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*APRIL 12, 1992
 
*APRIL 12, 1992
 
===Lesson===
 
===Lesson===
WILL: The love of God rains down from Paradise on all of the worlds of time and space, on
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WILL: The [[love]] of [[God]] rains down from [[Paradise]] on all of [[the worlds]] of [[time and space]], on
those worlds both inhabited and uninhabited. God's love penetrates all of the shadowed spaces
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those worlds both inhabited and uninhabited. [[God]]'s [[love]] penetrates all of the [[shadowed]] spaces
and pervades all. Good evening to you all, my friends and students. I welcome our
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and pervades all.  
communication. I am your teacher, Will, who loves you. You have not had an opportunity to ask
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questions for quite some time. Tonight I would like to ask you to pose your questions on the
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Good evening to you all, my [[friends]] and [[students]]. I [[welcome]] our
topic of responsibility upon which topic I will have some words to say in advance.
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[[communication]]. I am your [[teacher]], Will, who [[loves]] you. You have not had an [[opportunity]] to ask
We have spoken much about how we would like your dealings to develop between yourself
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questions for quite some time. Tonight I would like to ask you to pose your [[questions]] on the
and your brothers and sisters, those known and unknown. We have touched on the topic in some
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topic of [[responsibility]] upon which topic I will have some [[words]] to say in advance.
detail about how a thought adjuster is active in each person. The adjuster fragment is only
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===='''''[[Thought Adjusters]]'''''====
capable of living in the present, not the future, and not the past and in order for you to
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We have [[spoken]] much about how we would like your dealings to [[develop]] between yourself
communicate well with the adjuster, by thought or deed, it is necessary for you also to live in the
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and your [[brothers and sisters]], those known and [[unknown]]. We have [[touched]] on the [[topic]] in some
eternal present. When you live in the present, you are living much closer to the knife edge for
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detail about how a [[thought adjuster]] is active in each person. The [[adjuster]] fragment is only
things happen spontaneously. We have also developed to some extent the concept that the
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capable of living in the [[present]], not the [[future]], and not the [[past]] and in order for you to
adjuster is active in every person and the same rules hold for others whether those rules are
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[[communicate]] well with the [[adjuster]], by [[thought]] or deed, it is [[necessary]] for you also to live in the
known or unknown, but that the ideal contact between two humans on this planet is for those two
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[[eternal]] present. When you live in the [[present]], you are living much closer to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_edge knife edge] for
humans living in the present and following closely the adjuster's leading meet face to face and deal
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[[things]] happen [[spontaneously]].  
with each other spontaneously in truth, love and trust. When such an event occurs, there is no
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===='''''[[Communication]]'''''====
way to estimate the results which are possible. For when God mind meets God mind, great things
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We have also [[developed]] to some extent the [[concept]] that the
can happen. That is the ideal situation. All of us know that the fact is that the ideal happens
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[[adjuster]] is active in every [[person]] and the same rules hold for others whether those rules are
rarely and most human interactions fall well short of this ideal. This leaves each of you with the
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known or [[unknown]], but that the [[ideal]] contact between [[two]] [[humans]] on [[this planet]] is for those two
puzzling question of what your responsibilities actually are when you are clearly incapable of
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humans living in the [[present]] and following closely the [[adjuster]]'s [[leading]] meet [[face]] to face and deal
estimating the preparedness or receptiveness of the other party and also when you are in fact
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with each other [[spontaneously]] in [[truth]], [[love]] and [[trust]]. When such an [[event]] occurs, there is no
unsure where you stand with God at any particular moment.
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way to estimate the results which are possible. For when [[God]] mind meets God mind, great things
It is easy for us to dispose of your side of the equation. Your personal relationship with God
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can happen. That is the [[ideal]] situation.  
is what this movement is all about. You already know more than you could possibly put into
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action. There is nothing for it except practice and I am gratified to see that each of you engages
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All of us know that the [[fact]] is that the [[ideal]] happens
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rarely and most human [[interactions]] fall well short of this [[ideal]]. This leaves each of you with the
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[[puzzling]] [[question]] of what your [[responsibilities]] actually are when you are clearly incapable of
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estimating the [[preparedness]] or receptiveness of the other party and also when you are in [[fact]]
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unsure where you stand with [[God]] at any particular moment.It is easy for us to dispose of your side of the [[equation]]. Your [[personal]] [[relationship]] with [[God]]
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is what [[Teaching Mission|this movement]] is all about. You already know more than you could possibly put into
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[[action]]. There is nothing for it except [[practice]] and I am gratified to see that each of you [[engages]]
 
in such a practice from time to time.
 
in such a practice from time to time.
Our topic tonight is about your responsibility towards the other party. What then are your
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===='''''[[Responsibility]]'''''====
responsibilities? In our view, you are not responsible for how the other party reacts to this
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Our [[topic]] tonight is about your [[responsibility]] towards the other party. What then are your
prospect of direct and unguarded communication with another human nor how they should react
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[[responsibilities]]? In our view, you are not responsible for how the other party [[reacts]] to this
to the presence of the almighty Father in you. We think that they should naturally find such
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prospect of direct and unguarded [[communication]] with another [[human]] nor how they should react
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to the [[presence]] of the [[Thought Adjuster|almighty Father]] in you. We think that they should [[naturally]] find such
 
occasion tantalizing but that is not always the case. On occasion, your fellows may shrink from
 
occasion tantalizing but that is not always the case. On occasion, your fellows may shrink from
such contact. They may be confused by such contact. They may find it irritable or an intrusion
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such [[contact]]. They may be [[confused]] by such contact. They may find it [[irritable]] or an intrusion
upon their normal thought patterns and habits of association. What then is your responsibility to
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upon their [[normal]] [[thought]] [[patterns]] and [[habits]] of association. What then is your [[responsibility]] to
your opposite party in such event? Press forward as we have said before. Bare your chest. Do
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your opposite party in such [[event]]?  
not allow their unreceptiveness or natural human caution to cause you to dampen your enthusiasm
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to doing the Father's important work. We trust that the Father is right in this ministry which He
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Press forward as we have said before. Bare your [[Heart|chest]]. Do
has reserved for Himself. It is easy for us on the outside to see it is the ministry that is not
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not allow their unreceptiveness or [[natural]] human [[caution]] to cause you to dampen your [[enthusiasm]]
without problems. The chief problem, of course, being the unwillingness or the stubbornness, or
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to doing [[the Father]]'s important work. We [[trust]] that the Father is right in this [[ministry]] which He
the ignorance of the humans towards whom this ministry is aimed. But those are just the normal
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has reserved for Himself. It is easy for us on the outside to see it is the [[ministry]] that is not
working problems of dealing with humans. It is no different on other planets. Even on the
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without [[problems]]. The chief problem, of course, being the unwillingness or the [[stubbornness]], or
advanced planets, humans still have a natural tendency towards truculence, aggressiveness,
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the [[ignorance]] of the humans towards whom this [[ministry]] is aimed. But those are just the normal
stubbornness and independent thinking. It is very difficult for any of you to imagine something
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working [[problems]] of dealing with [[humans]]. It is no [[different]] on other [[planets]].  
seriously greater than yourselves. Typically, your notion of God amounts to little more than
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yourself glorified but the great God is much more than you could possibly imagine. He who hung
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Even on the
the stars has powers that not even we know of.
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[[Light and Life|advanced planets]], humans still have a natural [[tendency]] towards [[Cruelty|truculence]], [[aggressiveness]],
You are not responsible for accommodating yourself to the exact frame of reference of your
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[[stubbornness]] and [[independent]] [[thinking]]. It is very [[difficult]] for any of you to [[imagine]] something
listener or your opposite number in any human to human meeting. Just as we challenge you, so
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seriously greater than yourselves. Typically, your notion of [[God]] amounts to little more than
we recommend that you challenge people. Yet we wish for you to challenge them with notions
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yourself [[glorified]] but the great God is much more than you could possibly imagine. He who hung the [[stars]] has [[powers]] that not even we know of.
that are rooted in their own understanding so that before talking, you must do some listening.
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You should do as the master did. Ask questions not to gain information, but to elicit
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You are not [[responsible]] for accommodating yourself to the exact [[frame of reference]] of your
understanding. Draw out your opposite number through the use of your questions. Find out
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[[listener]] or your opposite number in any human to human meeting. Just as we [[challenge]] you, so
what the other person thinks. Particularly, you should find out how they feel about things which
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we recommend that you challenge people. Yet we [[wish]] for you to challenge them with notions
is even more important with most humans in their conscious thoughts. Their conscious thoughts
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that are [[rooted]] in their own [[understanding]] so that before talking, you must do some [[listening]].
are often times poorly composed and inarticulate but all have feelings. Therefore, endeavor to
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You should do as [[the master]] did. Ask [[questions]] not to gain [[information]], but to elicit
challenge them with the highest possible interpretation of their own present concepts. Use their
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[[understanding]]. Draw out your opposite number through the use of your [[questions]]. Find out
thoughts to compel them to further enlightenment.
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what the other person [[thinks]]. Particularly, you should find out how they [[feel]] about things which
You are not responsible for the effect of your touch offered in healing or in friendly
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is even more important with most [[humans]] in their [[conscious]] [[thoughts]]. Their conscious thoughts
communication. One of the unfortunate side effects of your extremely independent and
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are often times poorly composed and inarticulate but all have [[feelings]]. Therefore, endeavor to
individualized societal values is discomfort with human contact, physical contact. Many people,
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[[challenge]] them with the highest possible [[interpretation]] of their own present [[concepts]]. Use their
even those among the membership of this group, have had unpleasant offensive or damaging
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[[thoughts]] to compel them to further [[enlightenment]].
human physical contacts. Yet we say to you that you are not responsible for the reaction of the
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other person. If you touch them honestly and lovingly and fondly, it is their business as to how
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You are not [[responsible]] for the [[effect]] of your [[touch]] offered in [[healing]] or in friendly
they shall react to such information. Some will be overloaded, others surprised, perhaps made
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[[communication]]. One of the unfortunate side effects of your extremely [[independent]] and
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individualized societal [[values]] is discomfort with human [[contact]], [[physical]] contact. Many people,
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even those among the membership of this [[group]], have had unpleasant [[offensive]] or damaging
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human [[physical]] [[contacts]]. Yet we say to you that you are not [[responsible]] for the [[reaction]] of the
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other [[person]]. If you [[touch]] them [[honestly]] and lovingly and fondly, it is their [[business]] as to how
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they shall react to such [[information]]. Some will be overloaded, others [[surprised]], perhaps made
 
uncomfortable and, in certain cases, the other party may feel panic at the prospect of human
 
uncomfortable and, in certain cases, the other party may feel panic at the prospect of human
contact in this fashion. But you are not personally responsible for how they react. Your
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contact in this [[Manner|fashion]]. But you are not personally [[responsible]] for how they react. Your
responsibility is discharged and you have honestly allowed yourself to serve as a conduit for the
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responsibility is discharged and you have [[honestly]] allowed yourself to serve as a conduit for [[the Father]]'s [[cosmic]] [[love]] and the spirit of brotherhood and sisterhood which should exist among all
Father's cosmic love and the spirit of brotherhood and sisterhood which should exist among all
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people.  
people. You are not responsible for the things that people do and say with the words and
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thoughts that you have shared with them. Many are the opportunities for this to misinterpret or
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You are not [[responsible]] for the [[things]] that people do and say with the [[words]] and
to recall incorrectly or to misunderstand the elementary meaning of the words which you offer
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[[thoughts]] that you have shared with them. Many are the [[opportunities]] for this to misinterpret or
them in the spirit of brotherhood. It is like passing them a tool. It is not your responsibility how
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to recall incorrectly or to misunderstand the elementary [[meaning]] of the [[words]] which you offer
they employ that tool. Your responsibility is to distribute as many tools as possible. The product
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them in the spirit of brotherhood. It is like passing them a [[tool]]. It is not your [[responsibility]] how
is theirs. The opportunity is yours. You are not responsible for the effect that an awakening of
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they employ that tool. Your [[responsibility]] is to [[distribute]] as many tools as possible. The product
the power of spiritual beneficence may have in people's family or marital relationships. Each
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is theirs. The [[opportunity]] is yours.  
person in this life is building the value of that life in every passing moment. The best way for each
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of you to conduct your lives is to see each moment as the next opportunity to begin adhering to
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You are not [[responsible]] for the [[effect]] that an [[awakening]] of
the Father's love. The moment yet to come is the next best opportunity to adhere to the Father's
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the [[power]] of [[spiritual]] [[beneficence]] may have in people's [[family]] or [[Marriage|marital relationships]]. Each
love. There is no profit to be gained in putting off the Father's good work. Just as Tuesday is
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person in this life is building the [[value]] of that life in every passing [[moment]]. The best way for each
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of you to conduct your lives is to see each [[moment]] as the next opportunity to begin adhering to
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[[the Father]]'s [[love]]. The moment yet to come is the next best [[opportunity]] to [[adhere]] to the Father's
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love. There is no [[profit]] to be gained in putting off [[the Father]]'s [[good]] [[work]]. Just as Tuesday is
 
better than Wednesday and Monday better than Tuesday, right now is much better than any other
 
better than Wednesday and Monday better than Tuesday, right now is much better than any other
time. To live in the Father's love and light brings a certain kind of power to a human's life. It
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time.  
changes all relationships. Nothing in life will ever be the same. This is occasionally disturbing to
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people's marriage partners. Apparently nearly always to their adolescent children and typically
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To live in [[the Father]]'s [[love]] and [[light]] brings a certain kind of [[power]] to a human's life. It
noticeable to their friends and companions, but like most things involving faith, they all have a
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[[changes]] all [[relationships]]. Nothing in life will ever be the same. This is occasionally [[disturbing]] to
way of working out for the best. Therefore there is no way that you can be responsible for the
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people's [[marriage]] [[partners]]. Apparently nearly always to their [[adolescent]] [[children]] and typically
effect of your words and deeds upon some other person's relationship with third parties.
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noticeable to their [[friends]] and [[companions]], but like most things involving [[faith]], they all have a
There is a practically infinite list of things in this life for which you are not responsible. We
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way of working out for the best. Therefore there is no way that you can be [[responsible]] for the
don't have enough time tonight to cover all the things in which you are not responsible, but I think
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[[effect]] of your [[words]] and deeds upon some other person's [[relationship]] with third parties.
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There is a practically infinite list of things in this life for which you are not [[responsible]]. We
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don't have enough time tonight to cover all the [[things]] in which you are not [[responsible]], but I [[think]]
 
that those are the major things. Probably the things that would come up most often if you should
 
that those are the major things. Probably the things that would come up most often if you should
trouble yourselves to think about the repercussions of this modest ministry. No matter what it is
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trouble yourselves to [[think]] about the [[repercussions]] of this [[modest]] [[ministry]]. No matter what it is
that you are not responsible for, there is no changing those things for which you are ultimately
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that you are not [[responsible]] for, there is no changing those things for which you are ultimately
responsible for. To feel the Father, the God of heaven, alive and active within each of you saying,
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[[responsible]] for.  
"This is the way" and to share that joy, that stimulation, that lives in the eternal present with your
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brothers and sisters as if Jesus of Nazareth was standing by your side and, with your every act,
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To feel [[the Father]], the [[God]] of heaven, alive and [[active]] within each of you saying,
you intended to demonstrate to him the perfection of your understanding of his teachings. That
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"This is the way" and to [[share]] that [[joy]], that [[stimulation]], that lives in the [[eternal]] [[present]] with your
you allow yourself to be the connection, the focus point to which the paradise Father's love flows
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[[brothers and sisters]] as if [[Jesus]] of [[Nazareth]] was standing by your side and, with your every [[act]],
directly from Him through you to every person you meet and, lastly, that you do so in the most
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you intended to [[demonstrate]] to him the [[perfection]] of your [[understanding]] of his teachings. That
sincere manner without unduly tarnishing the seriousness and sacredness of this mission. That is
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you allow yourself to be the [[connection]], the [[Focal Point|focus point]] to which the [[Universal Father|paradise Father]]'s love [[flows]]
my lesson for you tonight. Questions? Let us open the floor.
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directly from Him through you to every [[person]] you meet and, lastly, that you do so in the most
TOM: Will, this is Tom. Are we to be more aggressive in striking up conversations with people,
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[[sincere]] [[manner]] without unduly tarnishing the seriousness and [[sacredness]] of this [[mission]]. That is
like I deal with the public every day, and try to move the conversations in directions that might
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my lesson for you tonight. [[Questions]]? Let us open the floor.
prove positive, or we just supposed to--just answer that.
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===Dialogue===
WILL: Until only a few short moons ago, your lives were concerned only with your private path
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TOM: Will, this is Tom. Are we to be more [[aggressive]] in striking up [[conversations]] with people,
and virtually nothing was thought about interpersonal spiritual development. Look how far we
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like I deal with the [[public]] every day, and try to move the conversations in directions that might
have traveled now. You ask me a question like this. First, I will tell you the policy answer. The
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prove [[positive]], or we just supposed to--just answer that.
policy is every occasion is an occasion to do God's work. Now, Thomas, in your case, I think
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you should pursue every opportunity in the spiritual sense to the extent that you feel comfortable
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WILL: Until only a few short moons ago, your lives were concerned only with your [[private]] [[path]]
with it and would not feel foolish relating that exchange with your friends and colleagues. Always
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and virtually nothing was [[thought]] about interpersonal [[spiritual]] [[development]]. Look how far we
keep in mind when troubling questions like these arise, how the Master Jesus dealt with such
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have traveled now. You ask me a question like this.  
opportunities. He was crafty, he was sly and yet he was perfectly honest and straightforward at
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the same time. He developed a technique to look into the other person's heart without being
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First, I will tell you the [[policy]] answer. The
ensnared in many superficial ideas and feelings. He went simply and directly to the heart of the
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policy is every occasion is an occasion to do [[God]]'s [[work]]. Now, Thomas, in your case, I think
matter. I realize that there may not be an immediately obvious connection between the repair of
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you should pursue every [[opportunity]] in the [[spiritual]] sense to the extent that you [[feel]] [[comfortable]]
time pieces and the Father's presence in each of us but you might begin calculating some ideas.
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with it and would not feel [[foolish]] relating that exchange with your [[friends]] and [[colleagues]]. Always
You might make a general remark upon the topic of why you enjoy working in this field. Do you
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keep in [[mind]] when troubling questions like these arise, how [[the Master]] [[Jesus]] dealt with such
find it rewarding? The very act of repairing the machine of linear time has caused you to
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[[opportunities]]. He was crafty, he was sly and yet he was perfectly [[honest]] and straightforward at
contemplate the infinite. People expect watchmakers to be kind of kooky that way. You should
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the [[same time]]. He [[developed]] a [[technique]] to look into the other [[person]]'s [[heart]] without being
deliver them the service that they have come to expect. Is there another part to your question?
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ensnared in many [[superficial]] [[ideas]] and [[feelings]]. He went [[simply]] and directly to the [[heart]] of the
JUDY: Will, this is Judy. I was just wondering - maybe this is not a responsibility question, but
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matter.  
one of prudence - what is your advice about telling people of the events to come about the
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Melchizedeks?
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I [[realize]] that there may not be an immediately obvious [[connection]] between the repair of
WILL: People hear many predictions in the course of daily life. Almost none of them come true.
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time pieces and [[the Father]]'s [[presence]] in each of us but you might begin calculating some [[ideas]].
Fortunately, it is the nature of people that they simply do not remember all of the predictions to
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You might make a general remark upon the [[topic]] of why you enjoy working in this field. Do you
which they are subjected. If you predict such an event to them and it happens to come true within
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find it rewarding? The very [[act]] of repairing the [[machine]] of [[linear]] time has caused you to
24 hours, they will think you are brilliant, but if they pay serious attention to you, they probably
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[[contemplate]] the [[infinite]]. People expect [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmakers watchmakers] to be kind of kooky that way. You should
won't believe you. This business of the Melchizedek arrival is something we must all wait on.
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deliver them the service that they have come to [[expect]]. Is there another part to your [[question]]?
There is nothing for us to do at the moment but to have faith. Those who have faith will not be
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overly troubled by this. Those without faith will have the difficult contrary life experience that
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JUDY: Will, this is Judy. I was just [[wondering]] - maybe this is not a [[responsibility]] question, but
that situation lends itself to. I think that there is profit though in the suggestion of the possibility.
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one of [[prudence]] - what is your [[advice]] about telling people of the [[events]] to come about the
It is one of those kinds of hypothetical questions that people take rather seriously. People have
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[[Melchizedeks]]?
difficulty with living their religion, but I think that the concept of another coming...it is just
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provocative enough to begin stirring some of those long forgotten memories. I see profit in that.
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WILL: People hear many [[predictions]] in the course of daily life. Almost none of them come true.
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Fortunately, it is the [[nature]] of people that they [[simply]] do not remember all of the [[predictions]] to
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which they are subjected. If you predict such an [[event]] to them and it happens to come true within
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24 hours, they will think you are [[brilliant]], but if they pay serious [[attention]] to you, they probably
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won't believe you. This [[business]] of the [[Melchizedek]] [[Materialization|arrival]] is something we must all wait on.
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There is nothing for us to do at the [[moment]] but to have [[faith]]. Those who have faith will not be
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overly troubled by this. Those without [[faith]] will have the [[difficult]] contrary life [[experience]] that
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that situation lends itself to.  
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I [[think]] that there is [[profit]] though in the suggestion of the [[possibility]].
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It is one of those kinds of [[hypothetical]] questions that people take rather seriously. People have
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[[difficulty]] with living their [[religion]], but I think that the [[concept]] of another coming...it is just
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provocative enough to begin stirring some of those long forgotten [[memories]]. I see profit in that.
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===='''''[[Stillness]]'''''====
 
Another question?
 
Another question?
HAL: Will, this is Hal. I guess I have a couple of questions. First, we had the occasion to meet a
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HAL: Will, this is Hal. I guess I have a couple of [[questions]]. First, we had the occasion to meet a
Chinese man who is a teacher of the Chinese believers who attend a baptist church and his wife
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Chinese man who is a teacher of the Chinese believers who attend a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_baptist baptist church] and his [[wife]]
apparently has some sort of a serious disorder. I am not sure if it is a nervous disorder or it is
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apparently has some sort of a serious disorder. I am not sure if it is a [[nervous]] disorder or it is
emotional or psychological in origin and HeYu and I have been thinking about her quite a bit, I
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[[emotional]] or [[psychological]] in origin and HeYu and I have been [[thinking]] about her quite a bit, I
would see her a couple of times when I would go into the silence and so we both had the idea of
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would see her a couple of times when I would go into the [[silence]] and so we both had the [[idea]] of
contacting him indirectly through another party and suggesting that she might want to practice the
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contacting him indirectly through another party and suggesting that she might want to [[practice]] the
silence at the same time that we both go into the silence each day. That is once in the morning
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[[silence]] at the [[same time]] that we both go into the [[silence]] each day. That is once in the [[morning]]
 
and again in the afternoon, that she might find benefit in doing that. Does that sound like a good
 
and again in the afternoon, that she might find benefit in doing that. Does that sound like a good
 
suggestion to you and there is a second part to the question but maybe you can address that first.
 
suggestion to you and there is a second part to the question but maybe you can address that first.
WILL: I am aware that many people draw solace from the idea of group meditations and
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simultaneous meditations. My perspective on this is somewhat different than yours. I understand
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WILL: I am [[aware]] that many people draw [[solace]] from the [[idea]] of group [[meditations]] and
that people would be soothed and feel more powerful by the purely human telepathic
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[[simultaneous]] meditations. My [[perspective]] on this is somewhat different than yours. I [[understand]]
communication achieved by simultaneous meditation even at remote physical locations but, from
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that people would be soothed and feel more powerful by the purely human [[telepathic]]
my perspective, it looks as though you have a cable to the largest power station ever made and I
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[[communication]] achieved by simultaneous meditation even at remote [[physical]] locations but, from
am wondering whether turning on three or four lights at the same time will be enough. Each
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my [[perspective]], it looks as though you have a cable to the largest [[power]] station ever made and I
person needs to develop their relationship with the Father. The Father stands above all religions.
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am [[wondering]] whether turning on three or four lights at the same time will be enough. Each
He will not be swayed by petitions or sacrifice. He will not be rubbed down by dogmas and
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[[person]] needs to develop their [[relationship]] with [[the Father]]. The Father stands above all [[religions]].
doctrines. It is a help to people to be educated in the fundamentals of meditation and stillness but
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He will not be swayed by [[petitions]] or [[sacrifice]]. He will not be rubbed down by [[dogmas]] and
there is such variety in the actual performance of stillness that I do not think that there is any
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[[doctrines]]. It is a help to people to be educated in the fundamentals of [[meditation]] and [[stillness]] but
particular technique that will work for everyone or anyone. I recommend that you try the
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there is such variety in the actual [[performance]] of [[stillness]] that I do not think that there is any
technique that you suggest but I think that all such techniques are temporary stepping stones. It is
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particular [[technique]] that will work for everyone or anyone.  
the beginning of these efforts that is difficult. The beginning is the first hurtle but still is not the
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only hurtle. Shortly following the beginning, comes the impediment of doubt, then immediately
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I recommend that you try the
after doubt, comes the impediment of steadfast practice. I realize that this is a rather circumspect
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[[technique]] that you suggest but I [[think]] that all such techniques are temporary stepping stones. It is
answer to your question but I see it as a transitory issue. There is no one best path to the Father.
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the beginning of these [[efforts]] that is difficult. The beginning is the first hurdle but still is not the
Any path will do. Let us hear the second half of your question.
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only hurdle. Shortly following the beginning, comes the impediment of [[doubt]], then immediately
HAL: Is it possible that this contact will lead to further contacts with a Chinese bible study group
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after doubt, comes the impediment of [[steadfast]] [[practice]]. I [[realize]] that this is a rather circumspect
and maybe to the general Chinese christian community and I think we have all been having
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answer to your question but I see it as a transitory issue. There is no one best [[path]] to [[the Father]]. Any path will do.  
thoughts about how to relate ourselves to the church and particularly how to relate ourselves to
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the atonement doctrine which is central to the belief system of many people, and I am not really
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Let us hear the second half of your question.
sure how to relate my own ministry to that and yet I have felt that these contacts with the Chinese
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believing community has perhaps been an arrangement. I guess I would ask if you have any
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HAL: Is it possible that this [[contact]] will lead to further contacts with a Chinese [[bible]] [[study]] group
comments that would illuminate or suggest wise approaches to people for whom the atonement
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and maybe to the general Chinese [[christian]] [[community]] and I [[think]] we have all been having
doctrine and other ideas may be important.
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[[thoughts]] about how to relate ourselves to the [[church]] and particularly how to relate ourselves to
WILL: I have no remarks on whether your connection with that community are prearranged. Of
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the [[atonement]] [[doctrine]] which is central to the [[belief]] system of many people, and I am not really
course. There are two things to keep in mind with this kind of contact. The first is that people
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sure how to relate my own [[ministry]] to that and yet I have felt that these [[contacts]] with the Chinese
rarely make themselves available for life in a foreign society without being unhappy with their own
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believing [[community]] has perhaps been an arrangement. I guess I would ask if you have any
society in some fundamental way. The second important factor is never forget that people will be
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comments that would [[illuminate]] or suggest wise approaches to people for whom the [[atonement]]
drawn to you. The degree to which you go to them with the message is the precise measure of
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[[doctrine]] and other [[ideas]] may be important.
your failure. These fundamentalist churches have built their power on their ability to answer
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every question based on some interpretation of the holy scripture. We, here, gathered in this
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WILL: I have no remarks on whether your [[connection]] with that [[community]] are prearranged. Of
room and those watching from above are not bound by scripture. We are bound by the stream of
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course. There are two [[things]] to keep in [[mind]] with this kind of [[contact]].  
love that flows from the Father. Our duty is to spread love about, not to correct mistaken
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*The first is that people rarely make themselves available for life in a foreign [[society]] without being unhappy with their own [[society]] in some [[fundamental]] way.  
notions. Reveal the Father's love in your life, in your actions and in your highest thoughts. Do
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*The second important factor is never [[forget]] that people will be
not trouble yourselves with trivia like church policies and dogma. Those things will wither and
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drawn to you. The [[degree]] to which you go to them with the [[message]] is the precise measure of
fall by the wayside of their own accord. They have not enough inspiration to carry them into
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your [[failure]]. These [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalism fundamentalist churches] have built their [[power]] on their [[ability]] to answer
perpetuity. In every vegetable patch a few weeds spring up. You might manicure it daily but it
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every question based on some [[interpretation]] of the holy [[scripture]].  
won't make the tomatoes taste any better. If you go toe to toe with the people who have
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memorized every line in the Bible, you will lose. You deal from love, you will not go wrong.
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We, here, gathered in this
Rise above those kinds of interpretations. The Father's gift of love cannot be captured on a page
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room and those watching from above are not bound by [[scripture]]. We are bound by the [[stream]] of
of any book. The Father's love fills the innerspaces. The interstices between people cannot be
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[[love]] that flows from [[the Father]]. Our [[duty]] is to spread [[love]] about, not to correct mistaken
captured and coded or reduced to ink and paper. That is why He has created this tremendous
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notions. [[Reveal]] [[the Father]]'s [[love]] in your life, in your [[actions]] and in your highest [[thoughts]]. Do
bureaucracy. If it were not a personal relationship, He could pelt you with books from above and
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not trouble yourselves with [[trivia]] like church [[policies]] and [[dogma]]. Those things will wither and
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fall by the wayside of their own accord. They have not enough [[inspiration]] to carry them into
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perpetuity.  
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In every vegetable patch a few weeds spring up. You might manicure it daily but it
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won't make the tomatoes [[taste]] any better. If you go toe to toe with the people who have
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorization memorized] every line in the [[Bible]], you will lose. You deal from [[love]], you will not go wrong.
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Rise above those kinds of [[interpretations]]. [[The Father]]'s gift of [[love]] cannot be captured on a page
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of any [[book]]. [[The Father]]'s love fills the inner spaces. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstices interstices] between people cannot be
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captured and coded or reduced to [[Writing|ink]] and [[paper]]. That is why He has created this tremendous
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[[bureaucracy]]. If it were not a [[personal]] [[relationship]], He could pelt you with [[books]] from above and
 
bruise it into your heads. Next question.
 
bruise it into your heads. Next question.
SUSAN: Responsibility. This is Susan. I am troubled when I drive about town and see people
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standing at the side of the road with signs and seeking assistance and I wonder at my
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SUSAN: [[Responsibility]]. This is Susan. I am troubled when I drive about town and see people
responsibilities in those instances. I do not believe that I can help everyone, every time and I don't
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standing at the side of the road with [[signs]] and seeking assistance and I [[wonder]] at my
feel like I can judge whom I am to help. So, that leaves me with a question.
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responsibilities in those instances. I do not [[believe]] that I can help everyone, every time and I don't
WILL: All the religions of the world have independently developed an answer to your question.
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feel like I can [[judge]] whom I am to help. So, that leaves me with a [[question]].
The answer is that charity is good for the giver. There is no way for you to know the effect of
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your deeds or your words or your charity. It is impossible for you to know in this life whether by
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WILL: All the [[religions]] of the world have independently [[developed]] an answer to your question.
your donation you have brought a degree of comfort to the receiving person or whether you have
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The answer is that [[charity]] is good for the giver. There is no way for you to know the [[effect]] of
extended their miserable wretched existence by another fractional unit of time. You might have
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your deeds or your [[words]] or your [[charity]]. It is impossible for you to know in this life whether by
done nothing more than contribute to their viceridden lifestyle. Yet these effects can be separated
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your donation you have brought a [[degree]] of comfort to the [[receiving]] [[person]] or whether you have
from your generosity. It matters not the posture of the person who hears God's words and see
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extended their miserable wretched [[existence]] by another fractional [[unit]] of time. You might have
His acts. The effect on the actor is what is recorded in heaven. Next question.
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done nothing more than contribute to their [[vice]] ridden [[lifestyle]]. Yet these [[effects]] can be separated
I see that you have all reached some peace with this notion. Sometimes it is troubling to think
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from your [[generosity]]. It matters not the [[posture]] of the [[person]] who hears [[God]]'s [[words]] and see
of the repercussions of the things that we do or intend to do. Often times we attempt things and
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His [[acts]]. The [[effect]] on the actor is what is recorded in [[heaven]]. Next question.
the deed itself seems to go awry and it doesn't matter whether we rehearse or are absolutely
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spontaneous. It just does not work out the way we had planned. Certainly in the teaching
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I see that you have all reached some [[peace]] with this notion. Sometimes it is troubling to [[think]]
program we have found this to be true but even that has added a dimension that was unexpected.
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of the [[repercussions]] of the [[things]] that we do or [[intend]] to do. Often times we attempt things and
Even these unforecasted surprises, we have learned to appreciate. You have been instructed and
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the [[deed]] itself seems to go awry and it doesn't matter whether we [[rehearse]] or are absolutely
it has been a growth experience for us and so we press forward, each according to our abilities,
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[[spontaneous]]. It just does not [[work]] out the way we had [[planned]]. Certainly in the teaching
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program we have found this to be true but even that has added a [[dimension]] that was unexpected.
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Even these unforecasted [[surprises]], we have [[learned]] to [[appreciate]]. You have been instructed and
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it has been a [[growth]] [[experience]] for us and so we press forward, each according to our [[abilities]],
 
receiving rewards always in excess of our merits.
 
receiving rewards always in excess of our merits.
I thank you all for your time and attention tonight. I always enjoy our meetings. I spend time
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with each of you daily. It is my pleasure and my assignment. I am wonderfully attuned to my
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I [[thank]] you all for your [[time]] and [[attention]] tonight. I always enjoy our meetings. I spend time
present duties. It is more than I had hoped. Better than I imagined. Until our meeting next
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with each of you daily. It is my [[pleasure]] and my assignment. I am [[wonderfully]] [[attuned]] to my
week, I bid you all goodnight and leave you walking in the Father's light.
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present [[duties]]. It is more than I had [[hoped]]. Better than I [[imagined]]. Until our meeting next
Shalom. Will-172
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week, I bid you all goodnight and leave you walking in [[the Father]]'s [[light]].
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[[Shalom]].
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==Session 4==
 
==Session 4==
 
*April 19, 1992
 
*April 19, 1992

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