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===Dialogue===
 
===Dialogue===
Vicki:  The first question is this:  Many individuals find the truth and reconciliation process unresolved in the area of justice, in that many who were guilty of horrendous crimes were not incarcerated or punished, but allowed to go free.  They felt, as did some of the victims of these crimes, that they were not vindicated.  Those of us who are students of the Urantia Book know that on a universal level there is indeed a system and place to enact justice, and that universe administrators see to the justice due to each individual, so that it is absolute.  We’ve also been told that justice is not merely about passing on a guilty or not guilty sentence, and then exacting punishment.  So it seems to me, that in the full act of forgiveness, as you described to us, Monjoronson, that there is really no reason to feel a need for vindication.  Could you elaborate on this concept of justice and vindication?
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Vicki:  The first question is this:  Many [[individuals]] find the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_and_reconciliation truth and reconciliation] [[process]] unresolved in the area of [[justice]], in that many who were guilty of horrendous crimes were not incarcerated or punished, but allowed to go free.  They felt, as did some of the victims of these crimes, that they were not vindicated.  Those of us who are students of the [[Urantia Book]] know that on a [[universal]] level there is indeed a [[system]] and place to enact [[justice]], and that [[Ancients of Days|universe administrators]] see to the justice due to each individual, so that it is [[absolute]].  We’ve also been told that justice is not merely about passing on a guilty or not guilty sentence, and then exacting punishment.  So it seems to me, that in the full act of [[forgiveness]], as you described to us, Monjoronson, that there is really no reason to feel a need for vindication.  Could you elaborate on this concept of justice and vindication?
 
   
 
   
 
MONJORONSON:  Most certainly.  The prescription that we have given you for this process requires you to forget the past knowing that justice will be meted out in the eventuality of time for each individual.  It is important for you to let the past go, simply because of the echoing effect of vengeance and justice, vengeance and punishment, as this can never be done.  It is much like a feud between clans that one takes someone else’s life and it repercusses back and forth so that it never ends, that true justice is impossible upon your planet at this time.  Your courts that you have in these nations of immense violence could not possibly see the end of the justice process to enact true reconciliation through the retribution of punishment, the elimination of individuals for horrendous crimes that they had done.  Therefore, it is essential that you learn to forgive, though you do not forget, knowing that the way forward is for you, as well as for the others, and that the “you,” (put that in quotes) is applicable to each individual within that social equation.  You must forget, you must forgive, and if you cannot forget, then forgive and move on with your life.  Does this help?
 
MONJORONSON:  Most certainly.  The prescription that we have given you for this process requires you to forget the past knowing that justice will be meted out in the eventuality of time for each individual.  It is important for you to let the past go, simply because of the echoing effect of vengeance and justice, vengeance and punishment, as this can never be done.  It is much like a feud between clans that one takes someone else’s life and it repercusses back and forth so that it never ends, that true justice is impossible upon your planet at this time.  Your courts that you have in these nations of immense violence could not possibly see the end of the justice process to enact true reconciliation through the retribution of punishment, the elimination of individuals for horrendous crimes that they had done.  Therefore, it is essential that you learn to forgive, though you do not forget, knowing that the way forward is for you, as well as for the others, and that the “you,” (put that in quotes) is applicable to each individual within that social equation.  You must forget, you must forgive, and if you cannot forget, then forgive and move on with your life.  Does this help?
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MONJORONSON:  Most definitely.  It is a matter of right time, right place; it is a matter of awareness.  You have many mortals on your planet who are already able, and have the capacity, the ability to see into time, to see the future; they are also intuitive enough to be aware of the motivations of other individuals around them, and to feel harm, before it occurs.  My capacities as well, as a mortal on your world, will be thoroughly invested with morontial senses of all capacities, and my presence then will be aware of all that occurs around me.  Be assured, my dear friends, that I will use these incidences for our highest mutual good.  Thank you.
 
MONJORONSON:  Most definitely.  It is a matter of right time, right place; it is a matter of awareness.  You have many mortals on your planet who are already able, and have the capacity, the ability to see into time, to see the future; they are also intuitive enough to be aware of the motivations of other individuals around them, and to feel harm, before it occurs.  My capacities as well, as a mortal on your world, will be thoroughly invested with morontial senses of all capacities, and my presence then will be aware of all that occurs around me.  Be assured, my dear friends, that I will use these incidences for our highest mutual good.  Thank you.
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===Closing===
 
===Closing===
 
Vicki:  Thank you.  And unless you have something more you would like to share, that concludes our session.
 
Vicki:  Thank you.  And unless you have something more you would like to share, that concludes our session.

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