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STUDENT: Bertrand, I wanted to ask you a [[question]] about people that I have met that are [[atheists]], that do not [[believe]] in [[God]], and believe that all that we have now is all that there is and that there is [[beauty]] in a sunset and that there are beautiful trees. When I talk with someone like that and I [[share]] my [[faith]], I feel like I can't continue because I don't know where to go from there.

STUDENT: Bertrand, I wanted to ask you a [[question]] about people that I have met that are [[atheists]], that do not [[believe]] in [[God]], and believe that all that we have now is all that there is and that there is [[beauty]] in a sunset and that there are beautiful trees. When I talk with someone like that and I [[share]] my [[faith]], I feel like I can't continue because I don't know where to go from there.

BERTRAND: That's a [[difficult]] individual indeed. Mainly, because on one hand they are [[speaking]] to you of [[truth, beauty and goodness]] which is [[evidence]] of [[God]]'s work in their lives. That is also evidence that they [[believe]], although in their [[conscious]] mind their belief [[structure]] says they do not. It is an [[intellectual]] [[game]] that they are playing within themselves. Continue to [[work]] with them from a [[truth, beauty and goodness]] standpoint until they [[realize]] the [[connection]] between that [[beauty]] and that [[truth]] and that [[goodness]] is with [[God]]. You probably will have very little in the way of success in bringing them to [[the Father]] in a conscious way. Your best approach is to elevate that [[truth, beauty and goodness]] that they already believe in. Does that help?

BERTRAND: That's a [[difficult]] individual indeed. Mainly, because on one hand they are [[speaking]] to you of [[truth, beauty, and goodness]] which is [[evidence]] of [[God]]'s work in their lives. That is also evidence that they [[believe]], although in their [[conscious]] mind their belief [[structure]] says they do not. It is an [[intellectual]] [[game]] that they are playing within themselves. Continue to [[work]] with them from a [[truth, beauty, and goodness]] standpoint until they [[realize]] the [[connection]] between that [[beauty]] and that [[truth]] and that [[goodness]] is with [[God]]. You probably will have very little in the way of success in bringing them to [[the Father]] in a conscious way. Your best approach is to elevate that [[truth, beauty, and goodness]] that they already believe in. Does that help?

STUDENT: Bertrand, I have a [[question]], which is off the subject. I was [[reading]] the [[Ham]] tapes this weekend. Ham tells us that the [[Apostle Andrew]] had taken meticulous notes of the [[experience]] with [[Jesus]] and even now, is concerned with the [[work]] that he had begun on [[the planet]]. Since The [[Urantia Book]] tells us that [[Andrew, the Apostle|Andrew]]'s work was lost, could you tell us if his notes are still intact and if so, where we might find them.

STUDENT: Bertrand, I have a [[question]], which is off the subject. I was [[reading]] the [[Ham]] tapes this weekend. Ham tells us that the [[Apostle Andrew]] had taken meticulous notes of the [[experience]] with [[Jesus]] and even now, is concerned with the [[work]] that he had begun on [[the planet]]. Since The [[Urantia Book]] tells us that [[Andrew, the Apostle|Andrew]]'s work was lost, could you tell us if his notes are still intact and if so, where we might find them.

BERTRAND: No. His works were lost. The [[midwayers]], and some of the recording [[angels]], were able to reconstruct his [[history]] of [[Jesus]] [[mission]] here and used quite a bit of it as a basis for the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus fourth section] of The [[Urantia Book]]. So, in [[essence]], much of it is right there.

BERTRAND: No. His works were lost. The [[midwayers]], and some of the recording [[angels]], were able to reconstruct his [[history]] of [[Jesus]] [[mission]] here and used quite a bit of it as a basis for the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus fourth section] of The [[Urantia Book]]. So, in [[essence]], much of it is right there.

===Closing===

===Closing===

BERTRAND: If there are no [[questions]], I wish to leave you with this [[thought]] this evening:

BERTRAND: If there are no [[questions]], I wish to leave you with this [[thought]] this evening: