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Teacher: Clara, you wish discussion?

Clara Yes please.

 

ClaraYes please.

Teacher: Commence.

Teacher: Commence.

Teacher: This is in [[reference]] to the [[planes]] we have [[discussed]] before times?

 

Teacher: This is in reference to the planes we have discussed before times?

Yes.

Yes.

Teacher: You have but given them a differing title. What is it you wish for understanding?

Teacher: You have but given them a differing title. What is it you wish for [[understanding]]?

As we learn, do we develop to a different level or do we have to go through reincarnation to go through, up levels or can we reach those levels on this earth, at this time?

As we learn, do we [[develop]] to a different level or do we have to go through [[reincarnation]] to go through, up levels or can we reach those levels on this [[earth]], at this time?

Teacher: Yes. It is possible to reach or pass through each in your present life journey. During the life between physical journies you also have the possibility to pass through each and so on and on. What experience each time, is a deepening awareness of each. And throughout your life journey you may pass through each, and return again to any level in your words, to re-fathom and to reach a further depth, you are understanding?

Teacher: Yes. It is possible to reach or pass through each in your present life [[journey]]. During the life between [[physical]] journeys you also have the [[possibility]] to pass through each and so on and on. What [[experience]] each time, is a deepening [[awareness]] of each. And throughout your life journey you may pass through each, and return again to any level in your [[words]], to re-[[fathom]] and to reach a further depth, you are [[understanding]]?

ClaraYes, would we be on a level one here, or are some of us on a different level?

Clara Yes, would we be on a level one here, or are some of us on a [[different]] level?

Teacher: This is correct.

Teacher: This is correct.

Could I ask at what level I would be on now?

Could I ask at what level I would be on now?

Teacher: I have no need to answer your query. You are aware of this for yourself, and as I have said, each person has the possibility of travelling through each and returning to any of each level for a further depth of understanding.

Teacher: I have no need to answer your query. You are [[aware]] of this for yourself, and as I have said, each [[person]] has the possibility of travelling through each and returning to any of each level for a further depth of [[understanding]].

Thank you.

Thank you.

Then there are more queries

Then there are more queries

 

Charlemont I would like to go back to an earlier query of Petta's, to do with the Astral travel, I would like to know more of astral travel. Am I correct in my understanding that as we know astral travel, it is when higher consciousness is travelling in it's own sphere, that lower mind is also at that same place, is at the one place together, and lower mind can remember this, usually during sleep

Charlemont I would like to go back to an earlier query of Petta's, to do with the [[Astral travel]], I would like to know more of astral travel. Am I correct in my understanding that as we know astral travel, it is when [[higher consciousness]] is travelling in it's own sphere, that [[lower mind]] is also at that same place, is at the one place [[together]], and lower mind can remember this, usually during [[sleep]]

Teacher: One moment.

Teacher: One moment.

Your soul part, the essence of you, is attached to your physical body, rather as the unborn babe is attached to the physical body of the mother, yes? At times it is possible for soul to leave the confines of the physical body and go a journey of discovery for self. It is possible to be aware in the lower mind of this occurrence. It is possible not to be aware in the lower mind of this occurrence, but it is highly probable that self is aware of this occurrence.You are understanding?

Your [[soul]] part, the [[essence]] of you, is attached to your [[physical]] [[body]], rather as the unborn babe is attached to the [[physical]] body of the [[mother]], yes? At times it is possible for [[soul]] to leave the confines of the [[physical]] [[body]] and go a [[journey]] of [[discovery]] for [[self]]. It is possible to be [[aware]] in the [[lower mind]] of this occurrence. It is possible not to be [[aware]] in the lower mind of this occurrence, but it is highly probable that [[self]] is aware of this occurrence.You are [[understanding]]?

The most common we hear of are people that can see themselves, looking down in a room, they will see their physical self.

The most common we hear of are people that can see themselves, looking down in a room, they will see their [[physical]] [[self]].

Teacher: Correct.

Teacher: Correct.

And others say they have gone on the most incredible journies.

And others say they have gone on the most incredible [[journeys]].

Teacher: Correct.

Teacher: Correct.

What would lower mind learn from such things, just another dimension that higher mind is, consciousness is.

What would [[lower mind]] learn from such things, just another [[dimension]] that [[higher mind]] is, consciousness is.

Teacher: If lower mind is aware of this journey of self, it is learning of self, awareness of self, acceptance of self, and all there is. And how important self is, yes.

Teacher: If lower mind is [[aware]] of this [[journey]] of [[self]], it is [[learning]] of self, [[awareness]] of self, [[acceptance]] of self, and all there is. And how important self is, yes.

Charlemont It is also experienced, apparently many times by people that physically died, but had been brought back to life, one way or another.

Charlemont It is also [[experienced]], apparently many times by people that [[physically]] died, but had been brought back to life, one way or another.

Teacher: This is of a slight differing. At such times as this the physical body has ceased to function as a suitable vehicle but self realises it is not the correcting time for release, and so once again takes its place in the physical body.

Teacher: This is of a slight differing. At such times as this the [[physical]] [[body]] has ceased to [[function]] as a suitable vehicle but self realises it is not the [[correcting time]] for release, and so once again takes its place in the [[physical]] [[body]].

And by "miracle", the physical functions continue and there is a hint of an awareness that this has occurred. At times a very vivid awareness, at others none at all.

And by "[[miracle]]", the physical [[functions]] continue and there is a hint of an [[awareness]] that this has occurred. At times a very vivid awareness, at others none at all.

I wondered how this tied in with earlier statements Discussion of guides, where I'm sure everybody has experienced times when an inner voice has guided us in another direction away from a bad happening somewhere in the physical and I wonder whether that is guide tapping into higher self or just the higher consciousness knowing of this and nudging the physical away from that direction. Are these related in anyway to guidance, higher consciousness and even in some form of astral travel with higher consciousness, they'd know something was there?

I [[wondered]] how this tied in with earlier [[statements]] Discussion of guides, where I'm sure everybody has [[experienced]] times when an inner [[voice]] has guided us in another direction away from a bad happening somewhere in the [[physical]] and I [[wonder]] whether that is guide tapping into [[higher self]] or just the higher consciousness knowing of this and nudging the [[physical]] away from that direction. Are these related in anyway to [[guidance]], higher consciousness and even in some form of [[astral travel]] with higher consciousness, they'd know something was there?

Teacher: There is some confusion here.

Teacher: There is some [[confusion]] here.

Yes, I'm trying to relate three things together here wondering if they have a thin web joining in some way.

Yes, I'm trying to relate [[three]] things [[together]] here wondering if they have a thin web joining in some way.

Teacher: At times, there is a premonition of an event. This may be due to warning or guidance, and heeding of warning. At times, it is from an astral travel journey which has seen an event, and acknowledged by the physical, and heeded. At times, it is by guidance.

Teacher: At times, there is a [[premonition]] of an [[event]]. This may be due to [[warning]] or [[guidance]], and heeding of warning. At times, it is from an [[astral travel]] [[journey]] which has seen an [[event]], and acknowledged by the [[physical]], and heeded. At times, it is by [[guidance]].

Thank you, that's what I thought.

Thank you, that's what I thought.

Teacher: And most often by guidance, heeded, not heeded, more often, not heeded.

Teacher: And most often by [[guidance]], heeded, not heeded, more often, not heeded.

Tommas: I've read that animals sometimes act strangely prior to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquakes earthquakes] or other disasters, is this the [[difference]] in [[vibrations]]...

Tommas: I've read that animals sometimes act strangely prior to earthquakes or other disasters, is this the difference in vibrations...

Teacher: Correct, Animals operate on a very highly tuned [[frequency]], able to [[receive]] and [[transmit]] [[vibration]] [[frequencies]] un-felt, un-seen, un-heard by [[human]] kind. Because human kind are of a denser vibration frequency. This is clear for you?

Tommas: Yes, I've read of some countries using them as early [[warning]] devices.

 

Tommas: Yes, I've read of some countries using them as early warning devices.

Teacher: Correct.

Teacher: Correct.

Charlemont If we attain the higher consciousness, with the lower consciousness, would we also pick up a similar thing to animals, in that way?

Charlemont If we [[attain]] the [[higher consciousness]], with the lower consciousness, would we also pick up a similar thing to animals, in that way?

Teacher: It is a possibility.

Teacher: It is a [[possibility]].

Tommas: We sometimes sense danger, don't we?

Tommas: We sometimes sense [[danger]], don't we?

Teacher: Your senses are not used to being used for the purpose you were given them and these must also be re-learned.

Teacher: Your [[senses]] are not used to being used for the [[purpose]] you were given them and these must also be re-learned.

You have more queries?

You have more [[queries]]?

AldiinAbraham, this is Aldiin. Can my guide help me overcome the darker side of my nature?

AldiinAbraham, this is Aldiin. Can my guide help me overcome the darker side of my nature?

If it is your desire. As with all guidance, they do not inflict their will on yours. They may nudge, and if not heeded, they can do no more than wait until such time as you become aware and desirous of their guidance.

If it is your [[desire]]. As with all [[guidance]], they do not inflict their will on yours. They may nudge, and if not heeded, they can do no more than wait until such time as you become [[aware]] and [[desirous]] of their [[guidance]].

How can I obtain their guidance?

How can I obtain their [[guidance]]?

Teacher: In the stillness. You are aware of the stillness?

Teacher: In the [[stillness]]. You are [[aware]] of the stillness?

Not completely.

Not completely.

Teacher: Charlemont perhaps you will enlighten.

Teacher: Charlemont perhaps you will [[enlighten]].

Charles: Now Abraham, or after.

Charles: Now Abraham, or after.

Teacher: At the end of our appointment.

Teacher: At the end of our [[appointment]].

Yes, certainly.

Yes, certainly.

Teacher: This is of satisfaction.

Teacher: This is of [[satisfaction]].

AldiinYes, thank you.

Aldiin Yes, thank you.

Teacher: The stillness appears to be of ease to find, it is of difficulty, but once mastered, it is of ease. Two minutes of your 24 hours is sufficient unto your need to begin.

Teacher: The [[stillness]] appears to be of ease to find, it is of [[difficulty]], but once mastered, it is of ease. Two minutes of your 24 hours is sufficient unto your need to begin.

Then you have more queries, or you wish to close our appointment.

Then you have more [[queries]], or you wish to close our appointment.

MondaaI have a little confusion on a description you gave of my guide, as to whether he traded as a furrier or a farrier....

Mondaa I have a little [[confusion]] on a [[description]] you gave of my guide, as to whether he traded as a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furrier#Processing_of_fur furrier] or a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farrier farrier]....

Teacher: One moment. Furrier by trade.

Teacher: One moment. Furrier by trade.

Thank you Abraham.

Thank you Abraham.

PettaBelinda & I have both been thinking about abstract, and we were wondering if it was because neither of us have formed a picture of our guide, we are content to know our guide is there, without forming a picture is this why you say abstract because they are there in our mind, but we do not view them with a body or features.

Teacher: You have solved your [[problem]].

Teacher: You have solved your problem.

As you said, it was [[simple]].

Teacher: Of course, and you see, for some, it is not of importance to have a [[physical]] view of [[guidance]].

 

Teacher: Of course, and you see, for some, it is not of importance to have a physical view of guidance.

Belinda But why do we ask the questions, what does our guide look like and what does our guide do etc.

Belinda But why do we ask the questions, what does our guide look like and what does our guide do etc.

Teacher: You tell me. (much laughter) And you are of satisfaction.

Teacher: You tell me. (much [[laughter]]) And you are of [[satisfaction]].

PettaYes.

Petta Yes.

Teacher: Belinda?

Teacher: Belinda?

Belinda I suppose I really wanted to know if his nature was of a similar one do mine, but I suppose it must be, otherwise he wouldn’t be my guide.

Belinda I [[suppose]] I really wanted to know if his [[nature]] was of a similar one do mine, but I suppose it must be, otherwise he wouldn’t be my guide.

Teacher: Correct.You see, similar lesson learned, similar path trod.

Teacher: Correct.You see, similar lesson [[learned]], similar [[path]] trod.

So if you know yourself, then you know your guide?

So if you know yourself, then you know your guide?

Teacher: More or less. The best person for the job.

Teacher: More or less. The best person for the job.

BryoniI'm smiling here a little bit Abraham, because I get very confused in lots of things, and if my guide is of similar nature, it leaves a question mark.

Bryon iI'm smiling here a little bit Abraham, because I get very [[confused]] in lots of things, and if my guide is of similar [[nature]], it leaves a question mark.

Teacher: You become confused

Teacher: You become [[confused]]

Yes, you mentioned last week, I think it was, that we should always feel comfortable, and we'd know if we have made the right decision. I don't know whether I am alone in this, but often, if I am indecisive, the decision has been wrong, but I've felt comfortable with the decision, though it has been wrong, well I hadn’t found that applicable to me, I am a confused sort of person in fact, and I wondered if my guide was that way as well.

Yes, you mentioned last week, I think it was, that we should always feel comfortable, and we'd know if we have made the right [[decision]]. I don't know whether I am [[alone]] in this, but often, if I am indecisive, the [[decision]] has been wrong, but I've felt comfortable with the decision, though it has been wrong, well I hadn’t found that applicable to me, I am a [[confused]] sort of person in [[fact]], and I [[wondered]] if my guide was that way as well.

Teacher: Not so, perhaps you are not contacting your guidance as well as you had thought. And this is not castigation. When confusion comes, when indecision comes, and then is the time to contact guidance for clarity, for decision, yes,

Teacher: Not so, perhaps you are not [[contacting]] your [[guidance]] as well as you had [[thought]]. And this is not [[castigation]]. When confusion comes, when indecision comes, and then is the time to contact [[guidance]] for [[clarity]], for [[decision]], yes,

Thank you.

Thank you.

Teacher: You are welcome.

Teacher: You are [[welcome]].

Tommas: Is it possible for guides to fail in their role as a guide or not.

Tommas: Is it possible for guides to fail in their role as a guide or not.

Teacher: If so, they would not be guidance.

Teacher: If so, they would not be [[guidance]].

There comes a time when a new guide, who has been waiting in the wings, so to speak, to come forward and assist because of a new directive you are taking on your path.

There comes a time when a new guide, who has been waiting in the wings, so to speak, to come forward and [[assist]] because of a new directive you are taking on your [[path]].

Belinda And who guides our guides?

Belinda And who guides our guides?

Teacher: WHO???? (much laugher)

Teacher: WHO???? (much [[laugher]])

Teacher: The light, which is truth, which is love, which is GOD

Teacher: The [[light]], which is [[truth]], which is [[love]], which is [[GOD]]

 

As are you, yourself.

As are you, yourself.

Teacher: And what of Filip, he ponders still?

Teacher: And what of Filip, he [[ponders]] still?

Good question. Actually I was going to bring up the thing he was discussing last week, with you. It really concerns free will on my part. I feel that I am being, my free will is being taken away ay the decision that I am being asked to make, and my decision is not really the same as Filip’s, and I' m wondering if I stick with my decision, is it the right way.

Good question. Actually I was going to bring up the thing he was [[discussing]] last week, with you. It really concerns [[free will]] on my part. I feel that I am being, my free will is being taken away ay the decision that I am being asked to make, and my decision is not really the same as Filip’s, and I' m [[wondering]] if I stick with my decision, is it the right way.

Teacher: Yes, when a 3rd person, is concerned, and I assume this is correct, the other person should be consulted, and free will of that person should be consulted also, for a joint decision making exercise.

Teacher: Yes, when a 3rd person, is concerned, and I [[assume]] this is correct, the other person should be consulted, and free will of that person should be consulted also, for a joint decision making [[exercise]].

Yes, it's sort of two against one, I feel,

Yes, it's sort of two against one, I feel,

Teacher: Yes. You are receiving assistance for this.

Teacher: Yes. You are [[receiving]] [[assistance]] for this.

Yes, sort of. But I don't know whether the assistance is going to be of use.

Yes, sort of. But I don't know whether the assistance is going to be of use.

Yes.

Yes.

Teacher: And what is battle, conflict, and what do you have with conflict, victims, refugees. There are never conquerors, but there may come a peaceful resolution from revolution.

Teacher: And what is battle, [[conflict]], and what do you have with conflict, [[victims]], [[refugees]]. There are never [[conquerors]], but there may come a [[peaceful]] resolution from [[revolution]].

This isn’t really my problem, because I don't feel I have a problem, it’s more the other two parties that are in conflict. I appear to be in the middle, trying to keep the peace.

This isn’t really my [[problem]], because I don't feel I have a problem, it’s more the other two parties that are in [[conflict]]. I appear to be in the middle, trying to keep the [[peace]].

Teacher: You are meditating. The runner, the message bearer, not an enviable position. It is possible for you to remove yourself from this position, and to become a spectator.

Teacher: You are [[meditating]]. The runner, the [[message]] bearer, not an enviable position. It is possible for you to remove yourself from this position, and to become a [[spectator]].

BelindaYes, I have tried to do that before though, but if I didn’t say anything, then I felt that things wouldn’t turn out right. What should happen, I feel, won't happen.

Belinda Yes, I have tried to do that before though, but if I didn’t say anything, then I felt that things wouldn’t turn out right. What should happen, I feel, won't happen.

Teacher: So you are the Emperor, you have two gladiators.

Teacher: So you are the [[Emperor]], you have two [[Warrior|gladiators]].

You give the thumbs signal yes?

You give the thumbs signal yes?

'Yes, very much so.

'Yes, very much so.

Teacher: The slings and arrows of conflict, do not direct them towards yourself. Remove yourself, if possible in. emotion and thought, not of necessity of the physical, stand aside.You know the situation; it is for you to decide. Using the assistance you receive.

Teacher: The slings and arrows of [[conflict]], do not direct them towards yourself. Remove yourself, if possible in. [[emotion]] and [[thought]], not of [[necessity]] of the [[physical]], stand aside.You know the situation; it is for you to [[decide]]. Using the [[assistance]] you receive.

So my decision will not necessarily be the wrong one.

So my [[decision]] will not necessarily be the wrong one.

Teacher: Correct.

Teacher: Correct.

And yet, Filip last week, did feel that his decision was the right one, and yet it's not as it's the opposite to mine.

And yet, Filip last week, did feel that his [[decision]] was the right one, and yet it's not as it's the [[opposite]] to mine.

Teacher: And what of the 3rd person

Teacher: And what of the 3rd person

I'll just stand aside like you suggest arid take it from there.

I'll just stand aside like you suggest arid take it from there.

Teacher: Arm yourself with calm.

Teacher: Arm yourself with [[calm]].

I could try the figure 8 of light around the other two parties, couldn’t I?

I could try the figure 8 of light around the other two parties, couldn’t I?

Teacher: You could. I wish you well in your endeavours. There are more queries?

Teacher: You could. I wish you well in your endeavours. There are more queries?

MeldaIn the last lesson, the last meeting, a mention was made of the use of the mirror, to reflect back antagonism to an instigator. Lately I've been using another method and I'd like you to comment on it please. Firstly I imagine a place of complete security, this place is filled with the harmony of love which completely envelopes me. I become one with that vibration, I enter a state of perfect serenity, my feeling at this point is that my aura is extensively, an extensive field of positive radiation, and the thread which had united the antagonism to me seems to pulsate in a positive manner and draw the antagonism, the antagonistic negativity towards me, as it enters my aura, the negativity is neutralized, the pulsation along the thread becomes positive again and travels in this form to the instigator of the previous antagonism. Is this a form of returning good for evil and is this the best way that I can do that, is there a better way?

Melda In the last lesson, the last meeting, a mention was made of the use of the [[mirror]], to [[reflect]] back [[antagonism]] to an instigator. Lately I've been using another [[method]] and I'd like you to comment on it please. Firstly I [[imagine]] a place of complete [[security]], this place is filled with the [[harmony]] of [[love]] which completely envelopes me. I become one with that [[vibration]], I enter a state of [[perfect]] [[serenity]], my [[feeling]] at this point is that my [[aura]] is extensively, an extensive field of [[positive]] [[radiation]], and the thread which had united the antagonism to me seems to [[pulsate]] in a positive manner and draw the antagonism, the antagonistic [[negativity]] towards me, as it enters my [[aura]], the negativity is neutralized, the [[pulsation]] along the thread becomes [[positive]] again and travels in this form to the instigator of the previous antagonism. Is this a form of returning [[good]] for [[evil]] and is this the best way that I can do that, is there a better way?

Teacher: It is a good way. You are washing clean, yes. You see, by returning good vibration, you do not reflect the antagonism back to the transmitter, as with a mirror. You are understanding?

Teacher: It is a good way. You are washing clean, yes. You see, by returning [[good]] [[vibration]], you do not reflect the antagonism back to the [[transmitter]], as with a [[mirror]]. You are [[understanding]]?

MeldaYes.

MeldaYes.

===Closing===

===Closing===

Teacher: Yes. Then, if there are no more queries, I shall leave you with this: -

Teacher: Yes. Then, if there are no more queries, I shall leave you with this: -