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*Healthcare as a supportive element of societal sustainability  
 
*Healthcare as a supportive element of societal sustainability  
 
You see, you must begin to think of healthcare as a supportive element of societal sustainability, not short term, but in the long term of 50 years, a hundred years, 250, 500 years. How does healthcare fit into this picture?  You would need to project or devise a vision for healthcare 500 years from now, and use the schematic of sustainability to begin designing that state.  And then of course, you would need sociologists, economists and cultural anthropologists to help you stage the incremental developments that would lead to it, and stepping it back to the current time.  This is how you devise and design sustainable healthcare.  What would healthcare look like 500 years from now?  Would there only be one healthcare corporation that would hostage ill people, sick people, injured people, for their life savings, their life’s income for their healing?  Certainly not, as there would be “blood in the streets” because of that position, wouldn’t there?  No, it must be something different.  What you are seeing here in this nation through its healthcare system, is the development of a healthcare process, service, that can be revised through a new modality of sustainability in healthcare.  Similarly as education, there is no need to build different hospitals or schools; it is simply that you have different activities go on within those areas.  Healthcare and education are very similarly dysfunctional and irrational at some degree, in your nation and need to be radically revised.
 
You see, you must begin to think of healthcare as a supportive element of societal sustainability, not short term, but in the long term of 50 years, a hundred years, 250, 500 years. How does healthcare fit into this picture?  You would need to project or devise a vision for healthcare 500 years from now, and use the schematic of sustainability to begin designing that state.  And then of course, you would need sociologists, economists and cultural anthropologists to help you stage the incremental developments that would lead to it, and stepping it back to the current time.  This is how you devise and design sustainable healthcare.  What would healthcare look like 500 years from now?  Would there only be one healthcare corporation that would hostage ill people, sick people, injured people, for their life savings, their life’s income for their healing?  Certainly not, as there would be “blood in the streets” because of that position, wouldn’t there?  No, it must be something different.  What you are seeing here in this nation through its healthcare system, is the development of a healthcare process, service, that can be revised through a new modality of sustainability in healthcare.  Similarly as education, there is no need to build different hospitals or schools; it is simply that you have different activities go on within those areas.  Healthcare and education are very similarly dysfunctional and irrational at some degree, in your nation and need to be radically revised.
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===='''''[[Sustainability]]''''', '''''[[Euthanasia]]'''''====
 
*Healthcare designed by co-creative design teams
 
*Healthcare designed by co-creative design teams
 
MMc:  I am not aware of any co-creative design teams that have worked on healthcare at this time.  (Monjoronson:  Unfortunately!)  Yes.  But I believe that one of the values necessary for sustainability would be quality of healthcare for everyone.
 
MMc:  I am not aware of any co-creative design teams that have worked on healthcare at this time.  (Monjoronson:  Unfortunately!)  Yes.  But I believe that one of the values necessary for sustainability would be quality of healthcare for everyone.
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MMc:  I understand, yes.
 
MMc:  I understand, yes.
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===='''''[[Collective Intelligence]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Collective Intelligence]]'''''====
 
MONJORONSON:  Do you understand the concept of remote computing?  Where an agency that has a huge mathematical problem uses the computer services of volunteers around the nation, and connects the computing power of hundreds, if not thousands of computers, throughout the 50 States, for example, to use them in unison for resolving highly complex and detailed computations for the resolution on huge mathematical problems.
 
MONJORONSON:  Do you understand the concept of remote computing?  Where an agency that has a huge mathematical problem uses the computer services of volunteers around the nation, and connects the computing power of hundreds, if not thousands of computers, throughout the 50 States, for example, to use them in unison for resolving highly complex and detailed computations for the resolution on huge mathematical problems.

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