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Teacher: Yes, and as I have said, you may [[receive]] an answer not in the [[manner]] you had [[expected]]. Yes.

Teacher: Yes, and as I have said, you may [[receive]] an answer not in the [[manner]] you had [[expected]]. Yes.

===='''''[[Fanaticism]]'''''====

===='''''[[Fanaticism]]'''''====

Tommas: There was a programme on Television the other day we recorded it, I haven’t watched it yet, "[http://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/13/movies/tv-review-sword-of-islam-on-13.html The Sword of Islam]" and it's about [[Moslems]], and their [[idea]] is to [[convert]] the world to their [[belief]], and kill, and die in the attempt doing it.

Tommas: There was a programme on Television the other day we recorded it, I haven’t watched it yet, "[https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/13/movies/tv-review-sword-of-islam-on-13.html The Sword of Islam]" and it's about [[Moslems]], and their [[idea]] is to [[convert]] the world to their [[belief]], and kill, and die in the attempt doing it.

Teacher: Yes, yes...

Teacher: Yes, yes...

"They misunderstood his [[words]] as well.

"They misunderstood his [[words]] as well.

Teacher: They, by [[choice]], have misunderstood, yes. In the beginning they did not misunderstand and great benefit came from the [[words]] he [[spoke]]. Those who have put themselves at the head of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_law Islamic Laws] do wrong by [[human]] kind,

Teacher: They, by [[choice]], have misunderstood, yes. In the beginning they did not misunderstand and great benefit came from the [[words]] he [[spoke]]. Those who have put themselves at the head of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_law Islamic Laws] do wrong by [[human]] kind,

Petta Will there be an end to it all, or will they just go on until they [[annihilate]] each other

Petta Will there be an end to it all, or will they just go on until they [[annihilate]] each other

Teacher: I shall not say yeah or nay, you have the power to [[change]] or not the [[choice]] belongs to the rest of [[humankind]]. It is not good to fight with the fighting equipment they use. Use the [[method]] I have suggested, is the only [[manner]].

Teacher: I shall not say yeah or nay, you have the power to [[change]] or not the [[choice]] belongs to the rest of [[humankind]]. It is not good to fight with the fighting equipment they use. Use the [[method]] I have suggested, is the only [[manner]].

Melda I've just been [[reading]] about the, I don't quite know how you say it, the [[Rishi]], in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedic_India India], and apparently they have the [[power]] to [[change]] a [[negative]] situation that is [[dangerous]] to a [[positive]] situation, is this the same thing

Melda I've just been [[reading]] about the, I don't quite know how you say it, the [[Rishi]], in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedic_India India], and apparently they have the [[power]] to [[change]] a [[negative]] situation that is [[dangerous]] to a [[positive]] situation, is this the same thing

Teacher: Correct.

Teacher: Correct.

Teacher: You see, I have said, my [[message]] to [[humanity]] has not been heard, it was, DO NOT [[Sacrifice|SACRIFlCE]] I did not [[learn]] this myself, until almost too late for the life of my son. It was taught to me DO NOT SACRlFlCE, and I misunderstood. It is still of great [[pain]] for myself that I did not leave my [[message]] of [[clarity]] for [[humankind]], sacrifice is not for [[GOD]]. Is not for GOOD. Is not for LOVE. Is not for [[truth]].

Teacher: You see, I have said, my [[message]] to [[humanity]] has not been heard, it was, DO NOT [[Sacrifice|SACRIFlCE]] I did not [[learn]] this myself, until almost too late for the life of my son. It was taught to me DO NOT SACRlFlCE, and I misunderstood. It is still of great [[pain]] for myself that I did not leave my [[message]] of [[clarity]] for [[humankind]], sacrifice is not for [[GOD]]. Is not for GOOD. Is not for LOVE. Is not for [[truth]].

And these persons who are brethren of all [[humankind]], who came from the [[seed]] of my son, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael], have not learnt, DO NOT SACRIFICE. He was cast aside with his [[Mother]], [[sacrificed]] by myself, for the sake of my first born son. I did not [[understand]], I beg [[humankind]] to [[understand]]. Therein lies the [[root]] of [[difficulties]] which exist still with the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs Arab] & the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews Jew] and the rest of [[humankind]].

And these persons who are brethren of all [[humankind]], who came from the [[seed]] of my son, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael], have not learnt, DO NOT SACRIFICE. He was cast aside with his [[Mother]], [[sacrificed]] by myself, for the sake of my first born son. I did not [[understand]], I beg [[humankind]] to [[understand]]. Therein lies the [[root]] of [[difficulties]] which exist still with the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs Arab] & the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews Jew] and the rest of [[humankind]].

When you give a [[message]] be certain of the [[clarity]] in which you deliver. Be certain of the [[understanding]] of your [[message]], as I should have done. I have the [[opportunity]] to teach still, and this is the [[message]] I teach

When you give a [[message]] be certain of the [[clarity]] in which you deliver. Be certain of the [[understanding]] of your [[message]], as I should have done. I have the [[opportunity]] to teach still, and this is the [[message]] I teach

Teacher: Correct, and they, and on, it is as the ripples in a pond. You may [[appear]] to be a small [[number]], but there are many such as you. Many others I teach. And there is One who [[intends]] to do much. Give him the [[power]] of your [[thought]] for the [[courage]] to do that, which he must do. You may be [[unknown]] to him, and him to you. But his name shall be familiar

Teacher: Correct, and they, and on, it is as the ripples in a pond. You may [[appear]] to be a small [[number]], but there are many such as you. Many others I teach. And there is One who [[intends]] to do much. Give him the [[power]] of your [[thought]] for the [[courage]] to do that, which he must do. You may be [[unknown]] to him, and him to you. But his name shall be familiar

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael ISHMAEL]

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael ISHMAEL]

whether it be in this [[physical]] [[journey]] or another it is for his [[choice]]. But each may do much. So, you [[worry]], you have no query.

whether it be in this [[physical]] [[journey]] or another it is for his [[choice]]. But each may do much. So, you [[worry]], you have no query.

"Yes, that makes me feel better, you have said this before.

"Yes, that makes me feel better, you have said this before.

Filip The sort of things we have looked at and sort of [[spoken]] about, there are lots of things that you have said before, the [[words]] are the same, it's happening all over. This guy on this [http://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/13/movies/tv-review-sword-of-islam-on-13.html Sword of Islam] thing, he was [[aware]], or he'd got the same [[ideas]] really as us, but through so many hundreds or thousands of years of mis-guidedness through [[Mohammed]], it's just off, slightly, but are they slowly becoming [[aware]] each to each, the [[amalgamation]] of the [[churches]], different [[religions]] all becoming more aware of the same one [[God]].

Filip The sort of things we have looked at and sort of [[spoken]] about, there are lots of things that you have said before, the [[words]] are the same, it's happening all over. This guy on this [https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/13/movies/tv-review-sword-of-islam-on-13.html Sword of Islam] thing, he was [[aware]], or he'd got the same [[ideas]] really as us, but through so many hundreds or thousands of years of mis-guidedness through [[Mohammed]], it's just off, slightly, but are they slowly becoming [[aware]] each to each, the [[amalgamation]] of the [[churches]], different [[religions]] all becoming more aware of the same one [[God]].

Teacher: You see, who is [[perceived]] as the head of [[Islam]], who is perceived as the head of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicanism Anglican religion], of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism Catholic religion] etc, etc., it is not [[God]]. It was always mans [[desire]] to [[perceive]] [[God]], [[personified]]. It was always God's [[wish]] to not be so. It was always mans [[desire]] to use God to give [[power]] to all [[humankind]] and was used in this [[manner]] and still is

Teacher: You see, who is [[perceived]] as the head of [[Islam]], who is perceived as the head of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicanism Anglican religion], of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism Catholic religion] etc, etc., it is not [[God]]. It was always mans [[desire]] to [[perceive]] [[God]], [[personified]]. It was always God's [[wish]] to not be so. It was always mans [[desire]] to use God to give [[power]] to all [[humankind]] and was used in this [[manner]] and still is

===='''''[[Humanity]]'''''====

===='''''[[Humanity]]'''''====

Charlemont You have [[touched]] on the [[nerve]] point I've been trying to get to. If we come across a [[human]] who does not [[wish]] this [[power]] as was with [[Jesus]] that knows of the [[God]] and has a following, what would we do coming across that [[person]], who was Christed in such a way, would we not fall back into that same [[pattern]] of human kind ways of saying this is the man who's [[leading]] our [[belief]]

Charlemont You have [[touched]] on the [[nerve]] point I've been trying to get to. If we come across a [[human]] who does not [[wish]] this [[power]] as was with [[Jesus]] that knows of the [[God]] and has a following, what would we do coming across that [[person]], who was Christed in such a way, would we not fall back into that same [[pattern]] of human kind ways of saying this is the man who's [[leading]] our [[belief]]

Filip And this is because there are now more humans on the Earth than there were in those times,

Filip And this is because there are now more humans on the Earth than there were in those times,

Charlemont Plus the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100th_Monkey 100th monkey thing]. The [[awareness]] consciousness. Conscience is like [[fashion]], it spreads.

Charlemont Plus the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100th_Monkey 100th monkey thing]. The [[awareness]] consciousness. Conscience is like [[fashion]], it spreads.

Filip We are now becoming aware of our vehicle for our [[soul]] which like a lot of the people down the street and around the corner are not aware of.

Filip We are now becoming aware of our vehicle for our [[soul]] which like a lot of the people down the street and around the corner are not aware of.

Selina So if [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael] decided to go [[home]] to do what he could he wouldn’t be alone, there would be people in perhaps powerful situations that could help him, in [[Government]] or in some kind of [[services]]?

Selina So if [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael] decided to go [[home]] to do what he could he wouldn’t be alone, there would be people in perhaps powerful situations that could help him, in [[Government]] or in some kind of [[services]]?

Teacher: I cannot say. It would be unwise for me to do so. And I may add the [[work]] he may [[choose]] to do, is not in a [[manner]] you would [[expect]].

Teacher: I cannot say. It would be unwise for me to do so. And I may add the [[work]] he may [[choose]] to do, is not in a [[manner]] you would [[expect]].

Charlemont Abraham, when you spoke before of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishamael Ishmael], I [[wondered]] whether you were speaking [[collectively]] or the one man who sat at our table? I meant collectively, as in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs Arab peoples].

Charlemont Abraham, when you spoke before of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishamael Ishmael], I [[wondered]] whether you were speaking [[collectively]] or the one man who sat at our table? I meant collectively, as in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs Arab peoples].

Teacher: Yes.

Teacher: Yes.

"Or the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishamael Ishmael] we [[personally]] know.

"Or the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishamael Ishmael] we [[personally]] know.

Teacher: Both. And beyond. You see, [[Abraham]] is responsible for that which occurs, due to causing [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael] to be [[sacrificed]], you are [[observing]] the [[effect]]. [[Imagine]] therefore if I had learned my lesson and had not cast aside Ishmael and had taught to live in [[peace]], but it does not do well to hearken back. One must ever look forward. But an example for you to [[consider]] in the [[cause]] and [[effect]] of your [[thoughts]] [[feelings]] and [[actions]].

Teacher: Both. And beyond. You see, [[Abraham]] is responsible for that which occurs, due to causing [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael] to be [[sacrificed]], you are [[observing]] the [[effect]]. [[Imagine]] therefore if I had learned my lesson and had not cast aside Ishmael and had taught to live in [[peace]], but it does not do well to hearken back. One must ever look forward. But an example for you to [[consider]] in the [[cause]] and [[effect]] of your [[thoughts]] [[feelings]] and [[actions]].

"I always felt you put too much on that, casting [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael] aside, considering the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs Arab race] were [[nomadic]] and you allowed him to be nomadic, and he didn’t die anyway.

"I always felt you put too much on that, casting [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael Ishmael] aside, considering the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs Arab race] were [[nomadic]] and you allowed him to be nomadic, and he didn’t die anyway.

Teacher: Ah!, but, you see, Charlemont, it is beyond this mere [[physical]].

Teacher: Ah!, but, you see, Charlemont, it is beyond this mere [[physical]].