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===Topic: '''''Envisioning Light and Life Here'''''===

===Topic: ''Envisioning Light and Life Here''===

===Group: [[Lightline TeaM]]===

===Group: [[Lightline TeaM]]===

==Facilitators==

==Facilitators==

   

   

0802-AB Jack here.  Testing. Testing.  Is the time and temperature conducive now? Shall we proceed? It does feel a bit like a production number is about to begin and it is really the same old same old, if you will excuse my laid-back manner. I am just trying to contribute to a sense of ordinariness about this process. You still tend to become hyper or beside yourself somehow and, of course, it’s unwanted so just “chill.”  I will be here, but I do understand you are eager to talk to Charles -- and he has indicated some delight in the upcoming exchange also -- and so I will, without further ado, stand aside and see what commences with this--  whatever this is.

0802-AB Jack here.  Testing. Testing.  Is the time and temperature conducive now? Shall we proceed? It does feel a bit like a production number is about to begin and it is really the same old same old, if you will excuse my laid-back manner. I am just trying to contribute to a sense of ordinariness about this process. You still tend to become hyper or beside yourself somehow and, of course, it’s unwanted so just “chill.”  I will be here, but I do understand you are eager to talk to Charles -- and he has indicated some delight in the upcoming exchange also -- and so I will, without further ado, stand aside and see what commences with this--  whatever this is.

 

CHARLES:  Greetings.  This is Charles.  I have to smile. Jack is a witty fellow, isn’t he?  I am bemused by these midwayers on Urantia. They are a unique sort of midway creatures. Of course, they have the across-the-board similarities with midwayers all across the seven superuniverses, but the character of these here represents the character of your world, of course, and so their intensity, their integrity, their humor, their affection all … (there isn’t any word; the word I am looking for doesn’t exist, evidently).  They are unique, most charming creatures, as we have found you humans to be, as well.

CHARLES:  Greetings.  This is Charles.  I have to smile. Jack is a witty fellow, isn’t he?  I am bemused by these midwayers on Urantia. They are a unique sort of midway creatures. Of course, they have the across-the-board similarities with midwayers all across the seven superuniverses, but the character of these here represents the character of your world, of course, and so their intensity, their integrity, their humor, their affection all … (there isn’t any word; the word I am looking for doesn’t exist, evidently).  They are unique, most charming creatures, as we have found you humans to be, as well.

   

   

I understand a certain getting-to-know-you period is in order for free-flow conversations to take place.

I understand a certain getting-to-know-you period is in order for free-flow conversations to take place.

[Unspoken question about an earlier co-creative design team with which the T/R was involved.]

[Unspoken question about an earlier co-creative design team with which the T/R was involved.]

===='''''[[Context]]'''''====

====''[[Context]]''====

Yes, I am aware of other co-creative teams that exist, have existed, and some which are even now being brought into being. This is right and appropriate for this time in your evolution and yes, I am talking about those who involve the celestial realms, not merely the pencil pushers and movers and shakers of the kingdoms of men to which you are already accustomed.  But this new paradigm, this new plateau of operating with deity – I hesitate even to use that phrase because it opens up such a Pandora’s Box of misunderstanding.  That’s why there is such a push to get you “up to snuff” and “up to speed.” Is that the phrase?  And both the Trinity Teacher Sons and the Magisterial Sons are involved.  But not all of them are involved in this undertaking.  

Yes, I am aware of other co-creative teams that exist, have existed, and some which are even now being brought into being. This is right and appropriate for this time in your evolution and yes, I am talking about those who involve the celestial realms, not merely the pencil pushers and movers and shakers of the kingdoms of men to which you are already accustomed.  But this new paradigm, this new plateau of operating with deity – I hesitate even to use that phrase because it opens up such a Pandora’s Box of misunderstanding.  That’s why there is such a push to get you “up to snuff” and “up to speed.” Is that the phrase?  And both the Trinity Teacher Sons and the Magisterial Sons are involved.  But not all of them are involved in this undertaking.  

   

   

This is only one planet, after all, and one small segment of one sector in an otherwise vast and starry universe, and so while your uniqueness here is fascinating, compelling, and all that, it is nothing special in terms of requiring everyone’s attention. The universe does go on with or without Urantia. In fact, there are worlds in time and space whose history, at some time or another, would astonish you, but those are not available at this point for my reference so if the need comes up, I am sure I could access their records and yet it is far more interesting to deal with what we have to deal with now, that being your world and your place in it at this time. And agreed, there are many involved in the process, so we are quite enthralled and enthused by what’s going on, whether we have been commissioned to be here, volunteered to be here, or are simply passing through.

This is only one planet, after all, and one small segment of one sector in an otherwise vast and starry universe, and so while your uniqueness here is fascinating, compelling, and all that, it is nothing special in terms of requiring everyone’s attention. The universe does go on with or without Urantia. In fact, there are worlds in time and space whose history, at some time or another, would astonish you, but those are not available at this point for my reference so if the need comes up, I am sure I could access their records and yet it is far more interesting to deal with what we have to deal with now, that being your world and your place in it at this time. And agreed, there are many involved in the process, so we are quite enthralled and enthused by what’s going on, whether we have been commissioned to be here, volunteered to be here, or are simply passing through.

===='''''[[Relationship]]'''''====

====''[[Relationship]]''====

I give you some of this background to indicate that it’s a very big universe. I, a Mighty Messenger, do not personally know every other Mighty Messenger throughout the cosmos. I do not have a working knowledge of their cases, their projects, their assignments, and that goes also for entities throughout the [grand] universe, even locally speaking, this superuniverse or even this local universe. I do not know everyone in this local universe. There are a great many I am not personally familiar with although I can access records and get a reading on sundry situations as the need arises, if the need arises.  And even you, dear ones, as closely as we are becoming and remaining co-workers in the tasks ahead, I don’t know each of you personally that well either.  Like any relationship, it comes into flower by spending time with it.

I give you some of this background to indicate that it’s a very big universe. I, a Mighty Messenger, do not personally know every other Mighty Messenger throughout the cosmos. I do not have a working knowledge of their cases, their projects, their assignments, and that goes also for entities throughout the [grand] universe, even locally speaking, this superuniverse or even this local universe. I do not know everyone in this local universe. There are a great many I am not personally familiar with although I can access records and get a reading on sundry situations as the need arises, if the need arises.  And even you, dear ones, as closely as we are becoming and remaining co-workers in the tasks ahead, I don’t know each of you personally that well either.  Like any relationship, it comes into flower by spending time with it.

   

   

You may be a Mighty Messenger in the service of a Magisterial Son or a Trinity Teacher Son.  And so we might as well relax and get down to the basics of sharing what we are going to have to do here on this world that you can participate in with an eye toward our planetary goals of light and life as well as the greater goals of reconnecting your world with your sister worlds, and the lot of you being reconnected to the system, the constellation, the local universe and, in the end, the universe at large.  As it stands, however, we have a long way to go.

You may be a Mighty Messenger in the service of a Magisterial Son or a Trinity Teacher Son.  And so we might as well relax and get down to the basics of sharing what we are going to have to do here on this world that you can participate in with an eye toward our planetary goals of light and life as well as the greater goals of reconnecting your world with your sister worlds, and the lot of you being reconnected to the system, the constellation, the local universe and, in the end, the universe at large.  As it stands, however, we have a long way to go.

===='''''[[Vision]]'''''====

====''[[Vision]]''====

I looked you up, Gerdean, as you looked me up, and so now we know something more of each other. I discovered that you met and had some rapport with a Mighty Messenger many years ago, before the onset of Correcting Time, and I was pleased with the reception that my brother received in your company. I have noted your experience to my brother and he recalls it well, referred to a lesson he gave on being reborn, anticipating the very thing that we are experiencing now in the Correcting Time, although not specifically this Light Line format.  This format is the clever outworking of some co-creative design by many of you, if not all of you, earlier.  And there will be many more to come. The Skype idea is worth investigating, for it enables you to see each other. There is a definite paucity in this contact, this connection, without being in the presence of one another. Fortunately, the Thought Adjusters are able to connect, even at these far-geographic distances, but your psyche/your soul misses the opportunity to share energy with your peers when you are not in the physical presence of each other but much can be conveyed through facial expressions, body language, personality style and so forth that help endear you to one another.  

I looked you up, Gerdean, as you looked me up, and so now we know something more of each other. I discovered that you met and had some rapport with a Mighty Messenger many years ago, before the onset of Correcting Time, and I was pleased with the reception that my brother received in your company. I have noted your experience to my brother and he recalls it well, referred to a lesson he gave on being reborn, anticipating the very thing that we are experiencing now in the Correcting Time, although not specifically this Light Line format.  This format is the clever outworking of some co-creative design by many of you, if not all of you, earlier.  And there will be many more to come. The Skype idea is worth investigating, for it enables you to see each other. There is a definite paucity in this contact, this connection, without being in the presence of one another. Fortunately, the Thought Adjusters are able to connect, even at these far-geographic distances, but your psyche/your soul misses the opportunity to share energy with your peers when you are not in the physical presence of each other but much can be conveyed through facial expressions, body language, personality style and so forth that help endear you to one another.  

   

   

   

   

One of the first things that you need to do is visualize what it is that you want to create. It is said that if you can see it, you can create it, and the biggest problem you have here – the biggest problem by far, bar none, is that you don’t work together. You have mavericks, you have geniuses, you have poets, you have engineers, creators, dramatists, maniacs everywhere, each doing his or her own dynamic thing, and people follow as the mood swings. It is not conducive to -- what’s that word? – sustained living. It’s not sustainable. Your society is not sustainable if it is that erratic. It won’t even get grounded until you have at least a few people who think alike.

One of the first things that you need to do is visualize what it is that you want to create. It is said that if you can see it, you can create it, and the biggest problem you have here – the biggest problem by far, bar none, is that you don’t work together. You have mavericks, you have geniuses, you have poets, you have engineers, creators, dramatists, maniacs everywhere, each doing his or her own dynamic thing, and people follow as the mood swings. It is not conducive to -- what’s that word? – sustained living. It’s not sustainable. Your society is not sustainable if it is that erratic. It won’t even get grounded until you have at least a few people who think alike.

===='''''[[Co-creation]]''''', '''''[[Cooperation]]''''',  '''''[[Light and Life]]'''''====

====''[[Co-creation]]'', ''[[Cooperation]]'',  ''[[Light and Life]]''====

And immediately, upon this process commencing, you then begin to feel the tug and pull of competition. Over here you have half a dozen very capable, competent people following that fellow’s idea, and over here you have a half a dozen extremely bright people completely committed to that fellow’s idea. And not to be left out, there are many other very noble fellows and females putting together their own milieu, fiefdom, company.  Indeed, this is appropriate for this stage in your development. You will—

And immediately, upon this process commencing, you then begin to feel the tug and pull of competition. Over here you have half a dozen very capable, competent people following that fellow’s idea, and over here you have a half a dozen extremely bright people completely committed to that fellow’s idea. And not to be left out, there are many other very noble fellows and females putting together their own milieu, fiefdom, company.  Indeed, this is appropriate for this stage in your development. You will—

   

   

   

   

So what shall we do now? Shall we open the floor and get some involvement from the listeners, the participants? Let’s see if there is some input.  The instruction as conveyed to me is to press star six, that’s asterisk six, in order to open the channel between us.  You are invited. Come in.  Do you have ideas of what light and life should look like? What is your area that you would be able to invest yourself in that area? Nothing is more important than the work of your realm, and so if you are a nurse, that’s your realm. If you are a musician, that’s your realm. If you are a public servant, that’s your realm. If you are a mother, that’s your realm. Each one of us has a realm, not limited by gender, where we work.  That’s where we begin, but we incorporate others and so-- What others? What about your job, your church, your clubs, your associations? What do you envision as representing light and life? And can you connect that vision with your life today? Or not? The floor is open. [Pause]

So what shall we do now? Shall we open the floor and get some involvement from the listeners, the participants? Let’s see if there is some input.  The instruction as conveyed to me is to press star six, that’s asterisk six, in order to open the channel between us.  You are invited. Come in.  Do you have ideas of what light and life should look like? What is your area that you would be able to invest yourself in that area? Nothing is more important than the work of your realm, and so if you are a nurse, that’s your realm. If you are a musician, that’s your realm. If you are a public servant, that’s your realm. If you are a mother, that’s your realm. Each one of us has a realm, not limited by gender, where we work.  That’s where we begin, but we incorporate others and so-- What others? What about your job, your church, your clubs, your associations? What do you envision as representing light and life? And can you connect that vision with your life today? Or not? The floor is open. [Pause]

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

===='''''[[Equality]]'''''====

====''[[Equality]]''====

Student:          It sort of seems that in an age of light and life, Charles, one person wouldn’t have more money and goods than his neighbor, which is how it seems now, and I’m wondering, in terms of the crux of the matter sharing.  Would you share immediately or grow into it or what?

Student:          It sort of seems that in an age of light and life, Charles, one person wouldn’t have more money and goods than his neighbor, which is how it seems now, and I’m wondering, in terms of the crux of the matter sharing.  Would you share immediately or grow into it or what?

   

   

   

   

I’m attempting to catch snippets of thought that I see floating in the environment around you and from Gerdean’s mind, which is far easier to read since it is so close to me, and yet we have not yet put into practice the interview type of engagement that she so enjoyed between Monjoronson and Vicki recently, that you no doubt have seen in circulation.  I am not averse to that technique but someone either needs to stay on top of the mechanics or we’ll need to do a lot more practicing before it will be mastered.  I don’t mind doing it this way, but it does tend to appear like a monolog.  Perhaps I should ask the transcriber to interject the questions that I hear but that you don’t hear.  But then there are probably those who would say it was coerced or tampered with somehow.  You are such Sensitives!  And we have much work to do.  Fortunately, when we do the work we love to do, we don’t mind taking the time necessary to do it right and to do it well.  This is another important point when we think about the co-creative design teams that will be manifesting.  

I’m attempting to catch snippets of thought that I see floating in the environment around you and from Gerdean’s mind, which is far easier to read since it is so close to me, and yet we have not yet put into practice the interview type of engagement that she so enjoyed between Monjoronson and Vicki recently, that you no doubt have seen in circulation.  I am not averse to that technique but someone either needs to stay on top of the mechanics or we’ll need to do a lot more practicing before it will be mastered.  I don’t mind doing it this way, but it does tend to appear like a monolog.  Perhaps I should ask the transcriber to interject the questions that I hear but that you don’t hear.  But then there are probably those who would say it was coerced or tampered with somehow.  You are such Sensitives!  And we have much work to do.  Fortunately, when we do the work we love to do, we don’t mind taking the time necessary to do it right and to do it well.  This is another important point when we think about the co-creative design teams that will be manifesting.  

===='''''[[Spontaneity]]''''', '''''[[Leadership]]'''''====

====''[[Spontaneity]]'', ''[[Leadership]]''====

There is a spiritual expediency that overrides your own sense of urgency. In fact, sometimes your eagerness to do the work, whatever you perceive that to be, gets in the way of the work itself.  And again, this is a good time to remember and reflect upon that principle that we must not let this mission become our mission.  

There is a spiritual expediency that overrides your own sense of urgency. In fact, sometimes your eagerness to do the work, whatever you perceive that to be, gets in the way of the work itself.  And again, this is a good time to remember and reflect upon that principle that we must not let this mission become our mission.  

   

   

   

   

Yes!  I had a question about leadership. Yes, even although leadership is necessary, you cannot build a civilization or manage people or societies or civilizations without leaders, the leaders themselves need to be cooperative and malleable rather than competitive.  (I won’t even make reference to your Congress!)  But if we are going to build light and life on this planet, that is certainly a principle that must be grasped at once. Working together in some fashion, in some acknowledged fashion, is essential.

Yes!  I had a question about leadership. Yes, even although leadership is necessary, you cannot build a civilization or manage people or societies or civilizations without leaders, the leaders themselves need to be cooperative and malleable rather than competitive.  (I won’t even make reference to your Congress!)  But if we are going to build light and life on this planet, that is certainly a principle that must be grasped at once. Working together in some fashion, in some acknowledged fashion, is essential.

===='''''[[Wealth]]'''''====

====''[[Wealth]]''====

Student:          Like with Monjoronson’s moral compass? The quality of life? The quality and progressing nature toward sustainability? Would that be the mode?

Student:          Like with Monjoronson’s moral compass? The quality of life? The quality and progressing nature toward sustainability? Would that be the mode?

   

   

   

   

They need to stay small so that power does not become an awkward issue. Listen: there are a number of ideas, Gerdean, from your novel The Zooid Mission that would be illustrative of some of these points. I hope you will feel free to bring those points into the discussion when they come up -- if, of course, you have a moment in your mind, busy as it is with me, to think about such a thing. Perhaps we will get fluid.

They need to stay small so that power does not become an awkward issue. Listen: there are a number of ideas, Gerdean, from your novel The Zooid Mission that would be illustrative of some of these points. I hope you will feel free to bring those points into the discussion when they come up -- if, of course, you have a moment in your mind, busy as it is with me, to think about such a thing. Perhaps we will get fluid.

===='''''[[Effort]]''''', '''''[[Progress]]'''''====

====''[[Effort]]'', ''[[Progress]]''====

I am appreciative of the trust you are giving me. I appreciate your respect for me as an entity in the hierarchy, as well as an associate of Monjoronson, and so I am willing to engage with you and entertain your ideas as well as the ideas that anyone else is encouraged to and able to present in this process of discussing what designs could come into being where you are and with your assistance that would help your circumstance – where you live, where you work, your realm and the people in it – further towards light and life. Do I see you sitting back saying, “Oh, no! That will take too long.”  Well, we have an eternity.  

I am appreciative of the trust you are giving me. I appreciate your respect for me as an entity in the hierarchy, as well as an associate of Monjoronson, and so I am willing to engage with you and entertain your ideas as well as the ideas that anyone else is encouraged to and able to present in this process of discussing what designs could come into being where you are and with your assistance that would help your circumstance – where you live, where you work, your realm and the people in it – further towards light and life. Do I see you sitting back saying, “Oh, no! That will take too long.”  Well, we have an eternity.