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===Topic: ''Monjoronson Q & A Session 83''===
===Group: [[N. Colorado TeaM]]===
==Facilitators==
===Teacher: [[Monjoronson]]===
===TR: [[Daniel Raphael]]===
==Session==
*Moderator - Philip
===Opening===
Prayer: As we [[relax]] and let go of all [[tension]], we [[realize]] in the [[goodness]] of the [[universe]] that we rest in the palms of [[God]]'s hands and the bosom of our lovely and loving [[Creator Son]] [[Michael]]. And so we are at [[peace]], we open ourselves to all the [[light]] in the universe to [[Encompass|surround]] and [[flow]] through us, to give us [[clarity]] in the [[responses]] and [[understanding]] of those responses and we give [[thanks]], [[amen]].

Philip: Good morning Daniel and Monjoronson. [Good morning.]
===='''''[[Catastrophism]]'''''====
(Population Reduction)

Question #1: With regard to [[population]] reduction on [[Urantia]], do the higher [[spiritual]] [[powers]] see [[genocide]] appearing on Urantia to produce one of those major factors in the rapid reduction of population?

Monjoronson: No, genocide is not an aspect of that [[design]]. The connotation of population reduction is that this is an [[intentional]] reduction of population by some outside [[influence]]. This is not the case. Population decimation is a much more accurate designation for population reduction due to natural causes that are [[developmental]] and [[evolutionary]] and [[epidemiological]] on your [[planet]]. Genocide is [[human]] [[origin]]ated. The main population reduction [[method]] [[processes]] that have occurred throughout the [[history]] of your planet has been [[famine]], [[pestilence]] and [[war]]. We would consider genocide an aspect of war. The natural occurrence of famine and pestilence are sufficient to reduce population on your world. These factors have been [[virtually]] eliminated due to modern [[science]], [[medicine]] and [[disease]] control procedures yet they can only hold back the dam of pestilence and famine and difficulty for so long. Eventually there will occur the [[developments]] in [[evolution]], a strain of disease which will overcome and overpower those [[technologies]]. Thank you.
===='''''[[Eugenics]]'''''====
Question #2: Is there a proper role for Eugenics in population control?

Monjoronson: No, there is not unless it is [[human]] [[origin]]ated. Human [[population]] through [[eugenics]] is oftentimes [[coercive]] and comes from a central [[authority]] which is contrary to an evolved [[society]]. Population reduction or population control comes through the natural selections of [[individuals]] to have [[children]] or not to have children. This comes from greater [[public]] awareness and [[education]] through the [[masses]]. The great [[problems]] of your world is the lack of [[transparency]] and the lack of [[education]] throughout the ranks of the masses along with the lack of [[nutrition]]al sufficiency to develop strong [[minds]] in young ones who grow up to be adults. All of these taken together have a tremendous [[effect]] upon population control. [[Eugenics]] is oftentimes seen as a product of central [[policy]] control and [[authority]], whereas eugenics is most effective when the population of a world decides that it is time to have only so many children to the capacity that [[parents]] can raise them to become [[responsible]] and effective adults in that [[society]]. Thank you.
===='''''[[Cosmology]]''''', '''''[[Urantia Book]]'''''====
(Universe Workings)

Question #3: My question has to do with Monjoronson's [[statement]] found in [http://tmarchives.com/transcript_frames.php?tid=5022&search=superficial tmarchives May 24, 2009-NOCO #107]. In the first paragraph it says: "You have been [[prepared]] as well by the [[Urantia Book]], which has described the workings of the [[universe]] in a [[superficial]] [[manner]]."

Could you comment on what is meant by "superficial manner"?

Monjoronson: Most certainly, I would be pleased to do so. The [[Urantia Book]] is a very small book in the [[series]] of [[books]] that describe the [[evolution]] and [[cosmology]] of the [[universe]]. This is a very tight and concise [[book]] though to you [[mortals]] it is [[Awe|awesome]], it is a tome in its own right, it is [[challenging]] to read and most difficult to [[understand]] in its entirety. Yet and however, to the chroniclers of the [[universe]] who had a [[library]] of [[material]] to provide to [[readers]] of your world, this is actually a tight [[Outline|summarization]] of the material available for your world. It is simply [[superficial]] in the eyes of the [[archivists]] and librarians of [[Nebadon]]'s and [[Uversa]]'s libraries. It is a very brief trace of the true and full [[history]] and [[development]], [[cosmology]] of all [[Paper 106 - Universe Levels of Reality|levels of reality]] in the universe. That [[statement]] was in no way meant to disparage the [[quality]] of the [[document]] as it is of the highest quality possible to be delivered to [[mortals]] of limited mind capacity considering the [[language]] [[limitations]] that we had to work with. We [[hope]] you understand more thoroughly our description of the [[book]] in that session. Thank you.
===='''''[[Mansion Worlds]]'''''====
(Mansonia)

Question #4: We read with interest your answer about having [[housing]] on [[mansonia]] being a little [[scarce]] on the lower levels of rehabilitation, and we [[wonder]] how the [[universe]] deals with this kind of shortage? Do they build more abodes, [[create]] another category such as a "Mid Heaven?", or perhaps reduce the [[number]] of incoming [[souls]] in some [[manner]] to alleviate the crowding?

Monjoronson: Scarce is of course the [[limiting]] [[word]], no pun intended. Scarce as a word tells you that the incoming [[number]] of [[individuals]] is rather large and that the room for those [[individuals]] becomes limited. Yet you must be aware that these [[Mansion Worlds|worlds of Mansonia]] are of such [[dimension]] as to leave you in [[awe]] were you to [[understand]] the dimensions of these worlds. Remember as well that these were [[designed]] by [[Architects of the Master Universe|Universe Architects]] who anticipated the full [[development]] of [[flow]] of [[mortals]] from each section of the [[local universe]]. [[Edentia]]'s [[mansion worlds]] are sufficient in [[design]] and size to handle the capacity of the passage of new [[souls]] and [[beings]] who come from [[Paper 49 - The Inhabited Worlds|material worlds]].

It is much like a cash flow and reduction of debt and increase of assets. You would see a tremendous increase as more and more worlds enter into the [[evolution]] and [[growth]] and fullness of them as they enter the era before the days of [[Light and Life]]. Eras of Light and Life almost always have a very tightly controlled [[population]] [[density]] and passage of [[individuals]] into the [[afterlife]]. The scarcity issue was a tongue in cheek comment made to the [[audience]] to let them know that the constraints of the [[mansion worlds]] are unlimited in their capacity to handle the souls who passage through them to the [[training]] and educational worlds. Do not limit yourself and your [[thinking]] to the opinion that these worlds are small and that there are too many souls coming to them, this is not the case. Thank you.
===='''''[[Groups]]''''' ,'''''[[Stillness]]'''''====
(The Mystic Circle(

Question #5: Would you describe a term we have been hearing called a "[[mystic]] [[circle]]," what you mean by it and how to make use of it?

Monjoronson: Let me explain the term first. First of all the term "mystic circles" was coined by the [[author]] [[Daniel Raphael]] and it was meant to describe to fellow believers a much deeper [[meditation]] [[group]] that leads to more [[intimate]] and closer proximity to the [[Divine]] within each individual. It is as well a circle of [[transformation]] where individuals can come to the threshold of an [[altered state of consciousness]] where they would [[experience]] a [[transition]], a transformation with themselves as they engage the Divine.

As for the operation of the mystic circles, the mystic circle is more than a meditation group, it is a deep meditation group that gives individuals [[guidance]] to the [[Profound|deepest]] reaches of [[meditation]]. The meditation is to bring people to a threshold to an altered state of consciousness. This truly means where you are barely conscious of your own [[being]], that you live and exist in the realms of [[consciousness]] where you meet easily other consciousness and you are in the doorstep of knowing and greeting your spiritual [[advisors]] including your [[Thought Adjuster]].

It is much like the [[parable]] of [[Jesus]] where He invites you to come to His house, [[meaning]] His consciousness, knock upon the door, that means set your [[intention]] for meeting the Master, and He says: "I will greet you and I will know you and we shall know each other." This truly is the mystic [[relationship]] where you come to know and [[experience]] the [[presence]] of your [[Thought Adjuster]]. If you are unable to engage that, then you would be present to greet your [[Guardian Angels|guardian]] or your [[celestial]] [[teacher]]. The [[purpose]] of the mystic circle is at least twofold. One is to [[encourage]] and allow and promote the deepening of [[relationship]] between the individual and the [[God]] Presence within. The second intention is to allow and encourage and teach individuals to become [[t/r]]'s where they must release their [[ego]], their self presence, their self engagement, but to release themselves to the [[flow]] of spirits in proximity to them. I hope this is of assistance to you. Thank you.

===='''''[[Mercy]]''''', '''''[[Nebadon]]'''''====
Question #6: Is it just too early to have any [[discussion]] of the creative meaning of [[Nebadon]]? For instance, Nebadon I believe is known for its lavish mercy. In what way does an emphasis on "mercy" reflect the [[meaning]] of Nebadon's [[existence]]?

Monjoronson: As one travels from [[Paradise]], outward from [[Havona]] to the [[Orvonton|Seventh Superuniverse]], one finds greater and greater [[latitude]] in the evolution of [[mortals]] and their [[behavior]]. Nebadon is, in the opinion of this [[descending]] [[Paradise Son]], a most [[challenging]] local universe to [[administer]]. [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_7#7:1._THE_SPIRIT-GRAVITY_CIRCUIT Spirit gravity] has not diminished or attenuated but spreads itself out the farther it goes from Havona and Paradise. Were Christ Michael to rule with the [[degree]] of [[justice]] as occurs in [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_15#15:1._THE_SUPERUNIVERSE_SPACE_LEVEL Universe One], there would be few who would [[survive]] on the [[material]] [[planet]] to achieve the [[mansion worlds]], but through His tremendous [[expression]] of [[mercy]], you learn tremendous lessons. It gives you more latitude in your [[behavior]] before you are called into account.

You would call this a generous [[fairness]]. The fair play of Christ [[Michael]] in [[Nebadon]] is grand, it is superb, it is supreme as this allows [[mortals]] the greatest latitude in living their lives to come to find the [[Thought Adjuster|God Presence]] within them and while doing so, they, as [[Agondonters]] become the strongest of souls to engage in the [[ascendant]] [[journey]] to [[Paradise]]. The [[responsibilities]] of mortals are far greater to come to know God than on the inner created universes. [[Mercy]] provides the greatest allowance for the development of spirit [[potential]] within each individual before they are called [[home]]. Yes, it is no [[wonder]] that mercy is so well recognized in Nebadon for Christ Michael has set a [[standard]] of mercy which truly almost exceeds that of any other [[Creator Son]]. Only others in the Superuniverse of [[Orvonton]] have reached the level that Christ Michael has in Nebadon. We hope this helps you [[understand]] more clearly the nature of mercy in Nebadon and the [[character]] of mercy that Christ Michael expresses to all the inhabited worlds of His [[creation]]. Thank you.

Question: How do we reconcile an [[act]] of mercy being extended to individuals who had no mercy for their victims?

Monjoronson: Mercy extended to individuals is not conditional upon their own [[demonstration]] of mercy. Mercy is granted to individuals based upon their [[soul]] [[potential]] to become far greater than they are. There is no prerequisite for demonstration of mercy before mercy is extended. Your God, your Host within you loves you regardless of your [[performance]]. Thank you.

===='''''[[Education]]'''''====

Question #8: In a response to a question in [[Session #82]] you state that [[education]] of "[[morontia]] realities, while they do entail the acquirement of [[facts]] and the [[association]] of [[concepts]], they also -- and more highly so -- are engaged in relational association. Morontia is the [[transition]] to [[spirit]], and spirit is [[relationship]], which again brings us back to our first question, that of the lesson of [[love]]." How do you explain why relationship training takes precedence in spiritual education over the material acquisition of [[facts]] and [[concepts]]?

Daniel: There is no comment. [A discussion of the question ensued between the t/r and moderator to which Monjoronson spoke.]

Monjoronson: This is Monjoronson. I clearly see the [[conundrum]] that this question has presented to both the [[t/r]] and others. The answer to the question and the reasons for my not addressing it directly is that the question and the answers are truly not relevant to the difficulties of living your [[mortal]] lifetime. You have enough on your plate to be loving, [[kind]], [[tolerant]], [[generous]], [[forgiving]], [[patient]] and offering forbearance to others as well as yourself than to become so deeply engaged in an [[intellectual]] question of little [[value]] to the mortal experience. Thank you.

Philip: Thank your Monjoronson for your responses and is our [[custom]], we would open the floor to you for any comments that you would care to make in addition to those offered.

Monjoronson: Good morning, this is Monjoronson. I appreciate and enjoy the many questions that you deliver to me. I would [[guide]] you in the development of questions so that your questions become and are relevant to your own lives. This is the greatest [[challenge]] that you will have in your [[mortal]] lifetime; simply [[Doing the will of God|living according to God's will]], day to day. You have much to concern yourself about in your [[personal]] conduct and in your [[relationship]] to each other and in your relationship to yourself and your relationship to [[the Father]] [[Thought Adjuster|within you]]. You have been given a very generous palate before you upon which to paint a very [[colorful]], [[meaningful]] and [[beautiful]] life. You have the [[tools]], the personal abilities and the [[mind]] [[function]] to fill [to] the greatest extent possible, of becoming more each day.

I would guide you not to overly concern yourself with the [[intellectual]] realms that are ahead of you [[Afterlife|after this lifetime]]. It is sufficient to express loving kindness each [[moment]] in the day to your fellow brothers and sisters and to [[discern]] who is needful of the pearls of [[wisdom]] that you've gained in your life to [[share]] with. I am not here to prepare you for the immediate [[transition]] into the [[morontia]]l but for your transition and evolution into the higher realms of your own being in this lifetime.

Thank you again for this [[opportunity]] to be with you. Know that the [[Spirit of Truth]] is here with you as well. Always you have with you the [[guidance]] of Christ Michael [[immediate]] upon any request for His presence and His advisement. Know that [[Curriculum|my program]] to bring you into an evolved and [[sustainable]] world are many and we need capable individuals who are willing invest themselves in developing the [[potential]] that they carry with them during this brief lifetime, good day.

Philip: Thank you Monjoronson and our thanks to your staff and to our t/r. We call this meeting to a close.

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