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Tomas; Merium; Daniel - Acknowledgment of Great Need - Apr 15, 1997 - Butler, PA

 

DATE: April 15, 1997

===Topic: Acknowledgment of Great Need===

===Group: Butler TeaM===

T/R: Gerdean and Hunnah

===Teachers: Tomas; Merium; Daniel===

 

===TR's: Gerdean & Hunnah===

 

 

MERIUM: I am Merium and I would like to use the metaphor of a cup, briefly. It is bewildering to us sometimes why this richness that comes in doesn't linger long. It is because your cup is being enlarged. You will be able to have a greater capacity. Do not be hard on yourselves. The human condition is a whining child, a bewildered child. We come together to remind each other that we are becoming new in Christ. We are new, and you are allowed to be renewed. We bring you both comfort and good cheer. One moment, please.

MERIUM: I am Merium and I would like to use the metaphor of a cup, briefly. It is bewildering to us sometimes why this richness that comes in doesn't linger long. It is because your cup is being enlarged. You will be able to have a greater capacity. Do not be hard on yourselves. The human condition is a whining child, a bewildered child. We come together to remind each other that we are becoming new in Christ. We are new, and you are allowed to be renewed. We bring you both comfort and good cheer. One moment, please.

I am using Hunnah's reserves this evening. It seems as if the lessons repeat themselves again and again and you weary from it, but what you do not understand is that you are also being strengthened because you catch yourself now, whereas before you may not have. You will venture into the wrong area, yes, but you will not remain there as long.

I am using Hunnah's reserves this evening. It seems as if the lessons repeat themselves again and again and you weary from it, but what you do not understand is that you are also being strengthened because you catch yourself now, whereas before you may not have. You will venture into the wrong area, yes, but you will not remain there as long.

TOMAS: It is time now that we ventured into your area. Have you questions to present for our discussion? Have you concerns that you would bring to your teachers and your peers for sharing?

TOMAS: It is time now that we ventured into your area. Have you questions to present for our discussion? Have you concerns that you would bring to your teachers and your peers for sharing?

Hunnah: Tell us... I'm stepping out of my Merium mode. This is Hunnah.

Hunnah: Tell us... I'm stepping out of my Merium mode. This is Hunnah.

TOMAS: Yes, Hunnah.

TOMAS: Yes, Hunnah.

Hunnah: There is a concern for our need to feel and measure progress all the time. You lavish your praise upon us. We are constantly faced by the challenges of the limitations of our material goods, and the basic needs. How do we keep from keeping ourselves in a state of need? It is so difficult. Can you take it from there?

Hunnah: There is a concern for our need to feel and measure progress all the time. You lavish your praise upon us. We are constantly faced by the challenges of the limitations of our material goods, and the basic needs. How do we keep from keeping ourselves in a state of need? It is so difficult. Can you take it from there?

TOMAS: Proceed.

TOMAS: Proceed.

Hunnah: I have met people lately who have been bewildered by their inability to get "grounded." It is as if sometimes life is so painful you don't really want to -- they want to be in the lofty place all the time and being back on the ground in daily grind is just so traumatic for them they don't want to stay; they want to fly. And I was talking with someone today about the human condition reaction if a person is threatened, to either fight or flight, and so we have this paradox: we have the fighters and the ones that want to put their wings on and leave the situation, and here in this room we have three people who have experienced both conditions. But the ones who want to remain in the lofty realm, suffer just as greatly as those who can't seem to get up off the heaviness of human dependency.

Hunnah: I have met people lately who have been bewildered by their inability to get "grounded." It is as if sometimes life is so painful you don't really want to -- they want to be in the lofty place all the time and being back on the ground in daily grind is just so traumatic for them they don't want to stay; they want to fly. And I was talking with someone today about the human condition reaction if a person is threatened, to either fight or flight, and so we have this paradox: we have the fighters and the ones that want to put their wings on and leave the situation, and here in this room we have three people who have experienced both conditions. But the ones who want to remain in the lofty realm, suffer just as greatly as those who can't seem to get up off the heaviness of human dependency.

Everyone is receiving their own assignment, and for those who lift the assignment up, they are the ones who will develop the benefit from it, those that count their blessings, watch for new opportunities and allow themselves to be strengthened by the great or the little amount of faith that they have. It is a time of growth, of expansion. It is to be used that way or it can be a time of heaping more burdens upon themselves and staying in the dark a little longer.

Everyone is receiving their own assignment, and for those who lift the assignment up, they are the ones who will develop the benefit from it, those that count their blessings, watch for new opportunities and allow themselves to be strengthened by the great or the little amount of faith that they have. It is a time of growth, of expansion. It is to be used that way or it can be a time of heaping more burdens upon themselves and staying in the dark a little longer.

TOMAS: I have been as burgeoned with as much "stuff" as you have been and I would like to address some of your "stuff" with some of my "stuff," for that is what we do -- we share our inner life, and as you experience and express what you are going through, we express our part and we are family doing our part, as you said.

TOMAS: I have been as burgeoned with as much "stuff" as you have been and I would like to address some of your "stuff" with some of my "stuff," for that is what we do -- we share our inner life, and as you experience and express what you are going through, we express our part and we are family doing our part, as you said.

And now I would like to discuss that concept that was brought up recently, that being: presuming upon divine mercy. I bring it up because of the earlier sharing and also because of a question that was asked outside of session one day that we noted. Today, for example, it would appear as though Gerdean lost her temper and assaulted verbally a person that she had intended to provide service for, and before she or you think ill of her for her outrage, I will bring to your mind the truth about "presuming upon divine mercy."

And now I would like to discuss that concept that was brought up recently, that being: presuming upon divine mercy. I bring it up because of the earlier sharing and also because of a question that was asked outside of session one day that we noted. Today, for example, it would appear as though Gerdean lost her temper and assaulted verbally a person that she had intended to provide service for, and before she or you think ill of her for her outrage, I will bring to your mind the truth about "presuming upon divine mercy."

Hunnah: I have a suggestion that we have numbers like at the bakery, or at the meat counter, and that will keep us from hogging each other's space, but there is something I've just got to talk about here and then, Leah, it'll be you. In my work it is very important to involve the recipient of the service into some independent action solving their problem.

Hunnah: I have a suggestion that we have numbers like at the bakery, or at the meat counter, and that will keep us from hogging each other's space, but there is something I've just got to talk about here and then, Leah, it'll be you. In my work it is very important to involve the recipient of the service into some independent action solving their problem.

Managed home care is absolutely the big gun right now, that is forcing people to say, "can I really afford the luxury of a long recovery?" and this luxury of being in a recuperative state, longer than what they consider necessary, is no longer in tempo now, and it is amazing, you will -- the shoe has gotten smaller in the sense that they are given an ultimatum: "you have X number of days in which to rally" and for some reason, this will kick in, and that person will find themselves healing in less time than they would have before. It will permit that person to involve him or herself in a positive way so that the task is accomplished (and for some reason or another, I'm not very good at applying that in my own personal life), but it is something will be happening in some aspects of our lives - not lounging in a particular mode, but that there will be action, especially for those who wish for divine assistance.

Managed home care is absolutely the big gun right now, that is forcing people to say, "can I really afford the luxury of a long recovery?" and this luxury of being in a recuperative state, longer than what they consider necessary, is no longer in tempo now, and it is amazing, you will -- the shoe has gotten smaller in the sense that they are given an ultimatum: "you have X number of days in which to rally" and for some reason, this will kick in, and that person will find themselves healing in less time than they would have before. It will permit that person to involve him or herself in a positive way so that the task is accomplished (and for some reason or another, I'm not very good at applying that in my own personal life), but it is something will be happening in some aspects of our lives - not lounging in a particular mode, but that there will be action, especially for those who wish for divine assistance.

I tell you, when I am off-line, you chatter so fluidly! And then I come along and … I am beginning to feel as if I was ignorant of how to be a conversationalist. I make the suggestion that you provide commentary, and it sounds like a drill sergeant. I understand the method of transmitting sometimes lends itself to this staccato voice, but I am not staccato in my spirit or in my understanding appreciation of you, my fellows. Feel free to engage me. I enjoy our repartee. Leah, why are you so quiet this evening?

I tell you, when I am off-line, you chatter so fluidly! And then I come along and … I am beginning to feel as if I was ignorant of how to be a conversationalist. I make the suggestion that you provide commentary, and it sounds like a drill sergeant. I understand the method of transmitting sometimes lends itself to this staccato voice, but I am not staccato in my spirit or in my understanding appreciation of you, my fellows. Feel free to engage me. I enjoy our repartee. Leah, why are you so quiet this evening?

Leah: Well, it has something to do with the discourse you just gave and fear of rejection. I have a question on my mind, but there is the fear that it's going to be — it doesn't really concern you and it's a curiosity question, but it does concern me, it's weighing on my mind.

Leah: Well, it has something to do with the discourse you just gave and fear of rejection. I have a question on my mind, but there is the fear that it's going to be — it doesn't really concern you and it's a curiosity question, but it does concern me, it's weighing on my mind.

MERIUM: Thank you for being willing to share that. I might add that no question is a foolish question; no question should be regarded as too embarrassing for the group. Tomas is especially skilled at taking a question and lifting it up and making it a valid and useful tool, and we do encourage you to express it if you have something you would like to have discussed.

MERIUM: Thank you for being willing to share that. I might add that no question is a foolish question; no question should be regarded as too embarrassing for the group. Tomas is especially skilled at taking a question and lifting it up and making it a valid and useful tool, and we do encourage you to express it if you have something you would like to have discussed.

Anna: Tomas?

Anna: Tomas?

TOMAS: I find your suggestion very advantageous. Your intermissions have long provided us with fodder for our discussions, and as you express and reveal yourself to others, you also express and reveal yourself to yourself, thereby gaining greater insight. I like your suggestion, but I will remind you that when you allow yourself to be vulnerable and place your feelings and thoughts on the table, on display, you risk judgment from those who forget that they are not here to judge, and so let us timorously approach that enterprise and see if we can get into the swing of it. If these matters can be brought to the table in full understanding that there will not be judgment to bear, then we will have sincere sharing of the inner life, indeed, and we will have such a marvelous community of purpose.

TOMAS: I find your suggestion very advantageous. Your intermissions have long provided us with fodder for our discussions, and as you express and reveal yourself to others, you also express and reveal yourself to yourself, thereby gaining greater insight. I like your suggestion, but I will remind you that when you allow yourself to be vulnerable and place your feelings and thoughts on the table, on display, you risk judgment from those who forget that they are not here to judge, and so let us timorously approach that enterprise and see if we can get into the swing of it. If these matters can be brought to the table in full understanding that there will not be judgment to bear, then we will have sincere sharing of the inner life, indeed, and we will have such a marvelous community of purpose.

Beloved flock, dear friends, and delightful children, we bid you a fond farewell until we meet again.

Beloved flock, dear friends, and delightful children, we bid you a fond farewell until we meet again.