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B: Is there a lesson for us today?

B: Is there a lesson for us today?

Foehn: Indeed there are many things to discuss today. You are in the presence of myself, Foehn; RondEL is at hand for questions....We are not in an observational session. Personal needs may be discussed. Needs for spiritual growth should be the limitations of this discussion.

Foehn: Indeed there are many things to [[discuss]] today. You are in the [[presence]] of myself, Foehn; RondEL is at hand for [[questions]]....We are not in an [[observational]] session. Personal needs may be [[discussed]]. Needs for [[spiritual growth]] should be the [[limitations]] of this discussion.

B: Do you have any Foehn you would like to say to us today as an opening, either to the group or to an individual?

B: Do you have anything Foehn you would like to say to us today as an opening, either to the [[group]] or to an [[individual]]?

Foehn: Anelia would like to step forward today. Go ahead Anelia....

Foehn: Anelia would like to step forward today. Go ahead Anelia....

Anelia:....My name is Anelia. I am in partnership with Foehn. I am to carry messages regarding the logistics of your plans.

Anelia:....My name is Anelia. I am in [[partnership]] with Foehn. I am to carry [[messages]] regarding the [[logistics]] of your [[plans]].

B: Yes Anelia.

B: Yes Anelia.

===Lesson===

===Lesson===

Anelia: You have done well in your communications with one another and you are to be commended....Your minds are gradually being prepared for more direct communication....Indeed there is a measure of discrepancy between our true impulse to you and what you may perceive. However, trust your perceptions, and go with the inner voice. It would be wise to listen intently and trust what you hear. Do not concern yourselves with discrepancies in interpretation. Discrepancies have been measured and are part of the plan....

Anelia: You have done well in your [[communications]] with one another and you are to be commended....Your [[minds]] are gradually being [[prepared]] for more direct [[communication]]....Indeed there is a measure of discrepancy between our true [[impulse]] to you and what you may [[perceive]]. However, [[trust]] your perceptions, and go with the inner voice. It would be [[wise]] to [[listen]] intently and trust what you hear. Do not concern yourselves with discrepancies in [[interpretation]]. Discrepancies have been measured and are part of the [[plan]]....

Do not be afraid to ask questions that will rely on faith in the interpretation of the answers that are given. Time-space relations are complex; you will never be able to ask questions within the limits of your language that could allow for the complete understanding of the answer, even if I was able to find ways other than verbal communication to answer these questions. You will have to rely on faith that through the progression of growth prepared for you after your completion of your walk on this planet that you will indeed graduate into understanding the interrelated activities of the Paradise ascension. Trust and faith and hope in the knowing must be the motivation in the growing.

Do not be [[afraid]] to ask questions that will rely on [[faith]] in the [[interpretation]] of the answers that are given. [[Time-space]] [[relations]] are [[complex]]; you will never be able to ask questions within the [[limits]] of your [[language]] that could allow for the complete [[understanding]] of the answer, even if I was able to find ways other than verbal [[communication]] to answer these questions. You will have to rely on [[faith]] that through the [[progression]] of [[growth]] [[prepared]] for you after your completion of your walk on [[this planet]] that you will indeed [[graduate]] into understanding the interrelated activities of the [[Paradise]] [[ascension]]. [[Trust]] and [[faith]] and [[hope]] in the knowing must be the [[motivation]] in the growing.

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

B: Anelia, I have been trying to write on the subject of growth. Using the language of the Urantia Book, progress is defined as the addition of new meaning to experience; growth is defined as felt perception of value, and the perception of new meanings of these values. Could you say more about the feeling dimension, the notion that quality or value is something that is "felt" as is said in the Book. This is an ongoing question for me and for many. What more can you say about the role of feeling in soul development?

B: Anelia, I have been trying to write on the subject of [[growth]]. Using the [[language]] of the [[Urantia Book]], [[progress]] is defined as the addition of new [[meaning]] to [[experience]]; growth is defined as felt [[perception]] of [[value]], and the perception of new [[meanings]] of these values. Could you say more about the feeling [[dimension]], the notion that [[quality]] or [[value]] is something that is "felt" as is said in [[the Book]]. This is an ongoing question for me and for many. What more can you say about the role of [[feeling]] in [[soul development]]?

Anelia: I will turn this question, which is not a logistical one, over to a woman, a feminine presence. Josephine has been prepared for such an occasion....

Anelia: I will turn this question, which is not a [[logistical]] one, over to a [[woman]], a [[feminine]] presence. Josephine has been [[prepared]] for such an occasion....

Josephine:....As I look upon you I see one who has a great deal of respect for the impact words may have on one another. This respect is one of the values to be discussed. Yet the emotion resulting from respect is fear. Fear is the emotion which interplays with the value of respect. Many of you could do good to contemplate on the times that fear keeps you from respecting others. The differences in your approach to situations is one of values. Remember that values are interplayed with culture. Your value system keeps the people on this planet at a level of conflict. Yet the emotions that make you brothers in this world result from fear of the loss of respect for each other's values. As diverse as the cultures of your peoples are there is a goal to reach a level of respect on this planet in the diversity of culture, not however in the diversity of values....

Josephine:....As I look upon you I see one who has a great deal of [[respect]] for the [[impact]] [[words]] may have on one another. This respect is one of the [[values]] to be [[discussed]]. Yet the [[emotion]] resulting from respect is [[fear]]. Fear is the [[emotion]] which interplays with the [[value]] of [[respect]]. Many of you could do good to [[contemplate]] on the times that fear keeps you from respecting others. The [[differences]] in your approach to situations is one of [[values]]. Remember that [[values]] are interplayed with [[culture]]. Your value system keeps the people on [[this planet]] at a level of [[conflict]]. Yet the [[emotions]] that make you [[brothers]] in this world result from fear of the loss of respect for each other's [[values]]. As [[diverse]] as the [[cultures]] of your peoples are there is a [[goal]] to reach a level of respect on [[this planet]] in the [[diversity]] of [[culture]], not however in the diversity of [[values]]....

B: I understand you to mean that values are something apart from culture. Culture is an arena in which individuals discover or select values, which they embody in everyday life. But the values are something that comes from above, that are from God, that are self-existing; they are not invented, they are discovered. But there is a differential in discovery across cultures and of course across individuals. Is that at least a partial restatement of what you mean?

B: I [[understand]] you to mean that values are something apart from [[culture]]. Culture is an arena in which [[individuals]] [[discover]] or select [[values]], which they embody in everyday life. But the values are something that comes from above, that are from [[God]], that are self-existing; they are not invented, they are [[discovered]]. But there is a differential in [[discovery]] across [[cultures]] and of course across [[individuals]]. Is that at least a partial restatement of what you mean?

Josephine: Indeed, perhaps if I draw you a picture. Consider the seed -- the soul -- planted in the soil of oneness. As it takes root, it branches out in many directions. As it comes across a rock, it is forced to choose another path. As it searches for nourishment it grows deep and wide, and occasionally it tops the surface and must resume its search in another direction as it realizes the error of its growth.

Josephine: Indeed, perhaps if I draw you a picture. Consider the [[seed]] -- the [[soul]] -- planted in the soil of oneness. As it takes root, it branches out in many [[directions]]. As it comes across a rock, it is forced to choose another [[path]]. As it searches for nourishment it [[grows]] deep and wide, and occasionally it tops the [[surface]] and must resume its search in another [[direction]] as it [[realizes]] the [[error]] of its [[growth]].

As the seed flourishes into a young plant it is faced with the influences of its environment. Not only must it endure atmospheric influences, it must fear the feet of those who tread upon it, and it must offer itself as nourishment to those who may need it. But yet it continues to grow, protected by the elements of chance that it will become a fully mature plant.

As the [[seed]] flourishes into a young [[plant]] it is faced with the influences of its [[environment]]. Not only must it [[endure]] atmospheric influences, it must fear the feet of those who tread upon it, and it must offer itself as nourishment to those who may need it. But yet it continues to [[grow]], protected by the elements of [[chance]] that it will become a fully [[mature]] plant.

The roots symbolize your planet. You have areas of fertile ground, which offer good homestead for your families. As the plant grows, you can see it is merely a development of its seed. It is not miraculous that it grows; growth is merely part of its make-up. The shape of growth, however, the bend of the stem, the number of its leaves, its color and its fruit, however, symbolize the many aspects we must understand in the makeup of your people.

The [[roots]] [[symbolize]] [[your planet]]. You have areas of [[fertile]] ground, which offer good homestead for your [[families]]. As the plant grows, you can see it is merely a development of its [[seed]]. It is not [[miraculous]] that it grows; [[growth]] is merely part of its make-up. The shape of growth, however, the bend of the stem, the number of its leaves, its [[color]] and its fruit, however, [[symbolize]] the many aspects we must [[understand]] in the makeup of your people.

Consider the stem to be your body. You have been placed on this planet and you must grow. As you reach out, you begin to express yourself in the culture that you have been planted in. Yet, within you feel a need to stretch one way and seek sunlight in another. This is the value I express in this analogy. Plants search for sun; you search for truth. As all plants search for sun, all men search for truth. This truth-seeking nature is indeed one which sources itself from spiritual fertilization.

Consider the stem to be your [[body]]. You have been placed on [[this planet]] and you must [[grow]]. As you reach out, you begin to [[express]] yourself in the [[culture]] that you have been planted in. Yet, within you [[feel]] a need to stretch one way and seek sunlight in another. This is the [[value]] I express in this [[analogy]]. Plants search for [[sun]]; you search for [[truth]]. As all plants search for [[sun]], all men search for [[truth]]. This truth-seeking [[nature]] is indeed one which sources itself from spiritual [[fertilization]].

The value-system is intertwined with your own capacity to interpret the will of God within you. Indeed it is a fine line between the inherent capacities of your genetic make up and the spiritual capacities of your worshipful nature. Values are not totally spiritual as a result. Yet within them is a fragment of superimposed manifestations of God's potential for you.

The [[value]]-system is intertwined with your own [[capacity]] to [[interpret]] the will of [[God within]] you. Indeed it is a fine line between the inherent [[capacities]] of your [[genetic]] make up and the spiritual [[capacities]] of your [[worshipful]] nature. [[Values]] are not totally spiritual as a result. Yet within them is a [[fragment]] of superimposed [[manifestations]] of God's [[potential]] for you.

The fruit of this growth is what we as a body are trying to nurture. It is not the kind of fruit, or the taste, that is our goal. Simply, we must want [?] for the productivity of your beings....we simply cannot allow growth without fruit.

The fruit of this [[growth]] is what we as a body are trying to [[nurture]]. It is not the kind of fruit, or the [[taste]], that is our [[goal]]. [[Simply]], we must want [?] for the [[productivity]] of your beings....we simply cannot allow [[growth]] without fruit.

E: Josephine, that was beautiful.

E: Josephine, that was [[beautiful]].

Josephine: My child, when you listen to my word, do not fear that you will fail me. Your respect for my communication is indeed noted. Your culture has taught you this. And this is our dilemma. Although you may choose words that were not exactly mine, your mind and mine are attuned to each other.

Josephine: My child, when you listen to my [[word]], do not fear that you will fail me. Your [[respect]] for my [[communication]] is indeed noted. Your [[culture]] has taught you this. And this is our [[dilemma]]. Although you may choose [[words]] that were not exactly mine, your [[mind]] and mine are [[attuned]] to each other.

The feelings that I have been chosen to try and teach are indeed very much felt by the feminine race on this planet. The differences between the sexes are considered in great depth and it is true that those of those who have felt the emotions can best describe them.

The [[feelings]] that I have been chosen to try and teach are indeed very much felt by the [[feminine]] race on [[this planet]]. The differences between the sexes are [[considered]] in great depth and it is true that those of those who have felt the [[emotions]] can best describe them.

Many men do not allow these emotions to be felt. It is not because they are men that they are not chosen to approach this topic; it is because they must be able to relate the expression of this wordless language in order to best teach. When you listen to my word it is nice that you want to be exact in your interpretation, but it is not necessary, for it is truly a language without words. Your feelings and mine are in tune.

Many men do not allow these [[emotions]] to be felt. It is not because they are men that they are not chosen to approach this [[topic]]; it is because they must be able to relate the [[expression]] of this wordless [[language]] in order to best teach. When you [[listen]] to my word it is nice that you want to be [[exact]] in your [[interpretation]], but it is not necessary, for it is truly a [[language]] without [[words]]. Your [[feelings]] and mine are in tune.

Do not be overwhelmed by the outflow of these emotions. Many of them are necessary; some are not, though, however. It would be wise for you to find ways to express these emotions productively. Trust your sense of my presence through emotion, for this is what you truly are gifted with. This blessing will serve our mission.

Do not be overwhelmed by the outflow of these [[emotions]]. Many of them are [[necessary]]; some are not, though, however. It would be [[wise]] for you to find ways to [[express]] these emotions productively. [[Trust]] your sense of my [[presence]] through [[emotion]], for this is what you truly are gifted with. This [[blessing]] will serve our mission.

E: Ok, thank you....

E: Ok, thank you....

B: I wanted to say hello to RondEL, and welcome you and see if you have teaching for us, or for me, or have comments on our discussion today.

B: I wanted to say hello to RondEL, and welcome you and see if you have teaching for us, or for me, or have comments on our [[discussion]] today.

Son, you have indeed done well. In this past few days I have been pleased with your progress. I must apologize for the impact I had in my last message. [This refers to a previous transmission to the group that was not taped]. I have been inconsiderate in conveying [tape ends here]....I am at one with your thinking and have prepared answers for your question. My emphasis on the need for organizational preparation was perhaps too strong, considering your current state....Your questions are many. Please begin.

Son, you have indeed done well. In this past few days I have been pleased with your [[progress]]. I must apologize for the [[impact]] I had in my last [[message]]. [This refers to a previous transmission to the group that was not taped]. I have been inconsiderate in conveying [tape ends here]....I am at one with your [[thinking]] and have prepared answers for your question. My [[emphasis]] on the need for [[organizational]] [[preparation]] was perhaps too strong, considering your current state....Your questions are many. Please begin.

B: When I address you in prayer, may I assume that you are aware?

B: When I address you in [[prayer]], may I assume that you are [[aware]]?

The Father has chosen me to help many like you. I have been assigned to work with those who have the capacity to see plans set in to action. You are a steadfast personality. Although you may waver in temporary confusion, your underlying goals are in tune with the Father.

[[The Father]] has [[chosen]] me to help many like you. I have been [[assigned]] to work with those who have the [[capacity]] to see plans set in to [[action]]. You are a [[steadfast]] [[personality]]. Although you may waver in temporary [[confusion]], your underlying [[goals]] are in tune with [[the Father]].

When you pray, you may ask of me. However, I am not always present. Your words are never lost. All aspects of your experiences which deal with this Mission are precious. I do not have a place in your personal experiences, and I have limits to the amount of information I can provide you above and beyond what is necessary for our specific assignment. In answer to your question, at times, yes, I am present and hearing your prayers. However, I am specifically only allowed access to what is necessary for my use in this assignment....

When you pray, you may ask of me. However, I am not always present. Your [[words]] are never lost. All aspects of your [[experiences]] which deal with [[this Mission]] are precious. I do not have a place in your [[personal]] [[experiences]], and I have [[limits]] to the amount of [[information]] I can provide you above and beyond what is [[necessary]] for our specific [[assignment]]. In answer to your question, at times, yes, I am present and hearing your [[prayers]]. However, I am specifically only allowed [[access]] to what is [[necessary]] for my use in this [[assignment]]....

 

==Session 4==

==Session 4==

4/4/93 Transmission

4/4/93 Transmission