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G2: Yeah, I know a lot of times you hear in the media about selling your [[soul]] to the [[devil]], do you know where that term came from?
 
G2: Yeah, I know a lot of times you hear in the media about selling your [[soul]] to the [[devil]], do you know where that term came from?
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Iruka: Of course it is in [[folklore]], when somebody wants something very badly and the [[story]] is that the [[devil]] will grant them their [[wish]] for whatever it is, but gets the [[soul]]. This is for people who believe in [[hell]], in a place of eternal torment. But this should have no [[meaning]] to you anymore, because you know that it doesn't exist and even [[Lucifer]] and [[Satan]] don't exist anymore. So it is more of a [[mythology]], of a folklore type of thing and really has no place in your [[understanding]] of [[the Father]]. Does this help?
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Iruka: Of course it is in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folklore folklore], when somebody wants something very badly and the [[story]] is that the [[devil]] will grant them their [[wish]] for whatever it is, but gets the [[soul]]. This is for people who believe in [[hell]], in a place of eternal torment. But this should have no [[meaning]] to you anymore, because you know that it doesn't exist and even [[Lucifer]] and [[Satan]] don't exist anymore. So it is more of a [[mythology]], of a folklore type of thing and really has no place in your [[understanding]] of [[the Father]]. Does this help?
    
G2: Yes it does, I have one more question. I know last week we were [[reading]] in [[the papers]] of that other group, and I was wondering, when a person from one of the Urantia groups that is on this level, [[decides]] to deviate...well that is not the proper term, they stray from [[listening]] to the [[teacher]] all the time. Can that develop a certain...I guess the best [[parable]] I can think of is the movie '[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars Star Wars]' where the boy Luke was in [[training]] and he left before he was completely trained mentally and physically. Can something worse become of not becoming totally [[oriented]] or..am I making sense with my question?
 
G2: Yes it does, I have one more question. I know last week we were [[reading]] in [[the papers]] of that other group, and I was wondering, when a person from one of the Urantia groups that is on this level, [[decides]] to deviate...well that is not the proper term, they stray from [[listening]] to the [[teacher]] all the time. Can that develop a certain...I guess the best [[parable]] I can think of is the movie '[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars Star Wars]' where the boy Luke was in [[training]] and he left before he was completely trained mentally and physically. Can something worse become of not becoming totally [[oriented]] or..am I making sense with my question?
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Iruka: I [[understand]] your question much better now. In that case, the [[person]] would have stopped [[listening]] to [[the Father]] obviously. Because if he is saying things that the Father would not say....you have to [[listen]] to the [[words]]. If the words do not match up with what [[the Father]] would say, then you know something is wrong. And if somebody says something that is not right, obviously he is no longer [[listening]] to [[the Father]]. And so yes, a person can...that can happen. Your [[ego]] can get mixed up in there. Are you [[expressing]] a fear that this can happen?
 
Iruka: I [[understand]] your question much better now. In that case, the [[person]] would have stopped [[listening]] to [[the Father]] obviously. Because if he is saying things that the Father would not say....you have to [[listen]] to the [[words]]. If the words do not match up with what [[the Father]] would say, then you know something is wrong. And if somebody says something that is not right, obviously he is no longer [[listening]] to [[the Father]]. And so yes, a person can...that can happen. Your [[ego]] can get mixed up in there. Are you [[expressing]] a fear that this can happen?
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G2: No I am expressing a [[fear]] of trying to separate what is my [[thought adjuster]], what is my [[teacher]], and what is me.
 
G2: No I am expressing a [[fear]] of trying to separate what is my [[thought adjuster]], what is my [[teacher]], and what is me.

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