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===Topic: ''Presuming Upon Divine Mercy''===
===Group: [[Pittsburgh TeaM]]===
==Facilitators==
===Teacher: [[Tomas]], [[Merium]]===
===TR: [[Gerdean]]===
==Session==
===Opening===
TOMAS: How wonderful to be here with you this evening in the bounty that you bring, the incredible horn of plenty of experience in the daily life and in your search for truth.
TOMAS:
How wonderful to be here with you this evening in the bounty that you bring, the incredible horn of plenty of experience in the daily life and in your search for truth.
We have all been active and busy; even those of you who feel you have sat by the wayside and watched mighty things happen to others, you, too, have been upholding your part in the celestial swing of time. Ebb and flow are a part of the life. That some of you are active while some of you are passive, is yet another reflection on the cyclic nature of growth overseen and balanced by The Infinite Spirit. Even in your life there are times, individually, when you are very active and, by comparison, you are quiet and reflective.
We have all been active and busy; even those of you who feel you have sat by the wayside and watched mighty things happen to others, you, too, have been upholding your part in the celestial swing of time. Ebb and flow are a part of the life. That some of you are active while some of you are passive, is yet another reflection on the cyclic nature of growth overseen and balanced by The Infinite Spirit. Even in your life there are times, individually, when you are very active and, by comparison, you are quiet and reflective.
First I will remark regarding the phrase about presuming upon divine mercy, which caught your attention earlier, Celeste, and it is worthy of attention indeed.
First I will remark regarding the phrase about presuming upon divine mercy, which caught your attention earlier, Celeste, and it is worthy of attention indeed.
===Lesson===
Presuming Upon Divine Mercy
Presuming Upon Divine Mercy
Are there questions this evening?
Are there questions this evening?
===Dialogue===
Contrasting and Comparing Good and Evil
Contrasting and Comparing Good and Evil
Elizabeth:
Elizabeth: I had a question that came out of the fact that one of the papers that is sent to us is talking about contrast, that it's the greatest teacher, that on our planet we learn by looking at comparative evil as against a better good, and that this is an excellent teacher.
I had a question that came out of the fact that one of the papers that is sent to us is talking about contrast, that it's the greatest teacher, that on our planet we learn by looking at comparative evil as against a better good, and that this is an excellent teacher.
And it reminded me of something that I was really always sort of questioning, which was in a book about the angels. There was a picture of "the dark angels" and they were representative of the under side that had given up themselves so that they could serve some purpose, and so when I was reading about this contrast, I was wondering.
And it reminded me of something that I was really always sort of questioning, which was in a book about the angels. There was a picture of "the dark angels" and they were representative of the under side that had given up themselves so that they could serve some purpose, and so when I was reading about this contrast, I was wondering.
Now, for instance, this young man who committed suicide, was certainly caught up in the negative, and so maybe a lot of people will learn something from the tragedy of his life, and so I'm really wondering-- For instance Judas, people have said on occasion to me, he "volunteered" because he was going to help people to learn, and so I'm really confused about this role!
Now, for instance, this young man who committed suicide, was certainly caught up in the negative, and so maybe a lot of people will learn something from the tragedy of his life, and so I'm really wondering-- For instance Judas, people have said on occasion to me, he "volunteered" because he was going to help people to learn, and so I'm really confused about this role!
TOMAS:
TOMAS: I am not certain, Elizabeth, what role you are referencing, for you made reference to at least four examples, but I do oversee your general dilemma and I would refer you all to-- Is it page 51, Leah?
I am not certain, Elizabeth, what role you are referencing, for you made reference to at least four examples, but I do oversee your general dilemma and I would refer you all to-- Is it page 51, Leah?
Leah:
Leah:
Yes.
Yes.
TOMAS:
TOMAS: -- the example of contrasts as a way of weighing, that if this is necessary on one hand then that is required on the other as a balance point.
-- the example of contrasts as a way of weighing, that if this is necessary on one hand then that is required on the other as a balance point.
But let me elevate that concept slightly, for future reference and for unity of goal sake, for eventually Urantia will become settled in Light and Life, and it will not be necessary to experience the hardships as they are known in a more primitive society. It will not be necessary for you to have war in order to appreciate the merits of peace for the actual lesson will have been learned.
But let me elevate that concept slightly, for future reference and for unity of goal sake, for eventually Urantia will become settled in Light and Life, and it will not be necessary to experience the hardships as they are known in a more primitive society. It will not be necessary for you to have war in order to appreciate the merits of peace for the actual lesson will have been learned.
The contrast then becomes one of refinements and nuances of perfection. Indeed, as you evolve (you individually and as a race of people, the human race), your sensitivities will incorporate greater and greater realities, spirit realities. Your sensitivities and sensibilities will be very refined from where they are today, and it would be vulgar then to have a contrast so low as to shock the sensibilities of a race of people who had long since evolved up and out of the negative side of that coin. Do you see what I'm saying?
The contrast then becomes one of refinements and nuances of perfection. Indeed, as you evolve (you individually and as a race of people, the human race), your sensitivities will incorporate greater and greater realities, spirit realities. Your sensitivities and sensibilities will be very refined from where they are today, and it would be vulgar then to have a contrast so low as to shock the sensibilities of a race of people who had long since evolved up and out of the negative side of that coin. Do you see what I'm saying?
Elizabeth:
Elizabeth: I do! I do. I remember that somebody had told me once that when you reach a certain spiritual level you simply are choosing from good or better.
I do! I do. I remember that somebody had told me once that when you reach a certain spiritual level you simply are choosing from good or better.
Correct. Yes. Remember your experiences here on this finite realm are rather rugged. Your soul is being forged and certain testing ground is utilized. If there were no self to forsake to do the Father's will . .. well, one day the self will be greatly diminished from where it is today, but it will still need to be modified to accommodate the Father's will.
TOMAS: Correct. Yes. Remember your experiences here on this finite realm are rather rugged. Your soul is being forged and certain testing ground is utilized. If there were no self to forsake to do the Father's will . .. well, one day the self will be greatly diminished from where it is today, but it will still need to be modified to accommodate the Father's will.
Condoning Contrary Behaviors
Condoning Contrary Behaviors
Elizabeth:
Elizabeth: Well, I had another question, too, about something in my personal life, which is a person very close to me that I have to pray about a lot, and have to use the method in A Course in Miracles about in order to have a relationship with this individual.
Well, I had another question, too, about something in my personal life, which is a person very close to me that I have to pray about a lot, and have to use the method in A Course in Miracles about in order to have a relationship with this individual.
TOMAS: What lesson from the Course is it that you are applying?
Elizabeth: That he is my teacher. He's my best teacher because he is -- I have to forgive him. My spirit has to reach out and forgive him mostly every day because he's in my family.
TOMAS: Perhaps rather than A Course in Miracles, Elizabeth, you would do well to revert to a walk through the library and discover what kind of book he is.
Elizabeth: (Laughing) That's good. My problem is this: I don't want to seem to condone this person's behavior. As. I'm accepting him and not being angry with him, then I'm very confused because I don't know how far that behavior goes, because it seems to me that he could misconstrue it as condoning his behavior. So I have a problem in this situation. I just have the feeling that he might think that I am condoning, because I haven't verbalized any anger. I hope I have not even had it.
TOMAS: It is not necessary to manifest a stand through emotion just because your society is accustomed to emotional communication. There are infinitely superior methods of communicating your truths without reverting to lesser and primitive behaviors. It is possible for the enlightened human being to indicate to another with a smile on one's face and love in one's eyes that their behavior in your opinion is unconscionable but you are in no position to judge, only to offer your opinion. This can be done graciously. It is not necessary that you agree with everyone or that they agree with you, remember, and it is perfectly all right to disagree, even affectionately.
Elizabeth: Thank you.
MERIUM: Good evening, my friends. I am Merium.
Group:
Group: Oh, hello Merium.
MERIUM:How wonderful that you are all together. I do feel as if my fine-feathered friends were home from their flights, and I nestle you under my wings, little birds. [Ed. - Elizabeth and Leah just got back from the Urantia Fellowship Conference in Vancouver, Canada.]
Group: Good.
How good to have you all with your feet on the ground.
MERIUM: How good to have you all with your feet on the ground.
Tomas has graciously afforded me an opportunity to come and visit with you for awhile this evening.
Tomas has graciously afforded me an opportunity to come and visit with you for awhile this evening.
Well, I do like to talk and I do like to have my way. I am finished when I am finished and not until. But I have felt you, my darlings, hanging on my every word, and I weep for joy for my love for you.
Well, I do like to talk and I do like to have my way. I am finished when I am finished and not until. But I have felt you, my darlings, hanging on my every word, and I weep for joy for my love for you.
===Closing===
I am going to take the helm from Tomas and sign off for the evening. It is an honor for both of us to be here with you. I will not give you an assignment except to enjoy the moment, enjoy the love that you have in you and in your horn of plenty. Farewell.
I am going to take the helm from Tomas and sign off for the evening. It is an honor for both of us to be here with you. I will not give you an assignment except to enjoy the moment, enjoy the love that you have in you and in your horn of plenty. Farewell.
Group:
Group: Farewell. Thank you so much. Thank you, Tomas and Merium.
Farewell. Thank you so much. Thank you, Tomas and Merium.
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