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| Today I would like to talk with you about [[love]], in particular, that love which you [[understand]] as a [[human]] [[frame of reference]], but in the discussion of love in any sense, I would be derelict in my [[duties]] if I were to in any way disregard the level of love which springs from [[the Source|the divine Source]] of all love. And so, let us commence. | | Today I would like to talk with you about [[love]], in particular, that love which you [[understand]] as a [[human]] [[frame of reference]], but in the discussion of love in any sense, I would be derelict in my [[duties]] if I were to in any way disregard the level of love which springs from [[the Source|the divine Source]] of all love. And so, let us commence. |
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− | The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholicism Catholic religion] enjoys depicting [[Jesus]] with a pronounced [[heart]], indeed, a valentine upon his chest, radiating the [[passion]] for which he lived and died -- the divine love which is from our Source, and to which you all [[aspire]], inasmuch as this divine love is that for which you [[hunger]]. But the human [[heart]], which also seeks to know and experience love, is [[fallible]] ~ and thus what you perceive as love may be merely the personal will-seeking nature of the human. | + | The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholicism Catholic religion] enjoys depicting [[Jesus]] with a pronounced [[heart]], indeed, a valentine upon his chest, radiating the [[passion]] for which he lived and died -- the divine love which is from our Source, and to which you all [[aspire]], inasmuch as this divine love is that for which you [[hunger]]. But the human [[heart]], which also seeks to know and experience love, is [[fallible]] ~ and thus what you perceive as love may be merely the personal will-seeking nature of the human. |
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| The [[scriptures]] point out that the human heart is [[deceptive]], and so those who are fed scripture will take this to mean they cannot [[trust]] their own [[perception]] of [[love]] for it is fallible ~ so fallible, in fact, it may well be regarded as, rather, prideful. This is part of the [[confusion]] you experience here in terms of what love is. | | The [[scriptures]] point out that the human heart is [[deceptive]], and so those who are fed scripture will take this to mean they cannot [[trust]] their own [[perception]] of [[love]] for it is fallible ~ so fallible, in fact, it may well be regarded as, rather, prideful. This is part of the [[confusion]] you experience here in terms of what love is. |
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| And what about love is there that leads you on, often into trouble, and yet you [[persist]] in seeking its [[manifestation]] in your own being? | | And what about love is there that leads you on, often into trouble, and yet you [[persist]] in seeking its [[manifestation]] in your own being? |
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− | The key to comprehending the nature of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_heart Christed heart], as [[compared]] to the human heart is to be found in the fact of rebirth. This [[surrendering]] of the [[human]] will to the [[divine]] will is the key to [[understanding]] the nature of your own heart. | + | The key to comprehending the nature of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_heart Christed heart], as [[compared]] to the human heart is to be found in the fact of rebirth. This [[surrendering]] of the [[human]] will to the [[divine]] will is the key to [[understanding]] the nature of your own heart. |
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| And, while [[spiritual]] rebirth may be your God-given [[inheritance]], it is also true that for you to advance in [[the kingdom]], it is required that you [[choose]] which way to go whenever the [[option]] is put before you to choose to do the divine will or the human will. | | And, while [[spiritual]] rebirth may be your God-given [[inheritance]], it is also true that for you to advance in [[the kingdom]], it is required that you [[choose]] which way to go whenever the [[option]] is put before you to choose to do the divine will or the human will. |
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| The [[challenge]] for you individually is to ascertain the heart that is ruling your [[thinking]] at any given moment, for in this phase of [[Correcting Time]], you will be consistently and continually [[modifying]] and changing the [[reference]] point of your heart, depending upon how well you have devoted yourself to the divine heart, as [[compared]] to the human heart. | | The [[challenge]] for you individually is to ascertain the heart that is ruling your [[thinking]] at any given moment, for in this phase of [[Correcting Time]], you will be consistently and continually [[modifying]] and changing the [[reference]] point of your heart, depending upon how well you have devoted yourself to the divine heart, as [[compared]] to the human heart. |
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− | I will take you to the mind of a child, who says, “But I want it. Why can’t I have it? There’s nothing wrong with me having it.” And this child is genuine and [[sincere]]. From that childlike [[perspective]] it would be [[cruel]] to deprive her of that which her heart yearns for, be it a doll, an opportunity to stay up past bedtime, a visit to a favorite relative or to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneyland Disneyland]. Whatever this child yearns for and is sincere about, she puts it forth in a plaintive note that would leave a [[parent]] to wonder why, indeed, would the child not be given its heart’s [[desire]]. | + | I will take you to the mind of a child, who says, “But I want it. Why can’t I have it? There’s nothing wrong with me having it.” And this child is genuine and [[sincere]]. From that childlike [[perspective]] it would be [[cruel]] to deprive her of that which her heart yearns for, be it a doll, an opportunity to stay up past bedtime, a visit to a favorite relative or to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneyland Disneyland]. Whatever this child yearns for and is sincere about, she puts it forth in a plaintive note that would leave a [[parent]] to wonder why, indeed, would the child not be given its heart’s [[desire]]. |
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| One of the tests of the [[human]] [[experience]] is having the heart broken again and again, feeling [[disappointment]] because the heart’s desires were not met, were thwarted, were [[contradicted]]. And so even as an adult, even as an [[ascending son]] or daughter, it is possible for that childlike nature in you to wail and lament, “But why can’t I have it?” when the [[truth]] is, you have it all! What you are saying is, “I want to keep it. I want to [[control]] it. I want it to fulfil my idea of who I am. I want that other person to replete me ~ complete me,” as if that yearning was the same prayerful yearning you would utilize when you talk to God about what his will is for you. | | One of the tests of the [[human]] [[experience]] is having the heart broken again and again, feeling [[disappointment]] because the heart’s desires were not met, were thwarted, were [[contradicted]]. And so even as an adult, even as an [[ascending son]] or daughter, it is possible for that childlike nature in you to wail and lament, “But why can’t I have it?” when the [[truth]] is, you have it all! What you are saying is, “I want to keep it. I want to [[control]] it. I want it to fulfil my idea of who I am. I want that other person to replete me ~ complete me,” as if that yearning was the same prayerful yearning you would utilize when you talk to God about what his will is for you. |
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| Elena: Well, until I can phrase a better question, I will be [[quiet]], but I appreciated the help, you guys. | | Elena: Well, until I can phrase a better question, I will be [[quiet]], but I appreciated the help, you guys. |
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− | ANATOLIA: Therefore, the [[Universal Mind]] is a realm which we undertake as this is the one uniting [[force]] and the realm in which particular cultural [[experience]] indicates that this was the common ground, the inalienable right, the right to [[life]], [[liberty]], and pursuit of [[happiness]] the forefathers (not necessarily [[masculine]] preference intended) had in mind. For what is the battleground, per se, in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state separation of church and state] is, in fact, this area that the forefathers had cordoned off as a no-man’s land. Unaddressed, [[ambiguous]], and left to [[interpretation]]. | + | ANATOLIA: Therefore, the [[Universal Mind]] is a realm which we undertake as this is the one uniting [[force]] and the realm in which particular cultural [[experience]] indicates that this was the common ground, the inalienable right, the right to [[life]], [[liberty]], and pursuit of [[happiness]] the forefathers (not necessarily [[masculine]] preference intended) had in mind. For what is the battleground, per se, in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state separation of church and state] is, in fact, this area that the forefathers had cordoned off as a no-man’s land. Unaddressed, [[ambiguous]], and left to [[interpretation]]. |
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| There are [[scholarly]] minds that could address this from any number of [[viewpoints]]; nevertheless, I invite for our future [[discussion]], considerations that humanity has to deal with. The next level of evolutionary thrust forward lies within this area, for [[technology]] (as may already be apparent) can exceed one’s capability to appreciate, encounter and regulate its just pursuit as [[administration]]. | | There are [[scholarly]] minds that could address this from any number of [[viewpoints]]; nevertheless, I invite for our future [[discussion]], considerations that humanity has to deal with. The next level of evolutionary thrust forward lies within this area, for [[technology]] (as may already be apparent) can exceed one’s capability to appreciate, encounter and regulate its just pursuit as [[administration]]. |
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| Elena: I felt about five different things on that little kid route. “Why can’t I have it?” | | Elena: I felt about five different things on that little kid route. “Why can’t I have it?” |
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− | Thoroah: Well, he treats us more as though we were [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduate_school graduate students], and a lot of the things that he talks about are more [[universal]] in nature, for people who happen to read these things, because not everybody is at the same level. Some people know that they are beginners in this [[awareness]], new awareness. They are new to it, and so they’re at a level of understanding, and that’s basically all that level stuff is, is a level of understanding. | + | Thoroah: Well, he treats us more as though we were [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduate_school graduate students], and a lot of the things that he talks about are more [[universal]] in nature, for people who happen to read these things, because not everybody is at the same level. Some people know that they are beginners in this [[awareness]], new awareness. They are new to it, and so they’re at a level of understanding, and that’s basically all that level stuff is, is a level of understanding. |
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| We’re all at our own level of [[understanding]], and none of us are at the same level, and there is an [[eternity]] of understanding to gain, so our problem is, we [[speculate]] where we are on that level [[spectrum]]. We think, “Oh, I must be here” or maybe we think, “We’re great. We’re up here.” And we don’t know crap about where we are. | | We’re all at our own level of [[understanding]], and none of us are at the same level, and there is an [[eternity]] of understanding to gain, so our problem is, we [[speculate]] where we are on that level [[spectrum]]. We think, “Oh, I must be here” or maybe we think, “We’re great. We’re up here.” And we don’t know crap about where we are. |
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| Elena: Well, let’s get back to Tomas’ [[deceptive]] heart deal. What did you guys get out of Tomas’ deceptive thing? | | Elena: Well, let’s get back to Tomas’ [[deceptive]] heart deal. What did you guys get out of Tomas’ deceptive thing? |
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− | Thoroah: Well, the [[human]] [[heart]] is [[deceptive]]. That’s kind of what I was trying to tell my friend. I made the [[analogy]] that it was his mind’s heart. We [[confuse]] the heart. We confuse what the heart is. We have this picture of what the heart is sitting on our chest like a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentine%27s_Day valentine]. | + | Thoroah: Well, the [[human]] [[heart]] is [[deceptive]]. That’s kind of what I was trying to tell my friend. I made the [[analogy]] that it was his mind’s heart. We [[confuse]] the heart. We confuse what the heart is. We have this picture of what the heart is sitting on our chest like a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentine%27s_Day valentine]. |
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| Esmarelda: Tomas said that, at the very beginning, about the valentine. | | Esmarelda: Tomas said that, at the very beginning, about the valentine. |
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| Esmarelda: I don’t think so either. | | Esmarelda: I don’t think so either. |
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− | Men-O-Pah: I’m not so sure that any will be destroyed. And I wonder how God is going to deal with people like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein Saddam Hussein] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolph_Hitler Adolph Hitler] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini Benito Mussolini], and others of their ilk. That really boggles my mind. How is he going to deal with them? Of course, I don’t know. | + | Men-O-Pah: I’m not so sure that any will be destroyed. And I wonder how God is going to deal with people like [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein Saddam Hussein] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolph_Hitler Adolph Hitler] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini Benito Mussolini], and others of their ilk. That really boggles my mind. How is he going to deal with them? Of course, I don’t know. |
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| TOMAS: This is my time to come back in and rope you back into class. I can see we are [[wandering]] off into the fields of speculation and [[wonder]] -- which are encouraged in your social portion, for they have [[worth]] -- but we need to keep on track in terms of getting our message said so that we can get out of here and you can carry on about what you [[choose]] to speculate. | | TOMAS: This is my time to come back in and rope you back into class. I can see we are [[wandering]] off into the fields of speculation and [[wonder]] -- which are encouraged in your social portion, for they have [[worth]] -- but we need to keep on track in terms of getting our message said so that we can get out of here and you can carry on about what you [[choose]] to speculate. |