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*[[Preparation]] for the [[death]] of many

*[[Preparation]] for the [[death]] of many

   

   

The passage of many [[simultaneously]], as has occurred recently in the last few years in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans New Orleans] and the [http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Coast_of_the_United_States Southern Coast of the United States], and in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti Haiti], and in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile Chile], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia Indonesia], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan Pakistan], and the other places of tremendous geophysical [[tragedies]].  You have not a [[feeling]] for that yet here, in these [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States United States], though you must be [[prepared]] for this, as you must know that our [[work]] with you is to prepare you for that.  We have warned you generally of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataclysm cataclysms] to come, and so we would not be good [[teachers]] if we did not [[prepare]] you for this [[personally]] and [[publicly]].  

The passage of many [[simultaneously]], as has occurred recently in the last few years in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans New Orleans] and the [https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Coast_of_the_United_States Southern Coast of the United States], and in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti Haiti], and in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile Chile], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia Indonesia], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan Pakistan], and the other places of tremendous geophysical [[tragedies]].  You have not a [[feeling]] for that yet here, in these [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States United States], though you must be [[prepared]] for this, as you must know that our [[work]] with you is to prepare you for that.  We have warned you generally of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataclysm cataclysms] to come, and so we would not be good [[teachers]] if we did not [[prepare]] you for this [[personally]] and [[publicly]].  

   

   

“What’s next,” is very clear:  I have spoken to you about this in the [[manuscript]] entitled, “[http://starbridgetrust.org/index.php?view=article&catid=8%3Atranscript-e-books&id=19%3Araphael-book&option=com_content&Itemid=15 Planetary Management and Global Sustainability],” (May 2007) which this one compiled and [[edited]] for us.  [It is available at http://www.starbridgetrust.org . Click on “[http://starbridgetrust.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=8&Itemid=15 Articles].”]  We are [[preparing]] you for this; we as [[Planetary]] Managers and [[Administrators]], would be negligent if we did not do so.  The end result, dear one, is that you are far better [[prepared]] for the [[future]], now, because of this, than without, and that the world’s [[population]] will be prepared as well.  Many will not [[prepare]] themselves but [[continue]] to live blithely as the summer roses and flowers bloom, never knowing the harshness of [[winter]] and [[death]].

“What’s next,” is very clear:  I have spoken to you about this in the [[manuscript]] entitled, “[https://starbridgetrust.org/index.php?view=article&catid=8%3Atranscript-e-books&id=19%3Araphael-book&option=com_content&Itemid=15 Planetary Management and Global Sustainability],” (May 2007) which this one compiled and [[edited]] for us.  [It is available at https://www.starbridgetrust.org . Click on “[https://starbridgetrust.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=8&Itemid=15 Articles].”]  We are [[preparing]] you for this; we as [[Planetary]] Managers and [[Administrators]], would be negligent if we did not do so.  The end result, dear one, is that you are far better [[prepared]] for the [[future]], now, because of this, than without, and that the world’s [[population]] will be prepared as well.  Many will not [[prepare]] themselves but [[continue]] to live blithely as the summer roses and flowers bloom, never knowing the harshness of [[winter]] and [[death]].

*Special [[relationship]] bonds in the [[afterlife]]

*Special [[relationship]] bonds in the [[afterlife]]

Vicki:  I’m going to get into some questions that are less global, again.  Monjoronson, do our deceased loved ones experience sorrow over the abrupt ending of their [[material]] lives?

Vicki:  I’m going to get into some questions that are less global, again.  Monjoronson, do our deceased loved ones experience sorrow over the abrupt ending of their [[material]] lives?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  No, they do not.  What they [[feel]] is oftentimes is like they [[wake]] up to a [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/non%20sequitur non-sequitur].  There is a very distinct disjuncture from their prior [[experiences]].  Their [[state]] of [[existence]] is so abruptly changed from the past that sorrow is not one of them.  Sorrow indicates a disappointment or loss of attachment, whereas when a [[person]] is deceased and becomes [[aware]]—and many do not become aware that they are deceased for some time—that when they become [[aware]] of their [[existence]], they know it is separate and apart from that which was, and that they take great [[joy]] and [[awe]] in their next few steps of this [[journey]].  It is one of [[wonderment]] and [[joy]].  There is a [[wonderment]] in the inexplicable, the [[unknown]], but delightful passage forward that they are underway.

MONJORONSON:  No, they do not.  What they [[feel]] is oftentimes is like they [[wake]] up to a [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/non%20sequitur non-sequitur].  There is a very distinct disjuncture from their prior [[experiences]].  Their [[state]] of [[existence]] is so abruptly changed from the past that sorrow is not one of them.  Sorrow indicates a disappointment or loss of attachment, whereas when a [[person]] is deceased and becomes [[aware]]—and many do not become aware that they are deceased for some time—that when they become [[aware]] of their [[existence]], they know it is separate and apart from that which was, and that they take great [[joy]] and [[awe]] in their next few steps of this [[journey]].  It is one of [[wonderment]] and [[joy]].  There is a [[wonderment]] in the inexplicable, the [[unknown]], but delightful passage forward that they are underway.

   

   

Vicki:  When they see us in our sorrow, they do not cry or [[suffer]] with us, is that correct?

Vicki:  When they see us in our sorrow, they do not cry or [[suffer]] with us, is that correct?

Living with ongoing, enduring [[stress]] is truly detrimental to your [[physical]] [[body]], and does [[prepare]] the way for early passage.  Lives that are under [[stress]] deteriorate much more rapidly as there is a [[toxic]] [[energy]] in the [[individual]], which [[work]]s against the [[body]] [[mechanism]].  Truly the [[body]] can only live in the [[now]], and when the [[mind]] struggles with the [[past]] and the [[future]], then the [[body]], which lives in the now, [[suffers]].

Living with ongoing, enduring [[stress]] is truly detrimental to your [[physical]] [[body]], and does [[prepare]] the way for early passage.  Lives that are under [[stress]] deteriorate much more rapidly as there is a [[toxic]] [[energy]] in the [[individual]], which [[work]]s against the [[body]] [[mechanism]].  Truly the [[body]] can only live in the [[now]], and when the [[mind]] struggles with the [[past]] and the [[future]], then the [[body]], which lives in the now, [[suffers]].

   

   

Vicki:  Some in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization Mayan culture] claim that during [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient ancient times], when past [[catastrophic]] [[events]] occurred, [[fear]] was a major killer.  Was this a valid [[assumption]]?

Vicki:  Some in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization Mayan culture] claim that during [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient ancient times], when past [[catastrophic]] [[events]] occurred, [[fear]] was a major killer.  Was this a valid [[assumption]]?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Very much so.  [[Fear]] is a great stressor.

MONJORONSON:  Very much so.  [[Fear]] is a great stressor.

Vicki:  (Laughing)  That’s what I was [[wondering]]!  The [[negative]] [[emotions]] of [[anger]], resentment, vengeance, [[guilt]], and [[shame]] seem to [[surface]] more frequently in those who are [[grieving]] the loss of a loved one.  Could you speak to this?

Vicki:  (Laughing)  That’s what I was [[wondering]]!  The [[negative]] [[emotions]] of [[anger]], resentment, vengeance, [[guilt]], and [[shame]] seem to [[surface]] more frequently in those who are [[grieving]] the loss of a loved one.  Could you speak to this?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Most definitely.  And this situation was addressed by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_K%C3%BCbler-Ross Elizabeth Kübler Ross] in her [[book]], “[http://books.google.com/books?id=ar2lqlxsHeQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=on+death+and+dying&hl=en&ei=qtEaTOOrFMK88gbd8tXFCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Death and Dying].”  That these [[emotions]] [[surface]] because of the loss of a loved one, that inexplicitly this [[individual]] is no longer there, as though they had abdicated willfully and [[intentionally]] their lifetime, and from the one who is left.  There is a sense of [[betrayal]]; there is a sense of neglect and a loss of [[commitment ]] by the one who is left.  Various [[interpretations]] run through their [[mind]] about the [[cause]]s of that, and then there is the [[emotional]] [[reaction]] to those and that situation.  So these [[negative]] [[emotions]] are part of the [[emotional]] roller coaster that loved ones feel when they are left behind.  It is a [[natural]], [[emotional]] [[developmental]] [[process]]: it is one to be [[appreciated]]; it is one to be [[accepted]], knowing that tomorrow is another day and you will feel [[differently]], and [[eventually]] these [[thoughts]] of [[betrayal]] and of loss will resurface as [[feelings]] of long-term [[commitment]], [[love]], [[loyalty]] and [[appreciation]].

MONJORONSON:  Most definitely.  And this situation was addressed by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_K%C3%BCbler-Ross Elizabeth Kübler Ross] in her [[book]], “[https://books.google.com/books?id=ar2lqlxsHeQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=on+death+and+dying&hl=en&ei=qtEaTOOrFMK88gbd8tXFCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Death and Dying].”  That these [[emotions]] [[surface]] because of the loss of a loved one, that inexplicitly this [[individual]] is no longer there, as though they had abdicated willfully and [[intentionally]] their lifetime, and from the one who is left.  There is a sense of [[betrayal]]; there is a sense of neglect and a loss of [[commitment ]] by the one who is left.  Various [[interpretations]] run through their [[mind]] about the [[cause]]s of that, and then there is the [[emotional]] [[reaction]] to those and that situation.  So these [[negative]] [[emotions]] are part of the [[emotional]] roller coaster that loved ones feel when they are left behind.  It is a [[natural]], [[emotional]] [[developmental]] [[process]]: it is one to be [[appreciated]]; it is one to be [[accepted]], knowing that tomorrow is another day and you will feel [[differently]], and [[eventually]] these [[thoughts]] of [[betrayal]] and of loss will resurface as [[feelings]] of long-term [[commitment]], [[love]], [[loyalty]] and [[appreciation]].

   

   

Vicki:  I’d just like to say at this point, Monjoronson, I’ve noticed tremendous [[transformations]] in people that were close to me through this recent [[grieving]] [[process]].  I saw those who I had [[shared]] these Q & A sessions with coming on board with a new sense of acknowledgement and [[belief]], and I saw tremendous movement of [[unity]] toward one another.  I don’t know if you want to comment on that, but I felt that it was so ''beautiful''!  These [[insights]] were coming to me quickly and very early in the [[process]], and as I watched this [[growth]] occur around me, I felt it should be part of our session today.

Vicki:  I’d just like to say at this point, Monjoronson, I’ve noticed tremendous [[transformations]] in people that were close to me through this recent [[grieving]] [[process]].  I saw those who I had [[shared]] these Q & A sessions with coming on board with a new sense of acknowledgement and [[belief]], and I saw tremendous movement of [[unity]] toward one another.  I don’t know if you want to comment on that, but I felt that it was so ''beautiful''!  These [[insights]] were coming to me quickly and very early in the [[process]], and as I watched this [[growth]] occur around me, I felt it should be part of our session today.

Vicki:  And of course my sister, who is with me here, and has been by my side through all of this, and I am so grateful for her, is pretty gifted in this.  So I’ve been fortunate enough to have that [[experience]]

Vicki:  And of course my sister, who is with me here, and has been by my side through all of this, and I am so grateful for her, is pretty gifted in this.  So I’ve been fortunate enough to have that [[experience]]

   

   

“Let there be spaces in your [[togetherness]].” ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahlil_Gibran Khalil Gibran])

“Let there be spaces in your [[togetherness]].” ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahlil_Gibran Khalil Gibran])

   

   

Vicki:  I have one more question or comment, and it is about “moving on.”  In his [[book]], the [[author]], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahlil_Gibran Khalil Gibran], suggested to couples in [[relationships]], “Let there be spaces in your togetherness.”  This has been a [[guiding]] piece of [[wisdom]] that my [[husband]] and I have [[grown]] into, as our [[relationship]] [[matured]].  And now, in facing this grieving period and loss, I’m [[thinking]] that this may serve me in my [[ability]] to move on.  Could you comment on this?

Vicki:  I have one more question or comment, and it is about “moving on.”  In his [[book]], the [[author]], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahlil_Gibran Khalil Gibran], suggested to couples in [[relationships]], “Let there be spaces in your togetherness.”  This has been a [[guiding]] piece of [[wisdom]] that my [[husband]] and I have [[grown]] into, as our [[relationship]] [[matured]].  And now, in facing this grieving period and loss, I’m [[thinking]] that this may serve me in my [[ability]] to move on.  Could you comment on this?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes, you and your [[husband]] had a [[wonderfully]] [[healthy]] and [[developing]] [[relationship]] by having those spaces, those open times where you were not in constant [[contact]], where you gave each other permission to be apart, and knowing that in your being apart you were not at a loss without the other, that you were not rejected, but that you were given [[opportunity]] to [[experience]] yourself, as yourself, out of [[relationship]], but knowing that the relationship was safe, otherwise.  You do not need to worry about this, or concern yourself.  Know that [[Michael]] in many ways has now given you a final open [[space]] in which you can fully [[explore]] yourself to the utmost.  You have a permission to now know yourself in ways which you did not.  Not that you need to be [[monastic]] in any way, but that you have now an [[opportunity]] for [[reverential]] reverie, a time of [[reverie]] that you can [[experience]] repeatedly, in an ongoing way.  Know that his [[support]] is with you; know that you are given support by your [[unseen]] helpers in ways which are also [[intimate]] and distant.  Enjoy these and take advantage of the [[contact]] as you wish.

MONJORONSON:  Yes, you and your [[husband]] had a [[wonderfully]] [[healthy]] and [[developing]] [[relationship]] by having those spaces, those open times where you were not in constant [[contact]], where you gave each other permission to be apart, and knowing that in your being apart you were not at a loss without the other, that you were not rejected, but that you were given [[opportunity]] to [[experience]] yourself, as yourself, out of [[relationship]], but knowing that the relationship was safe, otherwise.  You do not need to worry about this, or concern yourself.  Know that [[Michael]] in many ways has now given you a final open [[space]] in which you can fully [[explore]] yourself to the utmost.  You have a permission to now know yourself in ways which you did not.  Not that you need to be [[monastic]] in any way, but that you have now an [[opportunity]] for [[reverential]] reverie, a time of [[reverie]] that you can [[experience]] repeatedly, in an ongoing way.  Know that his [[support]] is with you; know that you are given support by your [[unseen]] helpers in ways which are also [[intimate]] and distant.  Enjoy these and take advantage of the [[contact]] as you wish.