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This is a time of great hope; this is a time of great achieving.  The events around you move so slowly that you have not seen them; they are just as visible as those values in you that are so self-evident once you begin to look for them.  As your Planetary Manager, it is only because of you and through you and by you and with you that we will overcome the challenges with the hope that we have in our hearts and you have in your hearts.  Good day.
 
This is a time of great hope; this is a time of great achieving.  The events around you move so slowly that you have not seen them; they are just as visible as those values in you that are so self-evident once you begin to look for them.  As your Planetary Manager, it is only because of you and through you and by you and with you that we will overcome the challenges with the hope that we have in our hearts and you have in your hearts.  Good day.
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==Comments==
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==Comments 5/22/19==
 
1. "Politics is the expression of separation."
 
1. "Politics is the expression of separation."
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Comment: Many have no use for the flattery so prevalent in this document as it is unbecoming given its association with insincerity and self-deception. --rdavis 03:00, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 
Comment: Many have no use for the flattery so prevalent in this document as it is unbecoming given its association with insincerity and self-deception. --rdavis 03:00, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Chris Carmichael replied'''
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May 22, 2019, 1:38 AM (5 days ago)
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Hi Rob,
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Thank you kindly for your invitation to comment. As a NOCO team
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participant, who also makes a backup recording, I have for some time
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wished I could add a comment or two under some of the transcripts.
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The way your are doing it seems ideal - that it is clear they are not
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part of the transcript or the session itself, but are "footnotes" to
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it.
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Daniel has been having allergies/hay fever and he himself thinks his
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transmissions are not as clear as usual. Machiventa himself warned of
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it as we started the last session yesterday (#64) and alluded also to
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the previous session (#63), and reminded us that we should always use
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our own discernment. And of course these long sessions are in general
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tiring to Daniel.
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And a couple of times on political questions I've asked I've thought
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that Daniel's American bias/preconceptions probably badly distorted
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the response. (I could of course be wrong.)
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I have 2 notes on NET #63.
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NET #63: While "North America" was what was said, of course it was
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Asia that the Japanese wanted to conquer. That's what they were busily
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doing. (I think Daniel, suffering hay fever, absently used the wrong
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word. While celestial messages are obviously coming through the best
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channellers relatively clearly, they are still concepts being phrased
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into sentences by a conscious human, co-creatively.)
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NET#63: A passage placed in italics in the transcript "This is
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irrational to us."  - was not emphasized by Machiventa. Indeed there
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was a slight hesitation before the word "irrational" was used (as if
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'for lack of a better word').
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And here's another note... if the database is now easy to search...
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because I can't remember the session number (NET#59,60,61?)... the
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subject was microwave exposure. We were talking about the new "5G" and
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it was (I believe) suggested we were approaching unsafe limits that
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might come in "5.5G, 6G or 7G". This was edited to "5G, 6G or 7G" in
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the transcript, but that is confusing because we already have "5G".
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I know there are other notes I would like to have made, but they are
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from farther back in the past and are not coming to mind at the
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moment.
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Again thanks,
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Best,
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Craig
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==Comments 5/23/19==
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*'''Rob replied 8:10pm'''
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Hello Craig!
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You're welcome as it is always helpful to discuss these materials. I am glad you approve of using the discussion  pages (also called talk pages) for any comments. I can't help but think anyone reading either of these would more likely appreciate the fact that real human beings do think about these.
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I am sorry to hear of Daniiel's physical difficulties. No doubt, the functionality of our bodies definitely influences the  capacity of the mind to operate on any level, let alone on the higher levels of spirit interface. However, I am assured that when the real need is there to receive, spirit can break through any barriers.
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Thanks for sharing your notes on a few lessons. Given your thoughts on the value of the discussion pages, am I correct that you might like to have your notes included in the respective pages? Regardless, it is good to hear from you, as sharing thoughts, often from different perspectives, only enhances understanding.
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Gratefully,
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Rob
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==Comments 5/24/19/==
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*'''Craig replied 12:09amPT'''
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Hi Rob,
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Yes by all means please post my comments wherever you think well. That
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hearing more perspectives broadens everyone's perspective is my view
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as well, and it has been dawning on me that being on the NOCO sessions
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has given me a rather unique one worth sharing.
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Hay fever season will end.
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I have occasionally noted recurrence by Machiventa to a subject for
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clarification or subtle correction in a later session when the
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previous answer seemed unclear or not quite in tune with something.
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And in [[Michel Levasseur]]'s "Atmospheric Management" document I noted a
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list of a bunch of polluting fossil fuels to stop burning, and wood
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was in the list. Since we have burned wood since Andon and Fonta (and
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I have burned wood most of my adult life for heat), I asked about
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burning wood in a NET session without reference to Michel's document,
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and was reassured that there was no objection to it being used for
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heating homes and cooking. Michel probably just threw "wood" into his
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list of "things we burn" without noticing it wasn't part of the
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transmitted list. He also said something to the effect that stresses
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on the atmosphere will lessen with the population drop, which sounded
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less "apocalyptic" than in Michel's transmission.
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What all that was about was to say that misconceptions and puzzles
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created by the receiver, by ambiguity of language, or even by the
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editor, can and do seem to get corrected or answered eventually, in a
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quiet manner, if it's important.
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After what I wrote to you yesterday, I've just now written to [[George
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Barnard]] pointing out the same badly translated passage, and
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volunteered to check over Michel's machine translated English in
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future if there's no one who speaks more French than me available to
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do it. He sent me so much material when we first connected I thought
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I'd be overwhelmed if I volunteered to do so, but it's slowed to a
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trickle.
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Regards,
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Craig
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*'''Craig replied 3:20amPT'''
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Hi Rob,
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I suddenly remembered one of the sessions I especially wanted to make
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notes on was for was [[2018-11-19-New Era Transition 51|NET #51]]. Roxie seemed to have misheard an unusual
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number of things. I sent her a number of significant edits, but too
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late for them to be included.
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I typed out a number of notes of the most significant ones...
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...but I started thinking it might just be better to send you an
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entire revised transcript, as there are so many minor changes - words
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missed or misheard - along with the more important ones. What do you
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think? In fact, I'll attach it and you can look it over and do what
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you like with it.
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I can also send you a draft transcript showing areas for change with
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colored background text by Roxie and by me, if that is of interest to
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see what most of the changes are.
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My notes are also below.
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Cheers,
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Craig
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''Notes on [[2018-11-19-New Era Transition 51|NET #51]] by Craig''
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Owing to circumstances this transcript had a few glitches - things
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misheard. In the interests of clearing up any potential confusion, I
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make these notes:
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1. Under the heading "Self-sustainability of cities", "food" was in
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the sentence.
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...provision for its material FOOD source, energy, water treatment, and so on...
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2. Under the heading "Not having power to control situations", the
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recording was misheard.
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Do you have highly influential people WHO HAVE THE EAR of those people
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who are making those decisions... ?
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3. Under the heading "Mental, spiritual and physical health and life span"
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The second sentence of Stephane's question read: "Do we have with all
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the recent discoveries, and the knowledge we have on many aspects of
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our physical health, do we have enough to live much longer than we do
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now?"
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5. Under the heading "Can we be infused with more violet blood?", the
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first sentence was:
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My question is can the gaps from the less than perfect infusion of the
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violet blood physically, can that be remedied or can that be filled
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through genetic engineering?
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==Comments 5/26/19==
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*'''Rob replied 9:40amMT'''
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Craig, thank you for your willingness to be part of discussion page. When I upload it, I will send you the link for review and/or revision if you feel it is needed, although all edits are recorded as part of the history as well.
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Celestial beings can only transmit through TR’s what is already in their mind though they use the best that is available for augmentation. As such, I see the transmissions as no different from any literature except for their use of direct attribution to a discarnate source. The work remains to be read for its own merits without regard to attribution.
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I am reminded of Abraham’s statement that “the time is long past on this planet when religion can be promulgated by asserting the authority of the teacher.” Not that Daniel is promulgating religion given his near exclusive focus on the outer world of material mechanics instead of the inner life of spiritual dynamics. (tardy note: it was [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1992-01-00-Will#Session_23 Will not Abraham])
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