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Elyon/Linel/Malvantra

 

Malvantra: Contact

 

===Teacher: [[Elyon]], [[LinEl]], [[Malvantra]]===

===TR: [[Mark Rogers]], [[Jonathan]]===

 

Elyon (Mark TR): Warm greetings to you, my friends. This is Elyon. Today I would speak on contact.

Elyon (Mark TR): Warm greetings to you, my friends. This is Elyon. Today I would speak on contact.

 

This concept of contact has many different levels and many different effects. For sometime now you and I have enjoyed a different level of contact than either of us had ever experienced before. This contact we have between us serves on many different levels to strengthen awareness, to inspire growth and action, to refresh and support each other with confirmation of our ideals. All these expressions of our contact and many more are instigated by the contact we have with each other.

This concept of contact has many different levels and many different effects. For sometime now you and I have enjoyed a different level of contact than either of us had ever experienced before. This contact we have between us serves on many different levels to strengthen awareness, to inspire growth and action, to refresh and support each other with confirmation of our ideals. All these expressions of our contact and many more are instigated by the contact we have with each other.

That is the conclusion of my remarks for today. I am with you as always as are others to be called upon. We all welcome your questions, comments, observations.

That is the conclusion of my remarks for today. I am with you as always as are others to be called upon. We all welcome your questions, comments, observations.

 

Jonathan: In the past years you have mentioned that, in relation to faith, doubt can be good as a stimulus to growth. Now you mention doubt in relation to fear as stifling growth. Could you comment on both the usefulness and the drawbacks to doubt?

Jonathan: In the past years you have mentioned that, in relation to faith, doubt can be good as a stimulus to growth. Now you mention doubt in relation to fear as stifling growth. Could you comment on both the usefulness and the drawbacks to doubt?

* Elyon: Indeed, the doubt card can be played in two directions. In preliminary stages of development, doubt is absolutely normal and can indeed be a stimulant to enhance or increase faith. It is also true that from time to time throughout your development this doubt may rise to the surface. However, it is infallibly true that, as you spiritually progress in your ascension, doubt inevitably becomes less and less of a factor as you give yourself over more and more to faith and the will of the Father and your progression. The more you whole- heartedly devote your being to your ascension, the will of the Father, the less room is left for any doubt. So that a fully developed spiritualized being does not grapple with doubt as a factor; they are fully devoted to their faith in which there is literally no room left for doubt.

Elyon: Indeed, the doubt card can be played in two directions. In preliminary stages of development, doubt is absolutely normal and can indeed be a stimulant to enhance or increase faith. It is also true that from time to time throughout your development this doubt may rise to the surface. However, it is infallibly true that, as you spiritually progress in your ascension, doubt inevitably becomes less and less of a factor as you give yourself over more and more to faith and the will of the Father and your progression. The more you whole- heartedly devote your being to your ascension, the will of the Father, the less room is left for any doubt. So that a fully developed spiritualized being does not grapple with doubt as a factor; they are fully devoted to their faith in which there is literally no room left for doubt.

Doubt has by its very nature a stifling, halting effect on forward progression and movement. In the beginning stages of spiritual development this doubt challenges the individual to further increase their faith. So the doubt is seen as an obstacle or a challenge to go around or to overcome, and therefore it is useful. At some point it is no longer a necessary element in your spiritual development and can be released or let go from your spiritually progressive path. Does this illuminate any further the dual nature of doubt?

Doubt has by its very nature a stifling, halting effect on forward progression and movement. In the beginning stages of spiritual development this doubt challenges the individual to further increase their faith. So the doubt is seen as an obstacle or a challenge to go around or to overcome, and therefore it is useful. At some point it is no longer a necessary element in your spiritual development and can be released or let go from your spiritually progressive path. Does this illuminate any further the dual nature of doubt?

Jonathan: As you were speaking I was playing with the metaphor of water. I see that if someone has an ocean to cross, doubting one's ability to build a worthy vessel to cross this ocean, in faith utilizes that doubt to research and develop a seaworthy vessel. That would be a good growth stimulus. But at full sail at sea, that is not the time to doubt one's effective construction and pull in the sails and climb in the berth and cringe in fear. That's where doubt has its negative effect. As we progress our assuredness of the care and provision of the Father and our abilities to work His will should overcome those doubts.

Jonathan: As you were speaking I was playing with the metaphor of water. I see that if someone has an ocean to cross, doubting one's ability to build a worthy vessel to cross this ocean, in faith utilizes that doubt to research and develop a seaworthy vessel. That would be a good growth stimulus. But at full sail at sea, that is not the time to doubt one's effective construction and pull in the sails and climb in the berth and cringe in fear. That's where doubt has its negative effect. As we progress our assuredness of the care and provision of the Father and our abilities to work His will should overcome those doubts.

* Elyon: My friend, you have done an excellent job of stating the truths, rearranging in your concept frame and explaining perhaps even better than I did the places where doubt exists and the consequences therein. Well done.

Elyon: My friend, you have done an excellent job of stating the truths, rearranging in your concept frame and explaining perhaps even better than I did the places where doubt exists and the consequences therein. Well done.

Jonathan: It was team work, you and me.

Jonathan: It was team work, you and me.

* Elyon: Speaking the way you just did is an example I would point to that we have suggested in lessons lately of a message being so clearly and profoundly delivered from your person, from your personality, not from some hidden voice or some different source other than yourself. The job you did personally in expressing those truths goes to illuminate the point that has been made recently of the value of lessons and ideals and truths delivered by yourselves. Each one of you in this room is entirely capable of delivering profound and meaningful messages from your own stores of information and your own self. This is something you all should attempt to be aware of and perhaps develop more, this confidence in the fact that you are quite able to do this. You are not required to be in a group setting or in a transmitter/receiver capacity, you are simply empowered to present ideals and ideas to elevate those around you, even if it simply comes from you, yourself.

Elyon: Speaking the way you just did is an example I would point to that we have suggested in lessons lately of a message being so clearly and profoundly delivered from your person, from your personality, not from some hidden voice or some different source other than yourself. The job you did personally in expressing those truths goes to illuminate the point that has been made recently of the value of lessons and ideals and truths delivered by yourselves. Each one of you in this room is entirely capable of delivering profound and meaningful messages from your own stores of information and your own self. This is something you all should attempt to be aware of and perhaps develop more, this confidence in the fact that you are quite able to do this. You are not required to be in a group setting or in a transmitter/receiver capacity, you are simply empowered to present ideals and ideas to elevate those around you, even if it simply comes from you, yourself.

* Linnel (Jonathan): Greetings, northwest neighbors, I am Linnel. I have managed to get Jonathan to speak.

Linnel (Jonathan): Greetings, northwest neighbors, I am Linnel. I have managed to get Jonathan to speak.

It is heartwarming to all teachers to witness the widespread growth throughout this teaching mission to experience with you your reach for higher ground, deeper understanding, and a broader embrace of one another. This is a teacher's mission and, as Elyon has pointed out, you have a vast reserve of educational material within yourselves, great stores of inspirational messages of hope and of healing to be shared. I greet you warmly. This exchange, this contact, with your race of humans is an exciting adventure. Planet 606 is having its coming out party.

It is heartwarming to all teachers to witness the widespread growth throughout this teaching mission to experience with you your reach for higher ground, deeper understanding, and a broader embrace of one another. This is a teacher's mission and, as Elyon has pointed out, you have a vast reserve of educational material within yourselves, great stores of inspirational messages of hope and of healing to be shared. I greet you warmly. This exchange, this contact, with your race of humans is an exciting adventure. Planet 606 is having its coming out party.

Evelyn: It won't be long before we start planning our regional get-together for next summer. Since you work with the Oregon people, do you have any suggestions at this early phase to promote such that our gathering would be more meaningful?

Evelyn: It won't be long before we start planning our regional get-together for next summer. Since you work with the Oregon people, do you have any suggestions at this early phase to promote such that our gathering would be more meaningful?

* Linnel: I would suggest emphasizing a deeper commitment to family, the mission family, to apply as much attention upon your needs with each other.

Linnel: I would suggest emphasizing a deeper commitment to family, the mission family, to apply as much attention upon your needs with each other.

The outreach you long to give in ministry is best supported by close and intimate interpersonal love. Strengthen the bonds; this will enlarge your ability to function individually through the expansiveness of a team.

The outreach you long to give in ministry is best supported by close and intimate interpersonal love. Strengthen the bonds; this will enlarge your ability to function individually through the expansiveness of a team.

Tom: Could you address the questions we had earlier about last week's lesson, expanding from the group to the whole?

Tom: Could you address the questions we had earlier about last week's lesson, expanding from the group to the whole?

* Malvantra: I am Malvantra; I will take this question.

Malvantra: I am Malvantra; I will take this question.

Urantia is leaving quarantine. Governmental structures existent on your planet have been run under isolation. Now begins the integration into the overall systematic operation of worlds. Each individual on this planet likewise will need to work to break the isolation of self from others and enact the brotherhood of man. Just as your planetary supervisors are now making decisions considering the entire system, so likewise will you make personal decisions considering the entire world. This is an aspect of the Father's business, for your freewill gives you liberty to do your business as an individual.

Urantia is leaving quarantine. Governmental structures existent on your planet have been run under isolation. Now begins the integration into the overall systematic operation of worlds. Each individual on this planet likewise will need to work to break the isolation of self from others and enact the brotherhood of man. Just as your planetary supervisors are now making decisions considering the entire system, so likewise will you make personal decisions considering the entire world. This is an aspect of the Father's business, for your freewill gives you liberty to do your business as an individual.

Methods for improving this world are valuable. The effort of each individual is a contribution to the greater team. Therefore, it is not always clear how your individual efforts will contribute or conflict unless you develop the view of the whole wherein even your failures are part of the growth of the entire civilization. Remember always the presence of the Supreme.

Methods for improving this world are valuable. The effort of each individual is a contribution to the greater team. Therefore, it is not always clear how your individual efforts will contribute or conflict unless you develop the view of the whole wherein even your failures are part of the growth of the entire civilization. Remember always the presence of the Supreme.