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Spokane, Washington, USA
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Teachers:
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Timothy,
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Dolores
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TOPICS:
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Order and Chaos;
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Fear and Ignorance;
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Change and Chaos;
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Evil
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T/R's: Ginny; Gerdean
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January 5, 2002
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==Heading==
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===Topic: ''Order & Chaos''===
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===Group: [[Spokane TeaM]]===
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==Facilitators==
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===Teacher: [[Timothy]], [[Delores]]===
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===TR: [[Ginny]], [[Gerdean]]===
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==Session==
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===Opening===
 
TIMOTHY: This is Timothy. Greetings, my friends. We have been immensely enjoying your discussions before our communications with you. It is showing us that you indeed are progressing very nicely. We are so thrilled to be able to be among you and hear you speak so eloquently of spiritual things, for believe me it is not a very frequent sight. On the whole, who can discuss without fighting or arguing? It is a great step that you have taken and it is a great comfort to us to know that our mission is succeeding very nicely.
 
TIMOTHY: This is Timothy. Greetings, my friends. We have been immensely enjoying your discussions before our communications with you. It is showing us that you indeed are progressing very nicely. We are so thrilled to be able to be among you and hear you speak so eloquently of spiritual things, for believe me it is not a very frequent sight. On the whole, who can discuss without fighting or arguing? It is a great step that you have taken and it is a great comfort to us to know that our mission is succeeding very nicely.
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GINNY: Thank you, Timothy.
 
GINNY: Thank you, Timothy.
 
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===Lesson===
 
TIMOTHY: Yes, it is very difficult on your world at this time but not so much as it was before, to listen to divine or spiritual guidance, since there seems to be such a scramble by most people simply to stay alive or to keep on top. They are both very exhausting.
 
TIMOTHY: Yes, it is very difficult on your world at this time but not so much as it was before, to listen to divine or spiritual guidance, since there seems to be such a scramble by most people simply to stay alive or to keep on top. They are both very exhausting.
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Are there questions, or do you want to skip right to the party?
 
Are there questions, or do you want to skip right to the party?
 
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===Dialogue===
 
GINNY: I just don't know, Dolores, who you are. I enjoy your communications with us but I'm not sure I know where you came from and who you are.
 
GINNY: I just don't know, Dolores, who you are. I enjoy your communications with us but I'm not sure I know where you came from and who you are.
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GINNY: I'd like to change the subject somewhat, quite a bit. And if any other teacher wants to handle this E2 80 A6 During the Christmastime I was with a friend of mine. We were talking about the September 11th disaster and E2 80 A6 as you were talking, Dolores, what you were talking about sort of threw me onto this idea of evil. I don't know why, but it did. And then I remembered my friend's concern. She looked at me very intently and said, "Well, you know, Ginny, there is evil in the world. You know that, don't you." I was just so taken aback by that statement. I even forget what I said. I think it was something to the effect that I did not believe (I tried to make it personal, on what my believes were, because I have a tendency to dump my beliefs on other people) E2 80 A6. I said that I believed that there was no longer a personified evil in the world, and that I thought that there's a lot that's going wrong in our world that is not really evil, and that people that we call evil, I don't look at as evil, I look at as misguided. And I felt a little sad that she would still be attached to that personified evil in the world. So I hope I was able E2 80 A6  
 
GINNY: I'd like to change the subject somewhat, quite a bit. And if any other teacher wants to handle this E2 80 A6 During the Christmastime I was with a friend of mine. We were talking about the September 11th disaster and E2 80 A6 as you were talking, Dolores, what you were talking about sort of threw me onto this idea of evil. I don't know why, but it did. And then I remembered my friend's concern. She looked at me very intently and said, "Well, you know, Ginny, there is evil in the world. You know that, don't you." I was just so taken aback by that statement. I even forget what I said. I think it was something to the effect that I did not believe (I tried to make it personal, on what my believes were, because I have a tendency to dump my beliefs on other people) E2 80 A6. I said that I believed that there was no longer a personified evil in the world, and that I thought that there's a lot that's going wrong in our world that is not really evil, and that people that we call evil, I don't look at as evil, I look at as misguided. And I felt a little sad that she would still be attached to that personified evil in the world. So I hope I was able E2 80 A6  
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I don't want to be silent when people say something to me like that, for fear that I will offend them. I want to be more aggressive and more assertive in what I believe, but at the same time I really fear starting an argument and spoiling a relationship with another person because of our different beliefs. But I did want to discuss that with her. So I guess my concern is not so much about the concept of evil in the world as how can we find a way to discuss things, especially religious things, without hurting each other or without starting arguments? That is so difficult.
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I don't want to be silent when people say something to me like that, for fear that I will offend them. I want to be more aggressive and more assertive in what I believe, but at the same time I really fear starting an argument and spoiling a relationship with another person because of our different beliefs. But I did want to discuss that with her. So I guess my concern is not so much about the concept of evil in the world as how can we find a way to discuss things, especially religious things, without hurting each other or without starting arguments? That is so difficult.
    
DOLORES: Thank you for your question. I was going to give it to one of the more experienced teachers here but I was offered the opportunity to respond. The season and the circumstances of which you reference, presented indeed an opportunity to grow as a teacher and as a fellow, and we are comforted when you bring these questions to our attention for this is how the apostles once did with Jesus and he would sit and discuss their concerns. In this way they are shared with the other apostles and your experience becomes then the experience of others.
 
DOLORES: Thank you for your question. I was going to give it to one of the more experienced teachers here but I was offered the opportunity to respond. The season and the circumstances of which you reference, presented indeed an opportunity to grow as a teacher and as a fellow, and we are comforted when you bring these questions to our attention for this is how the apostles once did with Jesus and he would sit and discuss their concerns. In this way they are shared with the other apostles and your experience becomes then the experience of others.
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DOLORES: Yes. I will act upon your remarks to say your tendency is a remnant of your competitive practices. As you begin to look with a new view, you will relinquish your need to function tit for tat and your dimension of operation will provide you a great new range of operation. You'll have much more fun investigating the subject of spirituality as compared to religion, and you'll trigger in your hearers, in your associates, that which will enable you to become a fisher of men. This we will work with you toward.
 
DOLORES: Yes. I will act upon your remarks to say your tendency is a remnant of your competitive practices. As you begin to look with a new view, you will relinquish your need to function tit for tat and your dimension of operation will provide you a great new range of operation. You'll have much more fun investigating the subject of spirituality as compared to religion, and you'll trigger in your hearers, in your associates, that which will enable you to become a fisher of men. This we will work with you toward.
 
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===Closing===
 
How our combined cosmic heart swells in gratification at your yearning to grow and be more than you are and all that you can be in the greater reality . Little sisters and brothers, we lift our voice and our countenance to the Eternal Parents on Paradise to envelop us in their love and their grace, to strengthen us with their power, and to wash us with their mercy.
 
How our combined cosmic heart swells in gratification at your yearning to grow and be more than you are and all that you can be in the greater reality . Little sisters and brothers, we lift our voice and our countenance to the Eternal Parents on Paradise to envelop us in their love and their grace, to strengthen us with their power, and to wash us with their mercy.
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GROUP: Thank you.
 
GROUP: Thank you.
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[[Category: The Teaching Mission: Dialogues]]
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[[Category: Spokane TeaM]]
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[[Category: Timothy]]
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[[Category: Delores]]
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[[Category: Ginny]]
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[[Category: Gerdean]]
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