Changes

From Nordan Symposia
Jump to navigationJump to search
m
Text replacement - "http://" to "https://"
Line 55: Line 55:  
L2: "Daniel, this is L2. Are you available to attend a family [[meeting]] with my [[family]] tomorrow night. If not, another time?"
 
L2: "Daniel, this is L2. Are you available to attend a family [[meeting]] with my [[family]] tomorrow night. If not, another time?"
   −
Daniel: "One moment... Yes, I verified this with D3. She also can meet at your convenience tomorrow evening. I will be glad to attend. I would like to take this [[opportunity]] to talk about [[family]] meetings. B1 and L2 are to be commended for their seeing these types of [[activities]] occur in their [[home]]. Through [[family]] [[meetings]] you can set up a [[system]] where not only the [[parents]] are heard, but he [[children]] as well. If we [[hope]] to bring the next [[generation]] in line with these teachings then we need to [[change]] the [[home]] life in many ways. In family meetings a more [[democratic]] type of system can be [[shared]]. It is true that the [[parents]] are the providers, the caretakers and they should have the final say so. However, if [[children]] are not given the [[chance]] to present their [[Perspective|side]], then you are not allowing them to [[grow]]. In their presenting their side there can be many workable [[plans]] put forth which otherwise would not even be [[thought]] about. If those of you who have not done so are and still able to, then implementing these [[family]] [[meetings]] would be most beneficial. There are a [[number]] of [[books]] available on this. I know that both B1 and D3 have books on family meetings that have been put out through the [http://www.urantia.org Urantia Foundation]. They, I'm sure, will [[share]]. If you have [[friends]] who are having [[difficulty]] with their children you may want to check on this book for them as well. For now I will not take any more time on this. It is however a very important issue as the [[children]] will be the [[parents]] of tomorrow and we know in order for this [[planet]] to move ahead more [[parenting]] [[skills]] and [[understanding]] of [[children]] is [[necessary]]."
+
Daniel: "One moment... Yes, I verified this with D3. She also can meet at your convenience tomorrow evening. I will be glad to attend. I would like to take this [[opportunity]] to talk about [[family]] meetings. B1 and L2 are to be commended for their seeing these types of [[activities]] occur in their [[home]]. Through [[family]] [[meetings]] you can set up a [[system]] where not only the [[parents]] are heard, but he [[children]] as well. If we [[hope]] to bring the next [[generation]] in line with these teachings then we need to [[change]] the [[home]] life in many ways. In family meetings a more [[democratic]] type of system can be [[shared]]. It is true that the [[parents]] are the providers, the caretakers and they should have the final say so. However, if [[children]] are not given the [[chance]] to present their [[Perspective|side]], then you are not allowing them to [[grow]]. In their presenting their side there can be many workable [[plans]] put forth which otherwise would not even be [[thought]] about. If those of you who have not done so are and still able to, then implementing these [[family]] [[meetings]] would be most beneficial. There are a [[number]] of [[books]] available on this. I know that both B1 and D3 have books on family meetings that have been put out through the [https://www.urantia.org Urantia Foundation]. They, I'm sure, will [[share]]. If you have [[friends]] who are having [[difficulty]] with their children you may want to check on this book for them as well. For now I will not take any more time on this. It is however a very important issue as the [[children]] will be the [[parents]] of tomorrow and we know in order for this [[planet]] to move ahead more [[parenting]] [[skills]] and [[understanding]] of [[children]] is [[necessary]]."
    
V1: "This [[conversation]] reminds me of a [[book]] I finished today by [Maria Montessori and the way she approaches treatment of children. And I'm not sure how to word this but she seems so far ahead of her time that I am wondering if indeed she really wasn't a member of the Corps of Destiny with her cosmic attitude toward the world and women and children. She is a hundred years ahead of where our planet is, even now. If you can comment on that...."
 
V1: "This [[conversation]] reminds me of a [[book]] I finished today by [Maria Montessori and the way she approaches treatment of children. And I'm not sure how to word this but she seems so far ahead of her time that I am wondering if indeed she really wasn't a member of the Corps of Destiny with her cosmic attitude toward the world and women and children. She is a hundred years ahead of where our planet is, even now. If you can comment on that...."
Line 63: Line 63:  
B1: "One more tape to switch here while you are getting D3 under control."(laughter and group comments)
 
B1: "One more tape to switch here while you are getting D3 under control."(laughter and group comments)
   −
Daniel: "Yes that can be a problem at times but she is trying her best. She is very much involved with the life and works of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_montesorri Maria Montessori]. As time moves forward the works of this great lady will find more [[influence]]. She will find more [[schools]] in her name because of her [[democratic]] and loving approach to child rearing and to life."  
+
Daniel: "Yes that can be a problem at times but she is trying her best. She is very much involved with the life and works of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_montesorri Maria Montessori]. As time moves forward the works of this great lady will find more [[influence]]. She will find more [[schools]] in her name because of her [[democratic]] and loving approach to child rearing and to life."  
   −
B1: "Daniel, I failed to introduce a [[friend]] of mine before we began asking [[questions]]. I would like to introduce to you B3 Schrieber from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Falls_High_School American Falls High School] where I work with him. He is a high school [[counselor]] and he has been a [[reader]] of the [[Urantia book]] we think now in his third year. And I have shared with him [[Ham]]'s teachings and also your teachings."
+
B1: "Daniel, I failed to introduce a [[friend]] of mine before we began asking [[questions]]. I would like to introduce to you B3 Schrieber from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Falls_High_School American Falls High School] where I work with him. He is a high school [[counselor]] and he has been a [[reader]] of the [[Urantia book]] we think now in his third year. And I have shared with him [[Ham]]'s teachings and also your teachings."
    
Daniel: "Welcome B3. And while we are on this, let me say that you are doing well in your bringing in new members. So far there have been no [[problems]]. You are aware of the problems that would arise if these teachings were [[exploited]], so keep your [[minds]] open to that [[possibility]] and things will [[progress]] nicely."
 
Daniel: "Welcome B3. And while we are on this, let me say that you are doing well in your bringing in new members. So far there have been no [[problems]]. You are aware of the problems that would arise if these teachings were [[exploited]], so keep your [[minds]] open to that [[possibility]] and things will [[progress]] nicely."
Line 83: Line 83:  
Daniel: "Yes, K3. To begin with as you increase your [[knowledge]] in the [[Urantia Book]] teaching you will [[discover]] that there are no longer any [[negative]] or [[evil]] spirits. The [[devil]], [[Satan]], [[Caligastia]], [[Lucifer]], are no longer on this [[planet]]. The [[negative]] of which you [[speak]] is that which is in the [[mind]] of man itself. You are most correct when you stated that are [[Paper 30 - Personalities of the Grand Universe|many kinds of beings]]. I am able to [[discern]] many. There are many, many more that even I am unaware of. If you could see this room now you would [[wonder]] how we all could fit in it.(uproarious [[laughter]]) So in your search I know you are in much [[struggle]] and you are seeking answers. You are correctly on the right [[path]] wanting to know more [[truth]]. D3 has conveyed to me that you [[wish]] a [[private]] session which will come about. Please check with her on a time and day. I would suggest that you talk with other members who have [[read]] [[Urantia text|the book]]. They can guide you to certain sections that will help you in [[understanding]] some of your [[questions]]. Perhaps starting with the [[Lucifer rebellion]] itself. B1, either one, will you please give him the page for that. When we have our private session we can further [[discuss]] some of your concerns. I think that would be best for now. Know, though, that there are [[Paper 30 - Personalities of the Grand Universe|many kinds of spirits]], yes."
 
Daniel: "Yes, K3. To begin with as you increase your [[knowledge]] in the [[Urantia Book]] teaching you will [[discover]] that there are no longer any [[negative]] or [[evil]] spirits. The [[devil]], [[Satan]], [[Caligastia]], [[Lucifer]], are no longer on this [[planet]]. The [[negative]] of which you [[speak]] is that which is in the [[mind]] of man itself. You are most correct when you stated that are [[Paper 30 - Personalities of the Grand Universe|many kinds of beings]]. I am able to [[discern]] many. There are many, many more that even I am unaware of. If you could see this room now you would [[wonder]] how we all could fit in it.(uproarious [[laughter]]) So in your search I know you are in much [[struggle]] and you are seeking answers. You are correctly on the right [[path]] wanting to know more [[truth]]. D3 has conveyed to me that you [[wish]] a [[private]] session which will come about. Please check with her on a time and day. I would suggest that you talk with other members who have [[read]] [[Urantia text|the book]]. They can guide you to certain sections that will help you in [[understanding]] some of your [[questions]]. Perhaps starting with the [[Lucifer rebellion]] itself. B1, either one, will you please give him the page for that. When we have our private session we can further [[discuss]] some of your concerns. I think that would be best for now. Know, though, that there are [[Paper 30 - Personalities of the Grand Universe|many kinds of spirits]], yes."
 
===='''''[[12 Step Programs]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[12 Step Programs]]'''''====
B1: "Daniel are you familiar with the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_step_program 12 step program] that was first developed by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous Alcoholics Anonymous] but is now used in various forms by a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_twelve-step_groups number of other groups] that are directed towards the improvement of individuals lives according to whatever they perceive to be the major [[problem]] in their lives, and if so is it..I have had this thought that perhaps the 12 step program had some help from beyond merely [[human]] [[origins]]. Do you know if that's a [[fact]]?"
+
B1: "Daniel are you familiar with the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_step_program 12 step program] that was first developed by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous Alcoholics Anonymous] but is now used in various forms by a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_twelve-step_groups number of other groups] that are directed towards the improvement of individuals lives according to whatever they perceive to be the major [[problem]] in their lives, and if so is it..I have had this thought that perhaps the 12 step program had some help from beyond merely [[human]] [[origins]]. Do you know if that's a [[fact]]?"
   −
Daniel: "In most cases where there seems to be a great upliftment for people there is usually work on this side being done and [[prepared]] for those who are open to hear. I cannot say for sure, I do not know of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_step_program#Twelve_Traditions 12 steps] individually, only as it is called, I am familiar with it. One moment.....While this [[program]] is beneficial it does often keep people from [[Growth|moving on]]. It has helped many, many for sure. Often, however, those people who have not [[learned]] to [[accept]] any [[self]] [[responsibility]] tend to remain so. This plan, this program, did have some help from this side. It does much [[good]]. It needs to go further in helping those people who tend to say, 'Well, that's just me, that's the way I am'. These people need to know that that is you, but [[change]] is possible and it doesn't have to be you. Is that [[clear]]?"
+
Daniel: "In most cases where there seems to be a great upliftment for people there is usually work on this side being done and [[prepared]] for those who are open to hear. I cannot say for sure, I do not know of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_step_program#Twelve_Traditions 12 steps] individually, only as it is called, I am familiar with it. One moment.....While this [[program]] is beneficial it does often keep people from [[Growth|moving on]]. It has helped many, many for sure. Often, however, those people who have not [[learned]] to [[accept]] any [[self]] [[responsibility]] tend to remain so. This plan, this program, did have some help from this side. It does much [[good]]. It needs to go further in helping those people who tend to say, 'Well, that's just me, that's the way I am'. These people need to know that that is you, but [[change]] is possible and it doesn't have to be you. Is that [[clear]]?"
    
B1: "Yes, in fact I've had exactly the same [[opinions]]. I'm very [[encouraged]] to hear this. And I have the same [[feeling]] about people who regard the [[Urantia Book]]'s truths as [[absolutely]] final and therefor refuse to believe that the [[Lucifer rebellion]] has been [[adjudicated]], for example, because they are not open to the new [[truth]] that you teachers are teaching. If I [[understood]] you [[Daniel]] you are saying that the 12 steps is an excellent program but it isn't [[sacred]], it isn't..if you stay with that and you can't add anything to it you are going to get stuck. At least that's what I think happens sometimes to people in this program. Did I [[understand]] you correctly?"
 
B1: "Yes, in fact I've had exactly the same [[opinions]]. I'm very [[encouraged]] to hear this. And I have the same [[feeling]] about people who regard the [[Urantia Book]]'s truths as [[absolutely]] final and therefor refuse to believe that the [[Lucifer rebellion]] has been [[adjudicated]], for example, because they are not open to the new [[truth]] that you teachers are teaching. If I [[understood]] you [[Daniel]] you are saying that the 12 steps is an excellent program but it isn't [[sacred]], it isn't..if you stay with that and you can't add anything to it you are going to get stuck. At least that's what I think happens sometimes to people in this program. Did I [[understand]] you correctly?"

Navigation menu