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===Group: [[Salt Lake City TeaM]]===

 

Salt Lake City, Utah, Home of Warren Smith

===Teacher: [[Rayson]]===

 

===TR: [[Daniel Raphael]]===

Teacher: Rayson

 

TR: Daniel Raphael

====TOPIC 1====

 

Saskia’s three SRC group organizational questions.

 

 

1- Saskia’s three SRC group organizational questions.

 

 

 

 

 

TOPIC 1: Saskia’s three SRC group organizational questions.

Daniel: Okay, they are ready.

Daniel: Okay, they are ready.

Mary: Okay. I would like to ask three questions. They are brief questions. They are on behalf of a woman named Saskia, who has about twenty people in the group, a preliminary group. I feel these three questions will help the entire group with some direction.

Mary: Okay. I would like to ask three questions. They are brief questions. They are on behalf of a woman named Saskia, who has about twenty people in the group, a preliminary group. I feel these three questions will help the entire group with some direction.

#1. Should we close the group to new members for the time being so that we can learn to work together and be productive?

*1. Should we close the group to new members for the time being so that we can learn to work together and be productive?

Rayson: Good afternoon, this is Rayson. Yes. You will want to limit the number of people to any one group. We anticipate however, that there will be numerous groups functioning as you do, with a moderator such as yourself [Saskia] and members. It is important that you have a working group that works together, rather than a squabbling group. It is important that the size of the group facilitate that process, that thoughtful generation of probing questions. Yes, we foresee that this will be one of approximately a dozen such similar groups throughout the world. We anticipate, we look forward to, several groups as this in the future here. You are welcome to simplify this for your own handwriting if you like.

Rayson: Good afternoon, this is Rayson. Yes. You will want to limit the number of people to any one group. We anticipate however, that there will be numerous groups functioning as you do, with a moderator such as yourself [Saskia] and members. It is important that you have a working group that works together, rather than a squabbling group. It is important that the size of the group facilitate that process, that thoughtful generation of probing questions. Yes, we foresee that this will be one of approximately a dozen such similar groups throughout the world. We anticipate, we look forward to, several groups as this in the future here. You are welcome to simplify this for your own handwriting if you like.

Mary: Thank you.

Mary: Thank you.

#2. Am I on the right track by giving assignments and expecting those who have signed up to participate?

*2. Am I on the right track by giving assignments and expecting those who have signed up to participate?

Rayson: Yes. It is not so important that the assignments be handed out, but it is important for them to be handed back in. This is a cooperative group, not of twenty individuals operating twenty separate ways, but that twenty people work together with one mind. Remember, it is one mind, the consciousness of oneness, you are searching for and striving to develop.

Rayson: Yes. It is not so important that the assignments be handed out, but it is important for them to be handed back in. This is a cooperative group, not of twenty individuals operating twenty separate ways, but that twenty people work together with one mind. Remember, it is one mind, the consciousness of oneness, you are searching for and striving to develop.

Mary: Thank you.

Mary: Thank you.

#3. If I am being too strict with this group, should I allow someone with more relaxed methods take over as moderator so that I can work with a much smaller but closed group where everyone is on the same wavelength?

*3. If I am being too strict with this group, should I allow someone with more relaxed methods take over as moderator so that I can work with a much smaller but closed group where everyone is on the same wavelength?

Rayson: You have more than one question here. Could you divide the question, devise the question as several questions?

Rayson: You have more than one question here. Could you divide the question, devise the question as several questions?

Mary: I actually did send these questions to Saskia. She seemed pleased. They are not specific Urantia Book questions. That would be for the future. These are more general questions.

Mary: I actually did send these questions to Saskia. She seemed pleased. They are not specific Urantia Book questions. That would be for the future. These are more general questions.

TOPIC 2: Where do we need to be before questions begin?

====TOPIC 2====

 

Where do we need to be before questions begin?

Rayson: Well, let us explore this then. Select your questions.

Rayson: Well, let us explore this then. Select your questions.

Mary: Thank you. That clears that.

Mary: Thank you. That clears that.

TOPIC 3: Curiosity questions with Pyramids as example.

====TOPIC 3====

Curiosity questions with Pyramids as example.

Mary: I should like to comment on curiosity questions. My understanding is that curiosity questions are deemed as having no actual value to our spiritual growth and therefore they are not answered. Yet, there are, for lack of a better word, ‘mysteries’ which many, many upon our world truly wish to understand. An example would be the pyramids. Who actually built them and with what technology? Why? What is the significance of the mathematical properties contained in these structures? Do the pyramids have a role in our planetary future? Is there a spiritual component to the pyramids? I am not seeking specific answers to these questions at this time, but merely trying to understand what sort of questions will be allowed in general. So, would such questions likely be addressed?

Mary: I should like to comment on curiosity questions. My understanding is that curiosity questions are deemed as having no actual value to our spiritual growth and therefore they are not answered. Yet, there are, for lack of a better word, ‘mysteries’ which many, many upon our world truly wish to understand. An example would be the pyramids. Who actually built them and with what technology? Why? What is the significance of the mathematical properties contained in these structures? Do the pyramids have a role in our planetary future? Is there a spiritual component to the pyramids? I am not seeking specific answers to these questions at this time, but merely trying to understand what sort of questions will be allowed in general. So, would such questions likely be addressed?

Rayson: That is correct.

Rayson: That is correct.

TOPIC 4: Seeking clarity on ‘unearned knowledge’ and what questions might be allowed.

====TOPIC 4====

Seeking clarity on ‘unearned knowledge’ and what questions might be allowed.

Mary: As a follow up, I wish to understand the idea of unearned knowledge, a bit better. For example, The Urantia Book does confirm the existence of life on other worlds – confirming what we call UFOs. Since no authoritative human group actually ever documented, for the public, proof of life on other worlds, why is this not considered unearned knowledge? I realize that in order to move forward as a planet and be released from isolation due to the rebellion, and brought back into the cosmic fold, it is necessary for us to have such knowledge. Yet, there is confusion in my mind because our world suffers biologically due to the Adamic default. Why is more not revealed regarding physical healing and the conquest of disease? Likewise, third world countries suffer tremendously from an imbalance of resources that free energy technology could rectify. And, finally, there is an imbalance of power on our world that threatens the entire planet, yet, this is so complicated that I feel any questions I might develop, would be deemed as unanswerable, as unearned knowledge. So, what determines "earned knowledge" and how is it different from just confirming what we already believe? (pause) I’m sorry that’s a hard one.

Mary: As a follow up, I wish to understand the idea of unearned knowledge, a bit better. For example, The Urantia Book does confirm the existence of life on other worlds – confirming what we call UFOs. Since no authoritative human group actually ever documented, for the public, proof of life on other worlds, why is this not considered unearned knowledge? I realize that in order to move forward as a planet and be released from isolation due to the rebellion, and brought back into the cosmic fold, it is necessary for us to have such knowledge. Yet, there is confusion in my mind because our world suffers biologically due to the Adamic default. Why is more not revealed regarding physical healing and the conquest of disease? Likewise, third world countries suffer tremendously from an imbalance of resources that free energy technology could rectify. And, finally, there is an imbalance of power on our world that threatens the entire planet, yet, this is so complicated that I feel any questions I might develop, would be deemed as unanswerable, as unearned knowledge. So, what determines "earned knowledge" and how is it different from just confirming what we already believe? (pause) I’m sorry that’s a hard one.

Rayson: Your question is most excellent but it is not time to answer it. That is a question for Monjoronson’s staff to answer and they have not the authority to reveal that at this time. And, this is not the process to direct them to that group.

Rayson: Your question is most excellent but it is not time to answer it. That is a question for Monjoronson’s staff to answer and they have not the authority to reveal that at this time. And, this is not the process to direct them to that group.

[Note that a personal question was asked which resulted in much discussion. It has been omitted.]

[Note that a personal question was asked which resulted in much discussion. It has been omitted.]

Rayson: Let us bring this to a close as the emotions of these topics have caused (inaudible). You have seen within this process why it is essential that your questions (inaudible) a group; that there is a concerted effort to seek distilled questions, for not specific answers, but for answers that can aid you to make sense of your world.

Rayson: Let us bring this to a close as the emotions of these topics have caused (inaudible). You have seen within this process why it is essential that your questions (inaudible) a group; that there is a concerted effort to seek distilled questions, for not specific answers, but for answers that can aid you to make sense of your world.

You see what happens when you ask personal questions that are dear to your heart, that are stressful, that cause you to palpitate. These are situations which we have sought to avoid. I have been given permission to expand this discussion this afternoon to answer these questions as a learning tool for you. You can see how quickly people can become upset and their thinking gone awry. We do not want to have this occur. We know that you are filled with emotion, that you are a very emotionally energetic individual. Your peaceful spiritual development and evolution can only grow through peace, love, understanding, and so on. Our efforts must support that process. It is not that we have to or will ignore the other, but we will diminish this possibility so that the most constructive, positive outcomes can be produced by us and our appropriate efforts.

You see what happens when you ask personal questions that are dear to your heart, that are stressful, that cause you to palpitate. These are situations which we have sought to avoid. I have been given permission to expand this discussion this afternoon to answer these questions as a learning tool for you. You can see how quickly people can become upset and their thinking gone awry. We do not want to have this occur. We know that you are filled with emotion, that you are a very emotionally energetic individual. Your peaceful spiritual development and evolution can only grow through peace, love, understanding, and so on. Our efforts must support that process. It is not that we have to or will ignore the other, but we will diminish this possibility so that the most constructive, positive outcomes can be produced by us and our appropriate efforts.

 

I wish to thank you for this day. Bless each of you. You have a good idea of what to do as we do too. Good day.

I wish to thank you for this day. Bless each of you. You have a good idea of what to do as we do too. Good day.

Mary: Thank you. God-speed.

Mary: Thank you. God-speed.