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*Those who arrive on mansonia on the third day after death

*Those who arrive on mansonia on the third day after death

   

   

Vicki:  I have one question.  Those individuals who enter the resurrection hall within three days, as Christ did, are not considered sleeping survivors, is that correct?  (Monjoronson:  That is correct.)  Then those who resurrect after three days are more spiritually aware and engaged during their mortal life?

Vicki:  I have one question.  Those [[individuals]] who enter the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_30#30:4._THE_ASCENDING_MORTALS resurrection hall] within three days, as [[Christ]] did, are not [[considered]] sleeping survivors, is that correct?  (Monjoronson:  That is correct.)  Then those who [[resurrect]] after three days are more [[spiritually]] [[aware]] and [[engaged]] during their [[mortal]] life?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes, let me give you a metaphor:  Let us say that you have two children in eighth grade, and one is very bright and the other is just normal.  The bright one—what would you do?  Would you give him the option of moving into his sophomore year in high school, or would you retain him as a freshman?  Logically, you would promote that individual to the level of their competency, and this is what is done for individuals who are spiritually competent to move into the morontial realm after death, upon the third day.  Likewise, those individuals who are not of that capability are retained; they are held as sleeping survivors, not ready to make the decision because they are unaware.  There is always the capacity to move ahead in your spiritual career as rapidly as you are consciously capable to engage the next step of development.  In the morontial realm there are literally hundreds upon hundreds of these levels where you are given entrée to the next level, once you accomplish your present level.  Further, there are sometimes minor upgrades to your mind function and you skip to attend to your growing skill level and capacity as you grow.  Sometimes there are major upgrades to where you will be given a new morontial body and mind function.  

MONJORONSON:  Yes, let me give you a [[metaphor]]:  Let us say that you have two [[children]] in eighth grade, and one is very bright and the other is just [[normal]].  The bright one—what would you do?  Would you give him the [[option]] of moving into his sophomore year in high school, or would you retain him as a freshman?  [[Logically]], you would promote that [[individual]] to the level of their competency, and this is what is done for [[individuals]] who are [[spiritually]] competent to move into the [[morontial]] realm after [[death]], upon the third day.  Likewise, those [[individuals]] who are not of that [[capability]] are retained; they are held as [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_30#30:4._THE_ASCENDING_MORTALS sleeping survivors], not ready to make the decision because they are unaware.  There is always the [[capacity]] to move ahead in your [[spiritual career]] as rapidly as you are [[consciously]] capable to [[engage]] the next step of [[development]].  In the [[morontial]] realm there are [[literally]] hundreds upon hundreds of these [[levels]] where you are given entrée to the next level, once you accomplish your [[present]] level.  Further, there are sometimes minor upgrades to your [[mind]] [[function]] and you skip to attend to your growing [[skill]] level and [[capacity]] as you grow.  Sometimes there are major upgrades to where you will be given a new [[morontial]] [[body]] and [[mind]] [[function]].  

   

   

Just as you transfer your old addresses and phone numbers and such, from one cell phone to another at your cell phone store, so too is all the old data transferred to your new mind.  Some when they arrive in the resurrection halls and become aware but still remain stubborn, into their own authority, they are let to remain by themselves with others in that capacity until they wish to move ahead.  This may take an earth day, it may take a century of earth time, it may take a millennium, or ten millenniums of earth time for them to finally make a decision, come to awareness that they need to make a decision whether to become as though they never were, or to move on to the next step.  You will find that the universe at all levels is infinitely patient.  No one will force you to move on, though you will be urged to educate yourself to make a competent decision.  Do you understand what I am saying regarding retention and movement ahead?  

Just as you [[transfer]] your old addresses and phone numbers and such, from one cell phone to another at your cell phone store, so too is all the old [[data]] transferred to your new [[mind]].  Some when they arrive in the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_47#47:3_THE_FIRST_MANSION_WORLD resurrection halls] and become [[aware]] but still remain [[stubborn]], into their own [[authority]], they are let to remain by themselves with others in that [[capacity]] until they wish to move ahead.  This may take an [[earth]] day, it may take a century of earth time, it may take a [[millennium]], or ten millenniums of [[earth]] [[time]] for them to finally make a [[decision]], come to [[awareness]] that they need to make a [[decision]] whether to become as though they never were, or to move on to the next step.  You will find that the [[universe]] at all levels is infinitely [[patient]].  No one will [[force]] you to move on, though you will be urged to [[educate]] yourself to make a competent [[decision]].  Do you [[understand]] what I am saying regarding retention and movement ahead?  

   

   

Vicki:  Yes, I do.  I understand.  You’ve clarified it well.  Thank you.

Vicki:  Yes, I do.  I [[understand]].  You’ve [[clarified]] it well.  Thank you.

   

   

MONJORONSON:  So the points of confusion for mortals involves actually the point of death; what happens to those who don’t go on; what happens to those who refuse to go on; what happens to those who are attached to this world, but who are in spirit; and what happens to those who are spiritually competent.  Do you think of any other instance that needs to be addressed?

MONJORONSON:  So the points of [[confusion]] for [[mortals]] involves actually the point of [[death]]; what happens to those who don’t go on; what happens to those who refuse to go on; what happens to those who are attached to this world, but who are in [[spirit]]; and what happens to those who are [[spiritually]] competent.  Do you think of any other instance that needs to be addressed?

   

   

Vicki:  Only when I think of the movies, the books, and I think of just this huge amount of media that is coming out with little bits of truth, veiled in distortion.  There is so much on dark entities and dark energy—really strange things that I think are harmful, not just to adults, but to children.  What do you say about that, Monjoronson?

Vicki:  Only when I think of the [[movies]], the [[books]], and I think of just this huge amount of [[media]] that is coming out with little bits of [[truth]], veiled in [[distortion]].  There is so much on [[dark]] [[entities]] and dark [[energy]]—really strange things that I think are harmful, not just to adults, but to [[children]].  What do you say about that, Monjoronson?

 

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*Parents’ responsibility to teach about spirits of the light

*Parents’ responsibility to teach about spirits of the light