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'''Rob wrote:Dec 10, 2013 at 7:35 PM'''

'''Rob wrote:Dec 10, 2013 at 7:35 PM'''

Thank you for sharing thoughtful questions pertaining to language attributed to celestial beings. I have logged this correspondence in the lesson's discussion page and affixed what is becoming now a [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:Discussion2.jpg customary flag] pointing persons to the discussion page for "questions raised re: this document".

Thank you for sharing thoughtful questions pertaining to language attributed to celestial beings. I have logged this correspondence in the lesson's discussion page and affixed what is becoming now a [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:Discussion2.jpg customary flag] pointing persons to the discussion page for "questions raised re: this document".

==December 11==

==December 11==

'''Juan Juan wrote: Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:50 PM'''

'''Juan Juan wrote: Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:50 PM'''

Having seen the Teaching Mission and Magisterial Mission over the years represented by humans speaking on behalf of material applications of these spiritual initiatives  in voices often assuming unchallengeable authority reminds me of the relationship between hope and illusion described as:

Having seen the Teaching Mission and Magisterial Mission over the years represented by humans speaking on behalf of material applications of these spiritual initiatives  in voices often assuming unchallengeable authority reminds me of the relationship between hope and illusion described as:

Illusions come about when hope is attached to a specific future outcome. Illusion can then dominate hope and cause a person to do whatever it takes to create that illusion in reality. In this way, the ends begin to justify the means, so much so that the greater the utopian nature of the illusion, the more its increasingly desperate and even immoral measures become justified by that illusion. - [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2004-09-12-Hope_and_Illusion#Lesson Ham]

Illusions come about when hope is attached to a specific future outcome. Illusion can then dominate hope and cause a person to do whatever it takes to create that illusion in reality. In this way, the ends begin to justify the means, so much so that the greater the utopian nature of the illusion, the more its increasingly desperate and even immoral measures become justified by that illusion. - [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2004-09-12-Hope_and_Illusion#Lesson Ham]

'''Gerdean wrote: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:34 PM'''

'''Gerdean wrote: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:34 PM'''

Yes, "all human beings have their delusions, it is safe to say that none are without them. When personality and mind interact, there is then a personal aspect of mind that is individual and within this realm are many different delusions which are personal colorations of perception. Character is the willingness to let go of delusion."

Yes, "all human beings have their delusions, it is safe to say that none are without them. When personality and mind interact, there is then a personal aspect of mind that is individual and within this realm are many different delusions which are personal colorations of perception. Character is the willingness to let go of delusion."

"Human beings are under a delusion in general that the morontia and spiritual realms are peopled with perfect beings. But this is untrue. Perfect beings are found in Havona and scattered throughout the universes one finds them. They are perfect, but they are also incomplete. They are limited in their experience. Only the Father can be said to be complete, absolute, as well as perfect." - [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2003-08-24-Being_Grateful_For_Our_Weaknesses#Delusion Ham]

"Human beings are under a delusion in general that the morontia and spiritual realms are peopled with perfect beings. But this is untrue. Perfect beings are found in Havona and scattered throughout the universes one finds them. They are perfect, but they are also incomplete. They are limited in their experience. Only the Father can be said to be complete, absolute, as well as perfect." - [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2003-08-24-Being_Grateful_For_Our_Weaknesses#Delusion Ham]

'''Rob wrote: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:28 PM'''

'''Rob wrote: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:28 PM'''

There is no division among those who discern the same curriculum, the same purpose of manifesting our Father's love, but you in this world have lacked the skills and capacity to gather yourselves in this liberating solidarity to yield the glory of the shared life that is the soul, the life that is the offspring of mind and spirit in each and all. Each of us have our roles to play, but everyone who remains focused upon this manifestation, showing forth our Father’s light, contributes to this growing culture.

There is no division among those who discern the same curriculum, the same purpose of manifesting our Father's love, but you in this world have lacked the skills and capacity to gather yourselves in this liberating solidarity to yield the glory of the shared life that is the soul, the life that is the offspring of mind and spirit in each and all. Each of us have our roles to play, but everyone who remains focused upon this manifestation, showing forth our Father’s light, contributes to this growing culture.

Be prepared to receive additional teachers, influences of which you have not dreamed. Michael in his lavish love has prepared for you a feast. Each of you brings something essential to this table of communion. No one will be refused who desires to live in the love and light we are. - [http://www.nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2007-07-10-Expanding_Concert#Teaching_Mission Monjoronson]

Be prepared to receive additional teachers, influences of which you have not dreamed. Michael in his lavish love has prepared for you a feast. Each of you brings something essential to this table of communion. No one will be refused who desires to live in the love and light we are. - [https://www.nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2007-07-10-Expanding_Concert#Teaching_Mission Monjoronson]

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Monjoronson’s assignment, his particular task will be focusing upon those individuals who are likely to be able, in the course of receiving their correction, to have the greatest impact upon the infrastructure of your shared civilization. We, those of us who adjoin his efforts, my Melchizedek brothers, will be focusing upon what you call the grass roots, but all of us regardless of our particular assignments, will be focused upon individuals. This is the focus of the kingdom of God. This is really the simplicity of Michael’s good news of the Father’s love that rules in the hearts of individual men and women throughout this universe of universes. Together we will effect change throughout this world.

Monjoronson’s assignment, his particular task will be focusing upon those individuals who are likely to be able, in the course of receiving their correction, to have the greatest impact upon the infrastructure of your shared civilization. We, those of us who adjoin his efforts, my Melchizedek brothers, will be focusing upon what you call the grass roots, but all of us regardless of our particular assignments, will be focused upon individuals. This is the focus of the kingdom of God. This is really the simplicity of Michael’s good news of the Father’s love that rules in the hearts of individual men and women throughout this universe of universes. Together we will effect change throughout this world.

There are those who become distracted by hierarchy, organizational structure, and the sense of relative importance of a particular station or office in such a system of governance. Certainly the struggles of mortals adjusting to advancing revelations makes this very visible and obvious that there is a great need to remember and to remain focused upon the Source of all of these that dwells within each person. It is here that the word great is rightly applied. Relative to this, all things are indeed of but comparative significance. It is this eternal presence that must stabilize these ever-changing structures of governance that are in a constant state of evolution. - [http://www.nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2010-09-01-Monmacion#Magisterial_Mission.2C_Hierarchy Monmacion]

There are those who become distracted by hierarchy, organizational structure, and the sense of relative importance of a particular station or office in such a system of governance. Certainly the struggles of mortals adjusting to advancing revelations makes this very visible and obvious that there is a great need to remember and to remain focused upon the Source of all of these that dwells within each person. It is here that the word great is rightly applied. Relative to this, all things are indeed of but comparative significance. It is this eternal presence that must stabilize these ever-changing structures of governance that are in a constant state of evolution. - [https://www.nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2010-09-01-Monmacion#Magisterial_Mission.2C_Hierarchy Monmacion]

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Does your mission mandate differ much from the mandate we are under with the Melchizedek schools?

Does your mission mandate differ much from the mandate we are under with the Melchizedek schools?

No, we work in harmony. We work also in stages. The Melchizedeks have undertaken a great project and will continue to function within their project definitions. My mission, as is theirs, is for the whole world. Our methods of application will differ. My functions will be in certain circles of power upon your planet in your various agencies and institutions. The Melchizedeks have been working largely in a grassroots fashion, and I will be making efforts, to use your terminology, from a top down direction. Therefore we work in harmony, but are using different approaches. I hope I have addressed your question. - [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2003-07-20-Satisfaction,_Magisterial_Mission#Magisterial_Mission Monjoronson]

No, we work in harmony. We work also in stages. The Melchizedeks have undertaken a great project and will continue to function within their project definitions. My mission, as is theirs, is for the whole world. Our methods of application will differ. My functions will be in certain circles of power upon your planet in your various agencies and institutions. The Melchizedeks have been working largely in a grassroots fashion, and I will be making efforts, to use your terminology, from a top down direction. Therefore we work in harmony, but are using different approaches. I hope I have addressed your question. - [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=2003-07-20-Satisfaction,_Magisterial_Mission#Magisterial_Mission Monjoronson]