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A: Yes, yet indeed He Himself [[acted]] as [[servant]] on many occasions. What other word than "servant" would you use for the one whose life is spent in [[service]]?

A: Yes, yet indeed He Himself [[acted]] as [[servant]] on many occasions. What other word than "servant" would you use for the one whose life is spent in [[service]]?

Q: He was "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servant_songs the suffering servant]" [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Book_of_Isaiah#Chapter_.53] that was [[predicted]] in the [[Old Testament]].

Q: He was "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servant_songs the suffering servant]" [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Book_of_Isaiah#Chapter_.53] that was [[predicted]] in the [[Old Testament]].

A: Yes, indeed, and those who would follow Him also.

A: Yes, indeed, and those who would follow Him also.

S: The [[Urantia book]] says there is.

S: The [[Urantia book]] says there is.

A: Well, [[worship]] in the sense of [[doing the will of the Father]] is [[service]]. As far as a third party being involved, when you [[interact]] in a social way with another being, in a loving and serving way, you extend the [[connection]] between yourself and [[God]] to that third party. Yes, that is somewhat [[different]] from a [[private]] session with [[the Father]], but it is only a difference in [[degree]]. If one were to spend one's life in [[solitude]] [[reading]] spiritual materials and attempting through the [[Thought Adjuster]] to contact [[the Father]], the spiritual life would be incomplete and unfulfilled because the [[connection]] to other beings is a vital part of a proper [[worship]] [[existence]]. Much [[confusion]] about worship arises from [[ancient]] times in the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_III._The_History_of_Urantia history of man on Urantia] when [[superstitions]] and fear lead to the enactment of [[ritual]] behaviors designed to appease the [[mysterious]] forces that were [[thought]] to be responsible for good [[luck]], good [[weather]], good [[health]] and general well being. This [[idea]] has existed to the present day in the [[persistent]] [[belief]] that worship can only be undertaken in [[solitude]] or even in a particular setting, such as a [[church]], [[temple]], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosque mosque], and even in particular position, such as the kneeling position, or the [[prostrate]] position. It is unfortunate that this pigeon holing of the notion of [[worship]] has occurred, but my personal [[understanding]] of worship is that it [[encompasses]] all activities in which one extends one's link to [[the Father]] through the [[Thought Adjuster]] which has been achieved through [[conscious]] [[effort]] and [[freewill]] decision to another being or other beings in an active fashion. Does that answer your question?

A: Well, [[worship]] in the sense of [[doing the will of the Father]] is [[service]]. As far as a third party being involved, when you [[interact]] in a social way with another being, in a loving and serving way, you extend the [[connection]] between yourself and [[God]] to that third party. Yes, that is somewhat [[different]] from a [[private]] session with [[the Father]], but it is only a difference in [[degree]]. If one were to spend one's life in [[solitude]] [[reading]] spiritual materials and attempting through the [[Thought Adjuster]] to contact [[the Father]], the spiritual life would be incomplete and unfulfilled because the [[connection]] to other beings is a vital part of a proper [[worship]] [[existence]]. Much [[confusion]] about worship arises from [[ancient]] times in the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_III._The_History_of_Urantia history of man on Urantia] when [[superstitions]] and fear lead to the enactment of [[ritual]] behaviors designed to appease the [[mysterious]] forces that were [[thought]] to be responsible for good [[luck]], good [[weather]], good [[health]] and general well being. This [[idea]] has existed to the present day in the [[persistent]] [[belief]] that worship can only be undertaken in [[solitude]] or even in a particular setting, such as a [[church]], [[temple]], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosque mosque], and even in particular position, such as the kneeling position, or the [[prostrate]] position. It is unfortunate that this pigeon holing of the notion of [[worship]] has occurred, but my personal [[understanding]] of worship is that it [[encompasses]] all activities in which one extends one's link to [[the Father]] through the [[Thought Adjuster]] which has been achieved through [[conscious]] [[effort]] and [[freewill]] decision to another being or other beings in an active fashion. Does that answer your question?

S: Yes, it does. I think a lot of this is based on a [[frame of reference]] whence we take the [[meaning]] of [[worship]] as we apply it to ourselves. I think ([[T/R]]), whose [[mind]] you are using or speaking from, has that ideational [[confusion]] between [[worship]] and [[service]]. I was never related to a [[church]] when I was a child so I don't relate worship to any specific [[temple]] or any [[church]] or any archaic concept of worship. I just think worship as I get is straight from the [[Urantia book]] and from [[Jesus]]' example. He did [[service]] with others and for others, but He also took time to go out on His own to be by Himself so that He could talk to [[the Father]]. I think it's very [[good]] for you to inform people that [[worship]] can be accomplished not just by oneself but also in doing [[service]]. I just wanted to bring the point up because I talk to some people who would just worship with others but not by themselves. In other [[words]], they wouldn't go out by themselves to be [[alone]] with [[God]]. I think that both service and [[worship]] is [[necessary]] and not one at the [[sacrifice]] of the other.

S: Yes, it does. I think a lot of this is based on a [[frame of reference]] whence we take the [[meaning]] of [[worship]] as we apply it to ourselves. I think ([[T/R]]), whose [[mind]] you are using or speaking from, has that ideational [[confusion]] between [[worship]] and [[service]]. I was never related to a [[church]] when I was a child so I don't relate worship to any specific [[temple]] or any [[church]] or any archaic concept of worship. I just think worship as I get is straight from the [[Urantia book]] and from [[Jesus]]' example. He did [[service]] with others and for others, but He also took time to go out on His own to be by Himself so that He could talk to [[the Father]]. I think it's very [[good]] for you to inform people that [[worship]] can be accomplished not just by oneself but also in doing [[service]]. I just wanted to bring the point up because I talk to some people who would just worship with others but not by themselves. In other [[words]], they wouldn't go out by themselves to be [[alone]] with [[God]]. I think that both service and [[worship]] is [[necessary]] and not one at the [[sacrifice]] of the other.

R: Certainly.

R: Certainly.

S2: I have located a page in the [[Urantia book]] in a paper on [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus the life of Jesus], on [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=143:7_Teachings_About_Prayer_and_Worship page 1616], teachings about [[career]] and [[worship]]. It says at the evening conferences on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Gerizim Mt Gerizim] Jesus taught many great [[truths]] and in particular He laid [[emphasis]] on the following: He said that [[worship]], [[contemplation]] of the [[spiritual]], must alternate with [[service]], contact with [[material]] [[reality]]. And it goes on to say that work should alternate with [[play]]. Religion should be [[balanced]] by [[humor]]. Jumping a few lines again to say, another [[distinction]], worship is the [[technique]] of looking to the One for the [[inspiration]] of [[service]] to the many. So that sentence right there, to me, points out the [[interrelatedness]] of [[worship]] and [[service]]. They're [[separate]] in terms of defining them for our human minds, but they're absolutely [[connected]] things.

S2: I have located a page in the [[Urantia book]] in a paper on [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus the life of Jesus], on [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=143:7_Teachings_About_Prayer_and_Worship page 1616], teachings about [[career]] and [[worship]]. It says at the evening conferences on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Gerizim Mt Gerizim] Jesus taught many great [[truths]] and in particular He laid [[emphasis]] on the following: He said that [[worship]], [[contemplation]] of the [[spiritual]], must alternate with [[service]], contact with [[material]] [[reality]]. And it goes on to say that work should alternate with [[play]]. Religion should be [[balanced]] by [[humor]]. Jumping a few lines again to say, another [[distinction]], worship is the [[technique]] of looking to the One for the [[inspiration]] of [[service]] to the many. So that sentence right there, to me, points out the [[interrelatedness]] of [[worship]] and [[service]]. They're [[separate]] in terms of defining them for our human minds, but they're absolutely [[connected]] things.

S3: They're made of the same stuff, but they're [[expressed]] differently.

S3: They're made of the same stuff, but they're [[expressed]] differently.

S: We finally got it. Thank you, Rayson. (08/28/93)  

S: We finally got it. Thank you, Rayson. (08/28/93)  

:'''See also'''

:'''See also'''

*[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1993-01-01-Rayson_%26_Friends,_Vol._2,_Part_4#Work.2C_Worship WORK ex rel Worship] (11/21/93)  

*[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1993-01-01-Rayson_%26_Friends,_Vol._2,_Part_4#Work.2C_Worship WORK ex rel Worship] (11/21/93)  

*[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1993-01-01-Rayson_%26_Friends,_Vol._2,_Part_4#Work.2C_Worship.2C_Service WORK ex rel Worship and Service] (10/08/93)

*[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1993-01-01-Rayson_%26_Friends,_Vol._2,_Part_4#Work.2C_Worship.2C_Service WORK ex rel Worship and Service] (10/08/93)

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