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130:7.1 Most of the time en route to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage Carthage] [[Jesus]] talked with his fellow travelers about things [[social]], [[political]], and [[commercial]]; hardly a [[word]] was said about [[religion]]. For the first time Gonod and Ganid [[discovered]] that Jesus was a good [[storyteller]], and they kept him busy telling tales about his early life in [[Galilee]]. They also learned that he was reared in [[Galilee]] and not in either [[Jerusalem]] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus Damascus].
130:7.2 When Ganid [[inquired]] what one could do to make [[friends]], having noticed that the [[majority]] of [[persons]] whom they chanced to meet were [[attracted]] to Jesus, his teacher said: " Become interested in your fellows; [[learn]] how to [[love]] them and watch for the [[opportunity]] to do something for them which you are sure they want done, " and then he quoted the olden [http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/ajp/index.htm Jewish proverb]—" A man who would have [[friends]] must show himself friendly. "[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Book_of_Proverbs#Proverb_.18]
130:7.3 At [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage Carthage] [[Jesus]] had a long and memorable talk with a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism Mithraic priest] about [[immortality]], about [[time]] and [[eternity]]. This [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persia Persian] had been educated at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria Alexandria], and he really [[desired]] to learn from [[Jesus]]. Put into the [[words]] of today, in substance [[Jesus]] said in answer to his many questions:
130:7.4 [[Time]] is the [[stream]] of [[flowing]] [[temporal]] [[events]] [[perceived]] by [[creature]] [[consciousness]]. Time is a [[name]] given to the [[succession]]-arrangement whereby [[events]] are [[recognized]] and [[segregated]]. The [[universe]] of [[space]] is a time-related [[phenomenon]] as it is viewed from any interior position outside of the fixed abode of [[Paradise]]. The [[motion]] of [[time]] is only [[revealed]] in [[relation]] to something which does not move in [[space]] as a [[time]] [[phenomenon]]. In the [[universe of universes]] [[Paradise]] and its [[the Deities|Deities]] [[transcend]] both [[time and space]]. On the [[inhabited worlds]], [[human]] [[personality]] (indwelt and [[oriented]] by the [[Paradise Father]]'s [[Thought Adjuster|spirit]]) is the only [[physically]] related [[reality]] which can [[transcend]] the [[material]] [[sequence]] of [[temporal]] [[events]].
130:7.5 [[Animals]] do not [[sense]] time as does man, and even to man, because of his sectional and [[circumscribed]] view, time appears as a [[succession]] of [[events]]; but as man [[ascends]], as he [[progresses]] inward, the enlarging view of this [[event]] [[procession]] is such that it is discerned more and more in its [[wholeness]]. That which formerly appeared as a [[succession]] of events then will be viewed as a [[whole]] and perfectly related [[cycle]]; in this way will [[circular]] [[simultaneity]] increasingly displace the onetime [[consciousness]] of the [[linear]] [[sequence]] of [[events]].
130:7.6 There are [[seven]] different [[conceptions]] of [[space]] as it is conditioned by [[time]]. Space is [[measured]] by time, not time by [[space]]. The [[confusion]] of the [[scientist]] grows out of failure to [[recognize]] the [[reality]] of space. Space is not merely an [[intellectual]] [[concept]] of the variation in [[relatedness]] of universe objects. [[Space]] is not empty, and the only thing man knows which can even partially [[transcend]] space is [[mind]]. Mind can [[function]] independently of the [[concept]] of the space-relatedness of [[material]] objects. Space is [[relatively]] and comparatively [[finite]] to all [[beings]] of [[creature]] [[status]]. The nearer [[consciousness]] approaches the awareness of [[seven]] [[cosmic]] [[dimensions]], the more does the [[concept]] of [[potential]] space approach [[ultimacy]]. But the space [[potential]] is truly ultimate only on the [[absolute]] level.
130:7.7 It must be apparent that [[universal]] [[reality]] has an expanding and always [[relative]] [[meaning]] on the [[ascending]] and perfecting levels of the [[cosmos]]. Ultimately, [[surviving]] [[mortals]] achieve [[identity]] in a [[Seven Superuniverses|seven-dimensional universe]].
130:7.8 The [[time-space]] [[concept]] of a [[mind]] of [[material]] [[origin]] is destined to undergo [[successive]] enlargements as the [[conscious]] and conceiving [[personality]] ascends the levels of [[the universes]]. When man [[attains]] the [[mind]] intervening between the [[material]] and the [[spiritual]] [[planes]] of [[existence]], his ideas of [[time-space]] will be enormously expanded both as to [[quality]] of [[perception]] and [[quantity]] of [[experience]]. The enlarging [[cosmic]] [[conceptions]] of an advancing [[spirit]] [[personality]] are due to augmentations of both [[depth]] of [[insight]] and scope of [[consciousness]]. And as [[personality]] passes on, [[Ascension Career|upward and inward]], to the [[transcendental]] levels of [[Deity]]-likeness, the [[time-space]] concept will increasingly approximate the timeless and spaceless concepts of [[the Absolutes]]. Relatively, and in [[accordance]] with [[transcendental]] [[attainment]], these concepts of the [[absolute]] level are to be envisioned by the [[children]] of [[ultimate]] [[destiny]].
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[[Category:Paper 130 - On the Way to Rome]]
130:7.1 Most of the time en route to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage Carthage] [[Jesus]] talked with his fellow travelers about things [[social]], [[political]], and [[commercial]]; hardly a [[word]] was said about [[religion]]. For the first time Gonod and Ganid [[discovered]] that Jesus was a good [[storyteller]], and they kept him busy telling tales about his early life in [[Galilee]]. They also learned that he was reared in [[Galilee]] and not in either [[Jerusalem]] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus Damascus].
130:7.2 When Ganid [[inquired]] what one could do to make [[friends]], having noticed that the [[majority]] of [[persons]] whom they chanced to meet were [[attracted]] to Jesus, his teacher said: " Become interested in your fellows; [[learn]] how to [[love]] them and watch for the [[opportunity]] to do something for them which you are sure they want done, " and then he quoted the olden [http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/ajp/index.htm Jewish proverb]—" A man who would have [[friends]] must show himself friendly. "[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Book_of_Proverbs#Proverb_.18]
130:7.3 At [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage Carthage] [[Jesus]] had a long and memorable talk with a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism Mithraic priest] about [[immortality]], about [[time]] and [[eternity]]. This [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persia Persian] had been educated at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria Alexandria], and he really [[desired]] to learn from [[Jesus]]. Put into the [[words]] of today, in substance [[Jesus]] said in answer to his many questions:
130:7.4 [[Time]] is the [[stream]] of [[flowing]] [[temporal]] [[events]] [[perceived]] by [[creature]] [[consciousness]]. Time is a [[name]] given to the [[succession]]-arrangement whereby [[events]] are [[recognized]] and [[segregated]]. The [[universe]] of [[space]] is a time-related [[phenomenon]] as it is viewed from any interior position outside of the fixed abode of [[Paradise]]. The [[motion]] of [[time]] is only [[revealed]] in [[relation]] to something which does not move in [[space]] as a [[time]] [[phenomenon]]. In the [[universe of universes]] [[Paradise]] and its [[the Deities|Deities]] [[transcend]] both [[time and space]]. On the [[inhabited worlds]], [[human]] [[personality]] (indwelt and [[oriented]] by the [[Paradise Father]]'s [[Thought Adjuster|spirit]]) is the only [[physically]] related [[reality]] which can [[transcend]] the [[material]] [[sequence]] of [[temporal]] [[events]].
130:7.5 [[Animals]] do not [[sense]] time as does man, and even to man, because of his sectional and [[circumscribed]] view, time appears as a [[succession]] of [[events]]; but as man [[ascends]], as he [[progresses]] inward, the enlarging view of this [[event]] [[procession]] is such that it is discerned more and more in its [[wholeness]]. That which formerly appeared as a [[succession]] of events then will be viewed as a [[whole]] and perfectly related [[cycle]]; in this way will [[circular]] [[simultaneity]] increasingly displace the onetime [[consciousness]] of the [[linear]] [[sequence]] of [[events]].
130:7.6 There are [[seven]] different [[conceptions]] of [[space]] as it is conditioned by [[time]]. Space is [[measured]] by time, not time by [[space]]. The [[confusion]] of the [[scientist]] grows out of failure to [[recognize]] the [[reality]] of space. Space is not merely an [[intellectual]] [[concept]] of the variation in [[relatedness]] of universe objects. [[Space]] is not empty, and the only thing man knows which can even partially [[transcend]] space is [[mind]]. Mind can [[function]] independently of the [[concept]] of the space-relatedness of [[material]] objects. Space is [[relatively]] and comparatively [[finite]] to all [[beings]] of [[creature]] [[status]]. The nearer [[consciousness]] approaches the awareness of [[seven]] [[cosmic]] [[dimensions]], the more does the [[concept]] of [[potential]] space approach [[ultimacy]]. But the space [[potential]] is truly ultimate only on the [[absolute]] level.
130:7.7 It must be apparent that [[universal]] [[reality]] has an expanding and always [[relative]] [[meaning]] on the [[ascending]] and perfecting levels of the [[cosmos]]. Ultimately, [[surviving]] [[mortals]] achieve [[identity]] in a [[Seven Superuniverses|seven-dimensional universe]].
130:7.8 The [[time-space]] [[concept]] of a [[mind]] of [[material]] [[origin]] is destined to undergo [[successive]] enlargements as the [[conscious]] and conceiving [[personality]] ascends the levels of [[the universes]]. When man [[attains]] the [[mind]] intervening between the [[material]] and the [[spiritual]] [[planes]] of [[existence]], his ideas of [[time-space]] will be enormously expanded both as to [[quality]] of [[perception]] and [[quantity]] of [[experience]]. The enlarging [[cosmic]] [[conceptions]] of an advancing [[spirit]] [[personality]] are due to augmentations of both [[depth]] of [[insight]] and scope of [[consciousness]]. And as [[personality]] passes on, [[Ascension Career|upward and inward]], to the [[transcendental]] levels of [[Deity]]-likeness, the [[time-space]] concept will increasingly approximate the timeless and spaceless concepts of [[the Absolutes]]. Relatively, and in [[accordance]] with [[transcendental]] [[attainment]], these concepts of the [[absolute]] level are to be envisioned by the [[children]] of [[ultimate]] [[destiny]].
<center>[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_130 Go to Paper 130]</center>
<center>[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Urantia_Text_-_Contents Go to Table of Contents]</center>
[[Category:Paper 130 - On the Way to Rome]]
