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Bob: I'd have to say that I am not sure that I have that [[balanced]]. I didn't particularly seek that, so that if it happened it was the result of something else. Maybe subconsciously I sought to move away from materialistic [[ideals]] that I am sure were extremely important to me when I was younger. And now they don't seem to be as important to me, so from that point of view I guess I have made a move to at least bring them relatively into [[balance]]. From my own point of view I think it must be the result of trying to grow [[spiritually]]. If one is able to do that, this other stuff (the balance between spiritual and material things) seems to fall into place. I'd be interested in your [[thought]] on my [[ideals]].

Bob: I'd have to say that I am not sure that I have that [[balanced]]. I didn't particularly seek that, so that if it happened it was the result of something else. Maybe subconsciously I sought to move away from materialistic [[ideals]] that I am sure were extremely important to me when I was younger. And now they don't seem to be as important to me, so from that point of view I guess I have made a move to at least bring them relatively into [[balance]]. From my own point of view I think it must be the result of trying to grow [[spiritually]]. If one is able to do that, this other stuff (the balance between spiritual and material things) seems to fall into place. I'd be interested in your [[thought]] on my [[ideals]].

Ken: I agree with you that the [[material]] goals that we have when we are younger basically are not [[important]] today. But I don't feel I am in [[balance]]. I feel like I'm on a seesaw, but on a seesaw you can [[achieve]] and balance. But my spiritual never quite achieves my material yet. And that is kind of the [[goal]], to balance the two, but I am going up and down. There are moments when I think that I would like to win the lottery, but then upon deeper [[contemplation]] and thinking I would much rather have [[spiritual growth]] and [[understanding]] and a relationship with [[the Father]] than I would the material end of things. And through the [[Teaching Mission]], through the [[Urantia Book]], and through friends such as you (all), we can achieve part of that balance, part of that understanding that we need. (Banter.) You always have that desire for [[harmony]] in you life, and it has been growing. (More banter.) It is like (when) the industrial age and the Urantia Book came into being about the same time frame, and now the spiritual aspect is beginning to swing into prominence in the world. We are beginning to see it more and more. You have to look for it, but it is there.

Ken: I agree with you that the [[material]] goals that we have when we are younger basically are not important today. But I don't feel I am in [[balance]]. I feel like I'm on a seesaw, but on a seesaw you can [[achieve]] and balance. But my spiritual never quite achieves my material yet. And that is kind of the [[goal]], to balance the two, but I am going up and down. There are moments when I think that I would like to win the lottery, but then upon deeper [[contemplation]] and thinking I would much rather have [[spiritual growth]] and [[understanding]] and a relationship with [[the Father]] than I would the material end of things. And through the [[Teaching Mission]], through the [[Urantia Book]], and through friends such as you (all), we can achieve part of that balance, part of that understanding that we need. (Banter.) You always have that desire for [[harmony]] in you life, and it has been growing. (More banter.) It is like (when) the industrial age and the Urantia Book came into being about the same time frame, and now the spiritual aspect is beginning to swing into prominence in the world. We are beginning to see it more and more. You have to look for it, but it is there.

Bill: I thought the question was how are we maintaining the [[balance]]. (Discussion.)

Bill: I thought the question was how are we maintaining the [[balance]]. (Discussion.)

Roxie: Thank you. That really is helpful to me.

Roxie: Thank you. That really is helpful to me.

===Closing===

===Closing===

Daniel (Bill): My friends, the time has come, and we have enjoyed our [[visit]]. Ponder in your [[hearts]] the [[question]] that I asked you, and if you feel that you are ready to respond in the [[future]], perhaps even as soon as next week, I will allow some time for that [[opportunity]]. And now again would you stand and join hands.

Daniel (Bill): My friends, the time has come, and we have enjoyed our [[visit]]. Ponder in your [[hearts]] the [[question]] that I asked you, and if you feel that you are ready to respond in the [[future]], perhaps even as soon as next week, I will allow some time for that [[opportunity]]. And now again would you stand and join hands.