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S: I know, I wanted to be there. I knew that was a very special, and I would think [[powerful]], time. I had all kinds of great [[intent]] and [[food]] to go there that night. I knew in my [[heart]] that my choice was fine, along the lines of [[worship]]. (08/28/93)

S: I know, I wanted to be there. I knew that was a very special, and I would think [[powerful]], time. I had all kinds of great [[intent]] and [[food]] to go there that night. I knew in my [[heart]] that my choice was fine, along the lines of [[worship]]. (08/28/93)

===PSYCHOLOGY AND SPIRITUALITY===

===='''''[[Discernment]]''''', '''''[[Vision]]'''''====

Q: Rayson, with regards to these lessons, doesn't personal ministry, then, effect a balance of psychology and spirituality? Isn't it impossible to avoid the psychology in personal ministry?

A: I am not clear on how you mean "[[psychology]]."

A: I am not clear on how you mean "psychology."

Q: Meaning that it's [[difficult]] to "minister to someone that's ailing or seeking answers [[spiritually]] if you are not [[conscious]] or [[attuned]] to their psychological [[context]]? It seems that [[Jesus]] was incredibly [[perceptive]] in terms of the people that He came in [[contact]] with - where they were at, [[emotionally]], [[psychologically]], at that moment. And that affected what He could [[reveal]] or how much he could affect them spiritually.  

Q: Meaning that it's difficult to "minister to someone that's ailing or seeking answers spiritually if you are not conscious or attuned to their psychological context? It seems that Jesus was incredibly perceptive in terms of the people that He came in contact with - where they were at, emotionally, psychologically, at that moment. And that affected what He could reveal or how much he could affect them spiritually. A. That is correct. Jesus was adept at seeing into a person's soul, and assessing what they really needed in spite of what they may say they wanted or needed. For example, the boy who was afraid, who declared that he did not want to interact or need anything, and as Jesus engaged him, saw that, immediately knew, he was dealing with fear unsuccessfully, and then engaged him in a way which bolstered his confidence as he was in actuality helping him.

A. That is correct. [[Jesus]] was [[adept]] at seeing into a [[person]]'s [[soul]], and [[assessing]] what they really needed in spite of what they may say they wanted or needed. For example, the boy who was [[afraid]], who [[declared]] that he did not want to [[interact]] or need anything, and as [[Jesus]] [[engaged]] him, saw that, [[immediately]] knew, he was dealing with [[fear]] unsuccessfully, and then engaged him in a way which bolstered his [[confidence]] as he was in actuality helping him.

Q: This was when he asked for directions?

Q: This was when he asked for [[directions]]?

A: Yes. However you must keep in mind that often what a person verbalizes is not what they really crave. The spiritual is always the bread of life. So psychology can be used in two way

A: Yes. However you must keep in mind that often what a person verbalizes is not what they really crave. The [[spiritual]] is always the bread of life. So [[psychology]] can be used in two ways

S: one is your ability to assess where the other human is at and what their real needs might be, and two, the other person's own psychology of using mindal mechanisms to deny spiritual needs, or disguise spiritual needs. And these are two different usage of psychology in that situation. Your own ability to see others clearly will depend in part on your spiritual sight to see beyond the external to the soul within.

S: one is your [[ability]] to [[assess]] where the other [[human]] is at and what their real needs might be, and two, the other person's own [[psychology]] of using mindal [[mechanisms]] to deny [[spiritual]] needs, or [[disguise]] spiritual needs. And these are two [[different]] uses of [[psychology]] in that situation. Your own [[ability]] to see others [[clearly]] will depend in part on your spiritual [[sight]] to see beyond the external to the [[soul]] within.

Q: So then that feeling, then, that (S) is capable of, and that I have experienced, sometimes it's really like spiritual sight, and sometimes it feels to humans like X-ray vision. (Yes.) And do you counsel that? (Absolutely.) Because X-ray vision is not necessarily a manifestation of ego, then. Sometimes it's looking through spiritual eyes.

Q: So then that [[feeling]], then, that (S) is capable of, and that I have [[experienced]], sometimes it's really like [[spiritual]] [[sight]], and sometimes it [[feels]] to humans like [[X-ray]] [[vision]]. (Yes.) And do you [[counsel]] that? (Absolutely.) Because [[X-ray]] vision is not necessarily a [[manifestation]] of [[ego]], then. Sometimes it's looking through spiritual eyes.

A: Correct. (05/29/93)

A: Correct. (05/29/93)