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<blockquote>If you are not a mystic, if you are not one who speaks with your God presence within you, then you must learn how to discern to the realm of “trust.” Once you have had a God experience, then you move into the position of “knowing,” and this can never be taken away from you. So, for those who wish to participate in this program, to become partners in leadership, you must know who [the] beings of light are, how they act, how they behave and the messages they give, and have the capacity and skill to also discern those messages, which ones are of light and those that are not. With those two skills you can become exemplary followers, to implement what comes forward.</blockquote>
 
<blockquote>If you are not a mystic, if you are not one who speaks with your God presence within you, then you must learn how to discern to the realm of “trust.” Once you have had a God experience, then you move into the position of “knowing,” and this can never be taken away from you. So, for those who wish to participate in this program, to become partners in leadership, you must know who [the] beings of light are, how they act, how they behave and the messages they give, and have the capacity and skill to also discern those messages, which ones are of light and those that are not. With those two skills you can become exemplary followers, to implement what comes forward.</blockquote>
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'''Rob wrote: Monday, December 1, 2014 at 4:26pm'''
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Based upon my experience working with Daniel as a member of the original Starbridge Board of Directors where dueling TR's merely used a presumed authority based upon attribution to celestial beings to argue the points of terrestrial beings, I can't really see the difference between his concept of secular and 'spiritual'.
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<blockquote>It actually is our hope that we develop two groups of teams who are committed to that social sustainability: One that is based on the co-creative social team concept that uses a spiritual being, a Melchizedek, as who fills the Consultant role; and a secular Design Team that does not use an unseen spiritual consultant, but uses a wise mortal who can advise the group and the team of what is ahead and what is true, and what is not; what is valid now, today, and what will be valid thousands of years from now for your societies.</blockquote>

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