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Vicki:  Thank you, MONJORONSON, and what you are engaging us in when you ask us to become involved in mapping a sustainable future is strategic thinking that is in [[essence]] strategic planning.  Is that correct?

Vicki:  Thank you, MONJORONSON, and what you are engaging us in when you ask us to become involved in mapping a sustainable future is strategic thinking that is in [[essence]] strategic planning.  Is that correct?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Most definitely.  The [[Most Highs]] operate on the strategic level all the time.  They operate in the “affairs of mankind,”[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Book_of_Daniel#Chapter_4] [[meaning]] that they operate in the venue of global [[governments]], national governments, of huge planning commissions, and so on.  They [[work]] with those [[individuals]] who can have an [[affect]] upon the outcome of large [[movements]] of [[humanity]]’s [[thinking]] and [[culture]].  The strategist truly who lays out the grand plans for the [[healing]] of your world—that was Christ [[Michael]].  Christ Michael simply did not sit in [[Salvington]] and say to those below him in the [[hierarchy]], “Heal this”—he simply did not!  He was there with the [[Most Highs]], with those in [[Uversa]], and those in [[Edentia]] and [[Norlatiadek]].  He had all of those on board, [[sharing]] his [[thoughts]], his plans, his [[desires]], asking for contribution.  

MONJORONSON:  Most definitely.  The [[Most Highs]] operate on the strategic level all the time.  They operate in the “affairs of mankind,”[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Book_of_Daniel#Chapter_4] [[meaning]] that they operate in the venue of global [[governments]], national governments, of huge planning commissions, and so on.  They [[work]] with those [[individuals]] who can have an [[affect]] upon the outcome of large [[movements]] of [[humanity]]’s [[thinking]] and [[culture]].  The strategist truly who lays out the grand plans for the [[healing]] of your world—that was Christ [[Michael]].  Christ Michael simply did not sit in [[Salvington]] and say to those below him in the [[hierarchy]], “Heal this”—he simply did not!  He was there with the [[Most Highs]], with those in [[Uversa]], and those in [[Edentia]] and [[Norlatiadek]].  He had all of those on board, [[sharing]] his [[thoughts]], his plans, his [[desires]], asking for contribution.  

   

   

The workings of managing a [[local universe]] are not much [[different]] than a very beneficent [[administration]] of a global [[government]] or corporation.  It requires [[coordination]], [[personal]] contact, joining of [[minds]], seeking those [[opinions]] which are differing, and mapping out, as you say, alternatives to a [[course]] of [[action]], as the [[reality]] in these four [[dimensions]] of your world begin to unfold.  In this grand strategy of [[healing]] the [[planets]] that were in [[Isolation|quarantine]], particularly in the most difficult planets—this and two others—it requires a nimble manager and tactician to [[work]] with [[events]] as they [[unfold]].  The [[human]] [[species]] of [[Urantia]] is wildly unpredictable and self-serving, even in the face of [[logical]] and [[rational]] outcomes, which one would [[choose]].  It would seem that many times [[leaders]] and nations of your world would rather shoot themselves in the foot than to say, “yes” to their [[opposition]].  So we have a [[difficult]] time moving ahead, as there is so many undercurrents and eddies in the [[good]] [[flow]] of the working order of [[administration]] on your world.  

The workings of managing a [[local universe]] are not much [[different]] than a very beneficent [[administration]] of a global [[government]] or corporation.  It requires [[coordination]], [[personal]] contact, joining of [[minds]], seeking those [[opinions]] which are differing, and mapping out, as you say, alternatives to a [[course]] of [[action]], as the [[reality]] in these four [[dimensions]] of your world begin to unfold.  In this grand strategy of [[healing]] the [[planets]] that were in [[Isolation|quarantine]], particularly in the most difficult planets—this and two others—it requires a nimble manager and tactician to [[work]] with [[events]] as they [[unfold]].  The [[human]] [[species]] of [[Urantia]] is wildly unpredictable and self-serving, even in the face of [[logical]] and [[rational]] outcomes, which one would [[choose]].  It would seem that many times [[leaders]] and nations of your world would rather shoot themselves in the foot than to say, “yes” to their [[opposition]].  So we have a [[difficult]] time moving ahead, as there is so many undercurrents and eddies in the [[good]] [[flow]] of the working order of [[administration]] on your world.  

MONJORONSON:  You bring to the table, a very large subject.  (Laughter.)  I would begin by stating the saddest [[deaths]] of all:  And the saddest deaths of all are those where we see the individual dying within, where their [[spirit]], their esprit is dying, is going away.  They can be young; they may be old, but they have given up on life already, and they are hollow shells, [[automatons]] going about the [[business]] of the [[routine]] of daily life, yet on the inside they have no [[awareness]] of their [[thinking]]—great thinking or wrong thinking—they are simply going about the [[motions]].  These situations are extremely sad, where people lose [[hope]].  

MONJORONSON:  You bring to the table, a very large subject.  (Laughter.)  I would begin by stating the saddest [[deaths]] of all:  And the saddest deaths of all are those where we see the individual dying within, where their [[spirit]], their esprit is dying, is going away.  They can be young; they may be old, but they have given up on life already, and they are hollow shells, [[automatons]] going about the [[business]] of the [[routine]] of daily life, yet on the inside they have no [[awareness]] of their [[thinking]]—great thinking or wrong thinking—they are simply going about the [[motions]].  These situations are extremely sad, where people lose [[hope]].  

   

   

We do not [[understand]] how it is that people can totally reject the [[spiritual]] life, but on the other hand, we can see that it is done [[actively]], it is done in [[total]] violation of the [[God]]/[[personal]] [[relationship]].  There is actually some vitality to that, for when these [[individuals]] cross over and are on the [[mansion worlds]], they will see the wrongness of their [[thinking]], and either continue to adhere to that and become part of those who have vanished[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_2#2:3._JUSTICE_AND_RIGHTEOUSNESS], as [though] they were never here, and there are those who will see this as an [[opportunity]] to begin anew, and do so with the same fervent, energized [[state]] of [[being]].  Those of you who have mental aberrations, of [[depression]], of latent psychoses—those with mental aberrations who are unable to manage their [[thinking]]—this is most sad; were the [[angels]] to cry, they would cry over this for sure.  

We do not [[understand]] how it is that people can totally reject the [[spiritual]] life, but on the other hand, we can see that it is done [[actively]], it is done in [[total]] violation of the [[God]]/[[personal]] [[relationship]].  There is actually some vitality to that, for when these [[individuals]] cross over and are on the [[mansion worlds]], they will see the wrongness of their [[thinking]], and either continue to adhere to that and become part of those who have vanished[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_2#2:3._JUSTICE_AND_RIGHTEOUSNESS], as [though] they were never here, and there are those who will see this as an [[opportunity]] to begin anew, and do so with the same fervent, energized [[state]] of [[being]].  Those of you who have mental aberrations, of [[depression]], of latent psychoses—those with mental aberrations who are unable to manage their [[thinking]]—this is most sad; were the [[angels]] to cry, they would cry over this for sure.  

   

   

But you speak about the dissolution of [[death]], and so the next saddest [[state]] that I will gauge is the premature passing of one who has so much [[potential]] to know [[God]] in this lifetime, whether they are in their infancy, their childhood, pre-adolescence, adolescence, early adulthood, adulthood, or the elderly.  It is very sad to see those people with grand [[minds]], who have the [[capacity]] to know God [[intimately]], and who do not, who pass prematurely from this acquaintanceship, from acknowledging this [[wonderful]] [[eternal]] handshake, between [[God]] within them, and their own [[conscious]] mind.  These lives are not wasted, and do not mourn about that, for there is an avenue for [[growth]] that is always granted to those who cross over, who wish to continue.  This truly is a very [[conscious]] [[existential]] [[decision]] that is made by everyone who has a sentient [[mind]], who is invested by [[God]], the [[Thought Adjuster]][http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_40#40:7._FATHER-FUSED_MORTALS], or [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_40#40:8._SON-FUSED_MORTALS Son Spirit], or the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_40#40:9._SPIRIT-FUSED_MORTALS Infinite Spirit].  

But you speak about the dissolution of [[death]], and so the next saddest [[state]] that I will gauge is the premature passing of one who has so much [[potential]] to know [[God]] in this lifetime, whether they are in their infancy, their childhood, pre-adolescence, adolescence, early adulthood, adulthood, or the elderly.  It is very sad to see those people with grand [[minds]], who have the [[capacity]] to know God [[intimately]], and who do not, who pass prematurely from this acquaintanceship, from acknowledging this [[wonderful]] [[eternal]] handshake, between [[God]] within them, and their own [[conscious]] mind.  These lives are not wasted, and do not mourn about that, for there is an avenue for [[growth]] that is always granted to those who cross over, who wish to continue.  This truly is a very [[conscious]] [[existential]] [[decision]] that is made by everyone who has a sentient [[mind]], who is invested by [[God]], the [[Thought Adjuster]][https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_40#40:7._FATHER-FUSED_MORTALS], or [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_40#40:8._SON-FUSED_MORTALS Son Spirit], or the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_40#40:9._SPIRIT-FUSED_MORTALS Infinite Spirit].  

   

   

*[[Preparation]] for the approach of [[death]]

*[[Preparation]] for the approach of [[death]]

Vicki:  I think we’ve addressed the [[psychological]] needs for the dying.  The one that is standing out for me now is helping people manage the ‘[[physical]] [[pain]] of dying.’  So I’m [[wondering]] when you talk about us detaching our [[spirit]], or [[communicating]] with their [[spirit]], in doing that, are we capable of helping them [[transcend]] [[physical]] [[pain]]?

Vicki:  I think we’ve addressed the [[psychological]] needs for the dying.  The one that is standing out for me now is helping people manage the ‘[[physical]] [[pain]] of dying.’  So I’m [[wondering]] when you talk about us detaching our [[spirit]], or [[communicating]] with their [[spirit]], in doing that, are we capable of helping them [[transcend]] [[physical]] [[pain]]?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes.  Too often, the medications that are given deaden the [[pain]] [[process]], from the nerves to the [[brain]].  What would be much more advantageous is to [[assist]] the [[individual]] to engage a [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Transpersonal transpersonal experience] of an altered [[state]] of [[consciousness]], rather than the dead-numb of a [[brain]] that has been dosed with heroin or morphine to such a great extent.  The [[person]] then is virtually [[breathing]], but dead as a [[spirit]].  The [[option]] of assisting the individual in having an altered state of [[consciousness]], a [[spiritual]] [[experience]], assists them to bypass the [[pain]] episode and to engage the higher realms of [[spirit]] and the [[body]] and the [[mind]].  This would be new territory for your [[medical]] [[professionals]]; it is almost [[shamanistic]] in many ways, but it is helpful to the [[mind]] to grasp the altered states of [[consciousness]] that are precursors to [[death]] and the cessation of [[mind]] [[activity]], and avail themselves to the ascendance of the [[spirit]] towards its [[career]] in the [[mansion worlds]].

MONJORONSON:  Yes.  Too often, the medications that are given deaden the [[pain]] [[process]], from the nerves to the [[brain]].  What would be much more advantageous is to [[assist]] the [[individual]] to engage a [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Transpersonal transpersonal experience] of an altered [[state]] of [[consciousness]], rather than the dead-numb of a [[brain]] that has been dosed with heroin or morphine to such a great extent.  The [[person]] then is virtually [[breathing]], but dead as a [[spirit]].  The [[option]] of assisting the individual in having an altered state of [[consciousness]], a [[spiritual]] [[experience]], assists them to bypass the [[pain]] episode and to engage the higher realms of [[spirit]] and the [[body]] and the [[mind]].  This would be new territory for your [[medical]] [[professionals]]; it is almost [[shamanistic]] in many ways, but it is helpful to the [[mind]] to grasp the altered states of [[consciousness]] that are precursors to [[death]] and the cessation of [[mind]] [[activity]], and avail themselves to the ascendance of the [[spirit]] towards its [[career]] in the [[mansion worlds]].

   

   

Vicki:  I believe that message was hugely important to us.  And so now, I’d like to engage you in some [[conversation]] about how other [[cultures]] view the dying [[process]] and its [[practical]] use for all of us.  This whole [[topic]] is a delicate one, because there is also a tremendous variation in [[cultures]], as to their [[beliefs]], [[rituals]] and [[practices]].  Some [[rituals]] and [[beliefs]], from Eastern civilizations, are now beginning to merge into the practices of Western cultures and they may offer us quite a bit of [[insight]].  I want to talk about one in particular.

Vicki:  I believe that message was hugely important to us.  And so now, I’d like to engage you in some [[conversation]] about how other [[cultures]] view the dying [[process]] and its [[practical]] use for all of us.  This whole [[topic]] is a delicate one, because there is also a tremendous variation in [[cultures]], as to their [[beliefs]], [[rituals]] and [[practices]].  Some [[rituals]] and [[beliefs]], from Eastern civilizations, are now beginning to merge into the practices of Western cultures and they may offer us quite a bit of [[insight]].  I want to talk about one in particular.

[Daniel: (Also laughing now) It’s him!]

[Daniel: (Also laughing now) It’s him!]

   

   

This is MONJORONSON:  I [[thought]] you would never get around to asking this question!  Yes, this is a most interesting [[topic]], and as one that has puzzled many, many people for centuries.  What you are [[experiencing]] is [[fundamentally]] the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_107#107:2._CLASSIFICATION_OF_ADJUSTERS prior experiences] of your [[Thought Adjuster]].  It has tremendous [[access]] to the annals, the recordings of other [[personalities]] that it has experienced, both directly and vicariously.  Thought Adjusters are most capable, and are vastly underestimated in their [[capacity]] to [[assist]] you to [[grow]], to [[learn]], to bypass many of the [[difficult]] lessons of life, if you would only engage your [[Thought Adjuster]] much more [[consciously]], deliberately and [[intentionally]].

This is MONJORONSON:  I [[thought]] you would never get around to asking this question!  Yes, this is a most interesting [[topic]], and as one that has puzzled many, many people for centuries.  What you are [[experiencing]] is [[fundamentally]] the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_107#107:2._CLASSIFICATION_OF_ADJUSTERS prior experiences] of your [[Thought Adjuster]].  It has tremendous [[access]] to the annals, the recordings of other [[personalities]] that it has experienced, both directly and vicariously.  Thought Adjusters are most capable, and are vastly underestimated in their [[capacity]] to [[assist]] you to [[grow]], to [[learn]], to bypass many of the [[difficult]] lessons of life, if you would only engage your [[Thought Adjuster]] much more [[consciously]], deliberately and [[intentionally]].

   

   

An “old soul” is one who has had many past experiences; one who recalls the [[wisdom]] and [[experience]] of a past life.

An “old soul” is one who has had many past experiences; one who recalls the [[wisdom]] and [[experience]] of a past life.