Maybe we should just ask.
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Elyon: Indeed.
 
Elyon: Indeed.
 
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===='''''[[Reflection]]''''', '''''[[Morontia Bodies]]'''''====
 
Evelyn: When brainstorming in the leisure after the moment it's easier to come up with alternate ideas than right when something is happening. It isn't the same situation.
 
Evelyn: When brainstorming in the leisure after the moment it's easier to come up with alternate ideas than right when something is happening. It isn't the same situation.
    
Elyon: No, however, this reflective interval is beneficial and is a technique Jesus used with his apostles subsequent to any encounter with the masses. It allowed them to orient those events with higher teaching and to reconcile any feelings of failure or displeasure from what may have happened. These sessions of clarity derivation, though they make the prior experience seem so clouded with misunderstanding, they step you forward to a more effective approach at a subsequent time. You have done that today in your discussion, as you have shared with each other your own shortcomings as well as your successes in offering help to another. One day you will receive a morontia form, and this vehicle for morontia manifestation will be a thrill to you. You know the joy of driving a brand new car (Some in group: "No, we don't!") Everything works. This will be similar but greatly magnified when you resurrect and take on a morontia form. Everything works. And your ability to discern another's expressions will be clearer. Languages improve. The crude forms of hearing apparatus you have now will no longer be. Sound is augmented with vibrations your ears cannot hear. Your vocal expressions will also be expanded with tonalities you cannot express through your throats. Your eyes will see more deeply into the soul of another than they do now as they gaze upon your fleshly forms. And advice will be more appropriately timed and more likely well received.
 
Elyon: No, however, this reflective interval is beneficial and is a technique Jesus used with his apostles subsequent to any encounter with the masses. It allowed them to orient those events with higher teaching and to reconcile any feelings of failure or displeasure from what may have happened. These sessions of clarity derivation, though they make the prior experience seem so clouded with misunderstanding, they step you forward to a more effective approach at a subsequent time. You have done that today in your discussion, as you have shared with each other your own shortcomings as well as your successes in offering help to another. One day you will receive a morontia form, and this vehicle for morontia manifestation will be a thrill to you. You know the joy of driving a brand new car (Some in group: "No, we don't!") Everything works. This will be similar but greatly magnified when you resurrect and take on a morontia form. Everything works. And your ability to discern another's expressions will be clearer. Languages improve. The crude forms of hearing apparatus you have now will no longer be. Sound is augmented with vibrations your ears cannot hear. Your vocal expressions will also be expanded with tonalities you cannot express through your throats. Your eyes will see more deeply into the soul of another than they do now as they gaze upon your fleshly forms. And advice will be more appropriately timed and more likely well received.
 
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===='''''[[Growth]]''''', '''''[[Experience]]'''''====
 
Ginny: We need to learn to allow people to do their growing. It may be hard to watch someone suffer, but it's a growth time for them. They may not see it as they are experiencing it, but they will see later on. We might interfere with that growth.
 
Ginny: We need to learn to allow people to do their growing. It may be hard to watch someone suffer, but it's a growth time for them. They may not see it as they are experiencing it, but they will see later on. We might interfere with that growth.
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[[Category: Ginny]]
 
[[Category: Ginny]]
 
[[Category: Jonathan]]
 
[[Category: Jonathan]]
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[[Category: Jesus/TeaM]]
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[[Category: Counsel]]
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[[Category: Reflection]]
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[[Category: Morontia Bodies]]
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[[Category: Growth]]
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[[Category: Experience]]
 
[[Category: 2002]]
 
[[Category: 2002]]

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