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| A. I do not necessarily [[perceive]] it to be [[antagonistic]], for that which you call [[conscience]], as I [[perceive]], is the [[desire]] within your being to do what is right. Your [[actions]] do not always follow the [[conscience]], but the conscience does try in your [[mind]] to give you a [[perspective]] of [[reality]] and better enable you to [[discern]] the [[difference]] between [[good]] and [[evil]]. It acts as somewhat of a bridge, if you will, between the [[animal]] and [[Thought Adjuster|the spirit]] in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developmental_psychology early human development]. | | A. I do not necessarily [[perceive]] it to be [[antagonistic]], for that which you call [[conscience]], as I [[perceive]], is the [[desire]] within your being to do what is right. Your [[actions]] do not always follow the [[conscience]], but the conscience does try in your [[mind]] to give you a [[perspective]] of [[reality]] and better enable you to [[discern]] the [[difference]] between [[good]] and [[evil]]. It acts as somewhat of a bridge, if you will, between the [[animal]] and [[Thought Adjuster|the spirit]] in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developmental_psychology early human development]. |
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− | Q. WELMEK, there are 28 [[illustrations]] of human [[philosophy]] as a way of [[understanding]] [[analogous]] [[morontia mota]] [[meanings]] in the [[Urantia Book]]. [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_48#48:7._MORONTIA_MOTA Number 7 of those 28 illustrations] is as follows: "[[Blind]] and unforeseen [[accidents]] do not occur in the [[cosmos]]. Neither do the celestial beings assist the lower being who refuses to [[act]] upon his [[light]] of [[truth]]." Can you [[clarify]] that for us? | + | Q. WELMEK, there are 28 [[illustrations]] of human [[philosophy]] as a way of [[understanding]] [[analogous]] [[morontia mota]] [[meanings]] in the [[Urantia Book]]. [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_48#48:7._MORONTIA_MOTA Number 7 of those 28 illustrations] is as follows: "[[Blind]] and unforeseen [[accidents]] do not occur in the [[cosmos]]. Neither do the celestial beings assist the lower being who refuses to [[act]] upon his [[light]] of [[truth]]." Can you [[clarify]] that for us? |
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− | A. There is much in that [[statement]]. First, regarding [[accidents]] in the [[cosmos]], in the greater scheme of things, indeed there is [[organization]]. There is an order to [[things]]. I [[realize]] at times this is [[difficult]] for you to [[understand]], for [[your planet]] is so disordered. However, once you leave this world, you will [[immediately]] [[perceive]] a substantial [[difference]] in the way things are and we [[hope]] to bring about on [[your planet]]. There are, however, [[accidents]] in time on a smaller [[scale]] such as when one may be [[injured]] by the blow of a hammer when trying to strike a nail. For it is surely not, I would [[hope]], your [[intention]] to hit yourself. This is indeed an [[accident]]. There are many [[illustrations]] of this which I'm sure you're all aware of. Secondly, most gathered this evening are not yet [[aware]] of the [[faith]] which they really have. This is a [[process]] which you will become [[conscious]] of if you [[practice]] that which I have asked you to do. [[The Father]] is desirous of all of His [[children]] to come to Him. This [[command]] of "Be perfect as I am perfect."[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1:0_The_Universal_Father] is held [[universally]], yet none of us have [[achieved]] [[perfection]]. We are asked to try. Each day do the best that you can. If you are unwilling to [[participate]] in this [[plan]], then you retard yourself, you keep yourself away from that which is real, important, and when your inside [[grows]], you will [[retrospect]] actually and see your [[duty]]. [[The Father]] will not give to one and continue to give unless that [[individual]] is willing to [[receive]] and not only receive but [[act]] upon what they have been given. There is deeper [[insight]] into this [[statement]] which would not make a great deal of sense to you now, for your [[experience]] is so [[limited]]. Know that this [[mota]] in [[Urantia Text|the book]] is a very preliminary philosophical [[understanding]] of that which you must master in order to [[achieve]] even [[fusion]]. | + | A. There is much in that [[statement]]. First, regarding [[accidents]] in the [[cosmos]], in the greater scheme of things, indeed there is [[organization]]. There is an order to [[things]]. I [[realize]] at times this is [[difficult]] for you to [[understand]], for [[your planet]] is so disordered. However, once you leave this world, you will [[immediately]] [[perceive]] a substantial [[difference]] in the way things are and we [[hope]] to bring about on [[your planet]]. There are, however, [[accidents]] in time on a smaller [[scale]] such as when one may be [[injured]] by the blow of a hammer when trying to strike a nail. For it is surely not, I would [[hope]], your [[intention]] to hit yourself. This is indeed an [[accident]]. There are many [[illustrations]] of this which I'm sure you're all aware of. Secondly, most gathered this evening are not yet [[aware]] of the [[faith]] which they really have. This is a [[process]] which you will become [[conscious]] of if you [[practice]] that which I have asked you to do. [[The Father]] is desirous of all of His [[children]] to come to Him. This [[command]] of "Be perfect as I am perfect."[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1:0_The_Universal_Father] is held [[universally]], yet none of us have [[achieved]] [[perfection]]. We are asked to try. Each day do the best that you can. If you are unwilling to [[participate]] in this [[plan]], then you retard yourself, you keep yourself away from that which is real, important, and when your inside [[grows]], you will [[retrospect]] actually and see your [[duty]]. [[The Father]] will not give to one and continue to give unless that [[individual]] is willing to [[receive]] and not only receive but [[act]] upon what they have been given. There is deeper [[insight]] into this [[statement]] which would not make a great deal of sense to you now, for your [[experience]] is so [[limited]]. Know that this [[mota]] in [[Urantia Text|the book]] is a very preliminary philosophical [[understanding]] of that which you must master in order to [[achieve]] even [[fusion]]. |
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− | Q. WELMEK, in [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_110 the paper] you asked us to [[read]] this week, it [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=110:3_Co-Operation_With_the_Adjuster listed 4 ways] to [[facilitate]] [[contact]] with our [[Adjuster]]; and one was to develop "an intelligent and wise affection for each of your fellow mortals." What do they mean by "[[intelligent]]" and "[[wise]]"? | + | Q. WELMEK, in [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_110 the paper] you asked us to [[read]] this week, it [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=110:3_Co-Operation_With_the_Adjuster listed 4 ways] to [[facilitate]] [[contact]] with our [[Adjuster]]; and one was to develop "an intelligent and wise affection for each of your fellow mortals." What do they mean by "[[intelligent]]" and "[[wise]]"? |
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− | WELMEK, I was [[reading]] the other day toward the back of [[Urantia Text|the book]] on page l948 and it really kind of brought all this out very [[clearly]] to me, or at least where I was at the [[point]] where I am now, about loving one another, on page l948 or 1949, at [[Paper 179 - The Last Supper|the last supper]], when [[Jesus]] was talking to the [[apostles]] and he talked about the [[Spirit of Truth]]. Hold on, let me find where I was [[reading]], I had it marked....you took me by [[surprise]]..(group [[laughter]]) Oh, it's "[[180:2 The Vine and the Branches|The Vine and the Branches]]" on page l945. It just seemed so [[clear]] at the time, it still does..it's something I felt I could [[immediately]] apply to my life about loving one another. It says, "As the Father has love me, so have I loved you. Live in my love even as I live in the Father's love. If you do as I have taught you, you shall abide in my love even as I have kept the Father's word and evermore abide in his love." ([http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=180:2_The_Vine_and_the_Branches 180:2.2]) Up above that, about to the middle of that first section, it says, "If you would share [[the Master]]'s [[joy]], you must [[share]] his [[love]]. And to share his love means that you have shared his [[service]]."...okay, that's not it either. Hold on...no that's not it.. You really caught me by [[surprise]], | + | WELMEK, I was [[reading]] the other day toward the back of [[Urantia Text|the book]] on page l948 and it really kind of brought all this out very [[clearly]] to me, or at least where I was at the [[point]] where I am now, about loving one another, on page l948 or 1949, at [[Paper 179 - The Last Supper|the last supper]], when [[Jesus]] was talking to the [[apostles]] and he talked about the [[Spirit of Truth]]. Hold on, let me find where I was [[reading]], I had it marked....you took me by [[surprise]]..(group [[laughter]]) Oh, it's "[[180:2 The Vine and the Branches|The Vine and the Branches]]" on page l945. It just seemed so [[clear]] at the time, it still does..it's something I felt I could [[immediately]] apply to my life about loving one another. It says, "As the Father has love me, so have I loved you. Live in my love even as I live in the Father's love. If you do as I have taught you, you shall abide in my love even as I have kept the Father's word and evermore abide in his love." ([https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=180:2_The_Vine_and_the_Branches 180:2.2]) Up above that, about to the middle of that first section, it says, "If you would share [[the Master]]'s [[joy]], you must [[share]] his [[love]]. And to share his love means that you have shared his [[service]]."...okay, that's not it either. Hold on...no that's not it.. You really caught me by [[surprise]], |
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| WELMEK. "The [[impulse]] of [[friendship]] [[transcends]] all [[convictions]] of [[duty]], and the [[service]] of a friend for a friend can never be called [[sacrifice]]. [[The Master]] has taught the [[apostles]] that they are the [[sons of God]]. He has called them brethren, and now, before he leaves, he calls them his [[friends]]." Well, I can't find it. | | WELMEK. "The [[impulse]] of [[friendship]] [[transcends]] all [[convictions]] of [[duty]], and the [[service]] of a friend for a friend can never be called [[sacrifice]]. [[The Master]] has taught the [[apostles]] that they are the [[sons of God]]. He has called them brethren, and now, before he leaves, he calls them his [[friends]]." Well, I can't find it. |
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− | Q. Is it just the [[Thought Adjuster]]? [[Paper 110|The paper]] talks about the [[Thought Adjuster]] working to build up our [[spiritual]] [[counterpart]] ([http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=110:2 110:2.3])? | + | Q. Is it just the [[Thought Adjuster]]? [[Paper 110|The paper]] talks about the [[Thought Adjuster]] working to build up our [[spiritual]] [[counterpart]] ([https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=110:2 110:2.3])? |
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| A. This is, as Herb said, our first time here. I [[think]] we've both been on a very long [[spiritual]] [[journey]]. Coming here has certainly been [[insightful]]. For whatever reason, we needed it; and I'm very [[grateful]]. But as a new person in [[this mission]], I feel very [[naive]]; and I'm wondering if you would suggest what someone such as myself who was just recently introduced to this type of teaching, where we should start? | | A. This is, as Herb said, our first time here. I [[think]] we've both been on a very long [[spiritual]] [[journey]]. Coming here has certainly been [[insightful]]. For whatever reason, we needed it; and I'm very [[grateful]]. But as a new person in [[this mission]], I feel very [[naive]]; and I'm wondering if you would suggest what someone such as myself who was just recently introduced to this type of teaching, where we should start? |
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− | A. You have already started. You began years ago when you [[desired]] to know more of Him. For now, I would [[encourage]] you to [[read]] [[Team|the transcripts]] that have been given to [[Tallahassee TeaM|this group]] already. I [[encourage]] you to [[read]] the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus teachings of Jesus] in the [[Urantia Book]]; and when you are [[comfortable]] I would [[encourage]] an [[opportunity]] to meet with you [[individually]] so that I may further give you [[personal]] instruction. I would like to suggest that coming here this evening, for you, was no [[accident]]. There are many who [[work]] with me, before I was here and now that I am, who constantly strive to bring you to a greater [[understanding]] of [[the Father]]. [[Accept]] this. Do not necessarily try to always [[understand]] it. Just [[accept]] it, and learn from each [[experience]]. | + | A. You have already started. You began years ago when you [[desired]] to know more of Him. For now, I would [[encourage]] you to [[read]] [[Team|the transcripts]] that have been given to [[Tallahassee TeaM|this group]] already. I [[encourage]] you to [[read]] the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus teachings of Jesus] in the [[Urantia Book]]; and when you are [[comfortable]] I would [[encourage]] an [[opportunity]] to meet with you [[individually]] so that I may further give you [[personal]] instruction. I would like to suggest that coming here this evening, for you, was no [[accident]]. There are many who [[work]] with me, before I was here and now that I am, who constantly strive to bring you to a greater [[understanding]] of [[the Father]]. [[Accept]] this. Do not necessarily try to always [[understand]] it. Just [[accept]] it, and learn from each [[experience]]. |
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| WELMEK: I wish to [[conclude]] this [[communication]] for this evening. I hope you found it [[enlightening]]. I [[hope]] you find it [[stimulating]] and will ask for [[clarification]] on some questions next time. | | WELMEK: I wish to [[conclude]] this [[communication]] for this evening. I hope you found it [[enlightening]]. I [[hope]] you find it [[stimulating]] and will ask for [[clarification]] on some questions next time. |