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Mary: I find it a little hard to converse people who are operating in this [[fear]] mode, and who are afraid of [[Satan]] and who profess to believe in Satan because of their personal [[experiences]] with [[77:7 Rebel Midwayers|evil spirits]]. I assume that you've witnessed some of our attempts to [[interface]] and minister with some people who are experiencing this. Do you have any comment on effective approaches? I always assume that [[you teachers]] are with us trying to help us with [[insight]], but while I've got you here verbally I would appreciate any [[advice]] or insight.
 
Mary: I find it a little hard to converse people who are operating in this [[fear]] mode, and who are afraid of [[Satan]] and who profess to believe in Satan because of their personal [[experiences]] with [[77:7 Rebel Midwayers|evil spirits]]. I assume that you've witnessed some of our attempts to [[interface]] and minister with some people who are experiencing this. Do you have any comment on effective approaches? I always assume that [[you teachers]] are with us trying to help us with [[insight]], but while I've got you here verbally I would appreciate any [[advice]] or insight.
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Elyon: When you in [[youth]], believed in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus Santa Claus], there were emotional experiences that were real, [[anticipation]], a sense that some benevolent being [[cared]] for you and would [[grace]] you. These are real [[experiences]] but the entity was not. Yours was the [[desire]] to alleviate one from the clutch of [[worry]] and fear of a malevolent being out to disrupt ones spiritual well being will not succeed in rational [[explanation]]. To release one from such an [[orientation]], you will succeed to them in your [[emotional]] response and [[reactions]] to events in your life, that being [[trust]] and [[love]]. [[Acceptance]] of Fathers' [[guidance]] above and beyond all other influences it is the most powerful. [[Structures]] that support [[evil]] presence are not broken down through the weight of [[logic]]. Structures that support divine presence solely, are revealed in your [[composure]]. It may be summed up in that simple phrase of that man of long ago who said "behold the man" when he stood in the [[presence]] of [[Jesus]]. It will not be a convincing of mind, it will be a [[transformation]] of the [[heart]], and it has to be desired, and it will only be desired when it is [[foretaste]d] through your [[emanation]] of this relationship of daughter to God.
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Elyon: When you in [[youth]], believed in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus Santa Claus], there were emotional experiences that were real, [[anticipation]], a sense that some benevolent being [[cared]] for you and would [[grace]] you. These are real [[experiences]] but the entity was not. Yours was the [[desire]] to alleviate one from the clutch of [[worry]] and fear of a malevolent being out to disrupt ones spiritual well being will not succeed in rational [[explanation]]. To release one from such an [[orientation]], you will succeed to them in your [[emotional]] response and [[reactions]] to events in your life, that being [[trust]] and [[love]]. [[Acceptance]] of Fathers' [[guidance]] above and beyond all other influences it is the most powerful. [[Structures]] that support [[evil]] presence are not broken down through the weight of [[logic]]. Structures that support divine presence solely, are revealed in your [[composure]]. It may be summed up in that simple phrase of that man of long ago who said "behold the man" when he stood in the [[presence]] of [[Jesus]]. It will not be a convincing of mind, it will be a [[transformation]] of the [[heart]], and it has to be desired, and it will only be desired when it is [[foretaste]d] through your [[emanation]] of this relationship of daughter to God.
    
Q: Thank you for that distinction between the [[mind]] and the [[heart]] approach.
 
Q: Thank you for that distinction between the [[mind]] and the [[heart]] approach.

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