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==PART I==
==PART I==
==='''''[[Teaching Mission]]''''', '''''[[Purpose]]'''''===
===='''''[[Teaching Mission]]''''', '''''[[Purpose]]'''''====
Q: What kind of [[cooperation]] is [[desired]] of us for the [[teaching mission]] to do the most [[good]]?
Q: What kind of [[cooperation]] is [[desired]] of us for the [[teaching mission]] to do the most [[good]]?
A: (long pause.) There are many [[complicated]] issues involved, and I am not allowed to give further information. (03/28/93)
A: (long pause.) There are many [[complicated]] issues involved, and I am not allowed to give further information. (03/28/93)
===='''''[[Service]]'''''====
Q: [To Teacher BERTRAND] A [[thought]] has been growing in my [[mind]] since I first became [[aware]] of this teaching mission that the teaching groups serve a number of [[purposes]], including protected [[practice]] areas where each of us can develop whatever [[skills]] are relevant to our [[personal]] missions. For example, [[healing]] skills, [[transmitting]]/receiving skills, and will also help us to [[accelerate]] our own spiritual growth. My sense is that, as the teaching mission [[progresses]], people who have reached a certain [[stage]] of ripeness or [[maturation]] with respect to their [[participation]] in a teaching group will kind of [[graduate]] to start to serve their [[mission]] in the world at large, whatever that may be.
Q: [To Teacher BERTRAND] A [[thought]] has been growing in my [[mind]] since I first became [[aware]] of this teaching mission that the teaching groups serve a number of [[purposes]], including protected [[practice]] areas where each of us can develop whatever [[skills]] are relevant to our [[personal]] missions. For example, [[healing]] skills, [[transmitting]]/receiving skills, and will also help us to [[accelerate]] our own spiritual growth. My sense is that, as the teaching mission [[progresses]], people who have reached a certain [[stage]] of ripeness or [[maturation]] with respect to their [[participation]] in a teaching group will kind of [[graduate]] to start to serve their [[mission]] in the world at large, whatever that may be.
A: [BERTRAND] that is true. The teaching mission is designed to prepare [[students]] for their missions. Once they have reached a certain level of [[preparedness]] they will be coaxed out of the nest and with loving care and guidance of their Thought Adjuster and their personal teacher strike forth into the world bearing the banner of Michael in whatever way has been determined. This is, indeed, a practice ground for your future assignment. In our class we have been studying many different levels of service, of recognizing truth seekers, of spreading the love of God. The same has occurred here. And eventually you will go forth secure in the knowledge that you have the skills necessary to undertake the assignment you have been given. On the teaching worlds, the Melchizedek teaching worlds, you are given assignments and you are given full knowledge and full help to complete that assignment. The same occurs here. This is a Melchizedek teaching mission. You are given an assignment and you will be given all the tools necessary to complete that assignment. You are beginning the morontia lessons now. Q: Additionally, as we progress with this, I have an increasingly strong sense that each of us has received clear statement of our mission at the time of the endowment of our Thought Adjuster, and that statement is finally seen by us when we reach a stage of ripeness or spiritual maturity such as we achieve in this teaching mission.
A: [BERTRAND] that is true. The [[Teaching Mission]] is designed to [[prepare]] [[students]] for their [[missions]]. Once they have reached a certain level of [[preparedness]] they will be coaxed out of the nest and with loving [[care]] and [[guidance]] of their [[Thought Adjuster]] and their personal teacher strike forth into the world bearing the [[banner of Michael]] in whatever way has been determined. This is, indeed, a [[practice]] ground for your [[future]] [[assignment]]. In our class we have been studying many [[different]] levels of service, of recognizing [[truth]] [[seekers]], of spreading the love of God. The same has occurred here. And [[eventually]] you will go forth secure in the [[knowledge]] that you have the skills [[necessary]] to undertake the [[assignment]] you have been given. On the teaching worlds, the [[Melchizedek teaching worlds]], you are given [[assignments]] and you are given full [[knowledge]] and full help to complete that assignment. The same occurs here. This is a [[Melchizedek]] Teaching Mission. You are given an [[assignment]] and you will be given all the [[tools]] [[necessary]] to complete that assignment. You are beginning the [[morontia]] lessons now.
Q: Additionally, as we [[progress]] with this, I have an increasingly [[strong]] sense that each of us has [[received]] clear [[statement]] of our [[mission]] at the time of the [[endowment]] of our [[Thought Adjuster]], and that [[statement]] is finally seen by us when we reach a [[stage]] of ripeness or spiritual [[maturity]] such as we achieve in this teaching mission.
R: If there are no other comments or questions, then I do have one final statement regarding the nature of the channeling that is and has occurred, is occurring. These lessons are not intended to be a reiteration of Urantia Book statements, nor are they intended to be a grilling opportunity for the one who has offered to channel. This is not an oral examination of the entity, nor of the human. Rather, the lessons are an expression of the understanding of spiritual principles by the entity as transmitted through the human channel with the understanding that the human channel attaches to these principles. It is impossible to avoid a flavoring that is added by the intellect and beliefs of the channel or transmitter/receiver. But it is not in the interests of the teaching mission to split hairs over such biases unless the group finds them so pervasive that they interfere with the material of the lesson, in which case a different channel should be sought. If this is your sense with respect to the present channel, then please take the appropriate action.
A: At the time the [[Thought Adjuster]] [[chooses]] you, he is given - as you have read - a [[projection]] of your life [[mission]]. Once you become [[aware]] of the [[presence]] of [[God within you]], it then becomes your task - through the [[practice]] of the [[stillness]] - to [[discover]] what that mission is. You are correct.
===='''''[[Transmitting]]'''''====
R: If there are no other comments or questions, then I do have one final [[statement]] regarding the nature of the [[channeling]] that is and has occurred, is occurring. These lessons are not intended to be a reiteration of [[Urantia Book]] [[statements]], nor are they intended to be a grilling [[opportunity]] for the one who has offered to [[channel]]. This is not an oral examination of the [[entity]], nor of the [[human]]. Rather, the lessons are an [[expression]] of the [[understanding]] of spiritual [[principles]] by the entity as [[transmitted]] through the human [[channel]] with the understanding that the human channel attaches to these principles. It is impossible to avoid a flavoring that is added by the [[intellect]] and [[beliefs]] of the channel or [[transmitter/receiver]]. But it is not in the interests of the [[Teaching Mission]] to split hairs over such biases unless the [[group]] finds them so pervasive that they [[interfere]] with the material of the lesson, in which case a different channel should be sought. If this is your sense with [[respect]] to the present channel, then please take the appropriate [[action]].
S: Rayson, every time I come here I leave with two things. I'm coming from a point of not being able to fit in here because as you know my background with the Urantia Book is very rudimentary at this point. However, there are two things that stand out for me. I always get something validated, either a belief system or a slight idea that's beginning to grow, and it always happens that you confirm that. And that's a great feeling. And the second thing that I always get is like a new jumping off point in terms of concept. It's like a giant - you talk about the stairs - but for me they're like big blocks, and every time I come here, I come away with a feeling of having jumped higher to a bigger block. And I take that away and am able to use it, and my sense of it is that if that's what I go away with then the mission has been accomplished for that one meeting. Is that accurate?
S: Rayson, every time I come here I leave with two things. I'm coming from a [[point]] of not being able to fit in here because as you know my background with the [[Urantia Book]] is very rudimentary at this point. However, there are two things that stand out for me. I always get something [[validated]], either a [[belief]] system or a slight [[idea]] that's beginning to [[grow]], and it always happens that you [[confirm]] that. And that's a great [[feeling]]. And the second thing that I always get is like a new jumping off point in terms of [[concept]]. It's like a giant - you talk about the stairs - but for me they're like big blocks, and every time I come here, I come away with a [[feeling]] of having jumped higher to a bigger block. And I take that away and am able to use it, and my sense of it is that if that's what I go away with then [[the mission]] has been accomplished for that one meeting. Is that [[accurate]]?
A: If those are your feelings, then yes, it is accurate.
A: If those are your feelings, then yes, it is accurate.
S: Rayson, I want to thank you again and again, and I really enjoy the relationship you have with (T/R). It's wonderful, and I think everyone in the room should comment on this statement.
S: Rayson, I want to thank you again and again, and I really enjoy the [[relationship]] you have with ([[T/R]]). It's wonderful, and I think everyone in the room should comment on this [[statement]].
S2: Definitely, I would like to right away. I agree that splitting hairs can certainly get in the way of the objective of the mission. But I would also say that for me personally today the conversation ended up making me understand the lesson even better. But I am certainly concerned that it might undermine the confidence of the T/R or channel. I hope that it has not, because I believe the spirit of the questioning is always in the interest of understanding the ideas that you are trying to communicate to us. For me, at least on this occasion, it really did have the benefit of helping me to really understand the lesson even better.
S2: Definitely, I would like to right away. I [[agree]] that splitting hairs can certainly get in the way of the [[objective]] of [[the mission]]. But I would also say that for me [[personally]] today the [[conversation]] ended up making me [[understand]] the lesson even better. But I am certainly concerned that it might undermine the [[confidence]] of the [[T/R]] or channel. I hope that it has not, because I believe the spirit of the [[questioning]] is always in the interest of [[understanding]] the [[ideas]] that you are trying to [[communicate]] to us. For me, at least on this occasion, it really did have the benefit of helping me to really understand the lesson even better.
S3: Yes, I'd like to echo that, and I understand, being a TR myself that sometimes something that someone says could hurt the feelings of the T/R who - even though as hard as he or she might try to stay out of the way - can't help hear - some of the words. My intent is not to split hairs but I have that kind of a mind that when something is not clear, I like to have it clarified or I like to clarify it myself. And any ensuing discussion which is brought about because of that, I feel, is good. It has been my understanding that the teachers welcome sincere discussion because that is what causes good relationships among peoples and beings. That was my intent, and I hope that you are not discouraging any of this in the future. I'd like (T/R) to become aware that I hold her with utmost respect and admiration for doing this, and that I really hope that she is not hurt in any way from any comments that I might make.
S3: Yes, I'd like to [[echo]] that, and I [[understand]], being a [[TR]] myself that sometimes something that someone says could [[hurt]] the [[feelings]] of the T/R who - even though as hard as he or she might try to stay out of the way - can't help hear - some of the [[words]]. My intent is not to split hairs but I have that kind of a [[mind]] that when something is not [[clear]], I like to have it clarified or I like to clarify it myself. And any ensuing discussion which is brought about because of that, I [[feel]], is good. It has been my [[understanding]] that the teachers welcome sincere [[discussion]] because that is what causes good [[relationships]] among peoples and beings. That was my intent, and I hope that you are not discouraging any of this in the [[future]]. I'd like (T/R) to become aware that I hold her with utmost respect and admiration for doing this, and that I really [[hope]] that she is not hurt in any way from any comments that I might make.
S4: I think it's very important - I am particularly bad at this and continue to try to learn to do this better - it's very, very important to learn to phrase a question or a comment so that it is completely nonconfrontive. And maybe you have to think about it for a long time before you come up with just the right wording, but it's all important in my mind.
S4: I think it's very important - I am particularly bad at this and continue to try to learn to do this better - it's very, very important to learn to phrase a question or a comment so that it is completely nonconfrontive. And maybe you have to [[think]] about it for a long time before you come up with just the right wording, but it's all important in my [[mind]].
S5: Rayson, I never thought of changing TR's. I feel so comfortable with (T/R) and you and the relationship you have. I really enjoyed the discussion, though I guess at the time it seemed a little confrontational. The results seem to have been beneficial, and I hope that both you and (T/R) are alright with that.
S5: Rayson, I never thought of changing [[TR]]'s. I feel so comfortable with (T/R) and you and the [[relationship]] you have. I really enjoyed the [[discussion]], though I guess at the time it seemed a little [[confrontational]]. The results seem to have been beneficial, and I hope that both you and (T/R) are alright with that.
===='''''[[[Perspective]]'''''====
R: In answer to all of your comments, I offer this. It is not only the [[biases]] of the [[channel]] that may make a particular lesson or [[concept]] seem at variance with what you read in [[Urantia book]], it is also the bias of the [[teacher]]. Not every teacher, including myself, sees particular items exactly as they are presented in [[your book]], and you have all [[experienced]] this through this channel and other channels, if you recall. It is not my job as a [[teacher]] to this group to [[reiterate]] [[the book]]. That was already done quite well by many others, most of whom are at a much higher rank than I hold in the grand scheme. Rather, it is my job to try to present concepts at the human level through a [[human]]'s [[brain]] and a human's mouth and respond to [[discussion]]. And that does seem to be happening adequately with the channels that exist, and the ones who are being [[prepared]]. This is not meant to be a legalistic [[exercise]] in [[theology]], and it is important that you all [[understand]] that. There are other avenues that can be pursued if you wish to have legalistic [[discussions]] in [[theology]]. They are not in place yet, but will be offered in [[future]]. I am certainly not a perfect [[authority]] on the matters of [[the universe]]. I only offer my own [[vantage point]].
S: Rayson, you are well-suited for this group and we do [[love]] you.
S2: Yes, indeed and we do appreciate and get [[inspiration]] and [[motivation]] from your lessons. They are wonderful, and I'm glad it's not a [[reiteration]] of the [[Urantia book]]. We have eyes to [[read]] with.
S3: I just marvel at how [[adept]] you are, Rayson, at [[coordinating]] different parts of the [[Urantia book]] which are not connected in the book itself. For example, the concept of [[worship]] is completely different from the [[art of living]] which is given in the [[Rodan]] papers, and I was marveling, during the course of the [[morning]], how well you were doing with the different concepts in the [[Urantia book]] and in the [[Rodan]] papers. I [[congratulate]] you.
R: You must remember, my [[friends]], that I too was a [[mortal]] being once, and not only do I have my own [[biases]] as a mortal being, but I have my biases from my [[existence]] beyond that life and I am not of the level of those who transmitted the papers.
S: We [[understand]] that. We sure do appreciate it.
S: We understand that. We sure do appreciate it.
R: Some of the mistakes are mine rather than the channel.
R: Some of the mistakes are mine rather than the channel.
S: And let us not forget that without this group Rayson would not have a chance to learn and grow as well, which I think is part of this process, yes?
S: And let us not forget that without this group [[Rayson]] would not have a [[chance]] to [[learn]] and [[grow]] as well, which I think is part of this [[process]], yes?
R: True.
R: True.
===='''''[[Urantia Book]]'''''====
S: Rayson, I really thank you too for the [[fact]] that you continue to use the [[Urantia book]] teachings with which we are familiar as a groundwork for your lessons. Without that [[framework]], which a lot of people don't have handy, you bring it in a very personal way, very understandable, [[coordinating]] the [[thoughts]] and [[concepts]] of [[the book]] usually in different ways that make it more and more applicable to our daily lives and to [[the mission]]. And for that I really, really appreciate what you're doing every day.
R: Thank you. This [[group]] will in the not too distant [[future]] receive a [[channel]] who has almost no [[knowledge]] of the [[Urantia book]] and so this issue of adhering perfectly to the book with [[respect]] to details will be even more confounded than it presently is with this channel. If that is not [[acceptable]] to some of you, you may wish to excuse yourselves when said channel starts to [[transmit]] because it may be very annoying to receive teachings that do not directly [[link]] to the [[Urantia book]] as you have become accustomed to. This is something for you to [[ponder]] on and discuss among yourselves. The [[advantage]] of such a [[channel]] is that there will be a completely different vantage point with respect to a number of issues that will be presented. The disadvantages I have already stated. But remember, my [[friends]], that your [[mission]] is ultimately not to remain an exclusive group, but rather to take these teachings out to the great mass of people and spread them in the only way that they can be spread that will really [[persist]] through your [[behavior]], through your [[actions]]. I must now leave. I bid you [[farewell]]. (08/28/93)
===='''''[[Progress]]'''''====
R: Thank you. This group will in the not too distant future receive a channel who has almost no knowledge of the Urantia book and so this issue of adhering perfectly to the book with respect to details will be even more confounded than it presently is with this channel. If that is not acceptable to some of you, you may wish to excuse yourselves when said channel starts to transmit because it may be very annoying to receive teachings that do not directly link to the Urantia book as you have become accustomed to. This is something for you to ponder on and discuss among yourselves. The advantage of such a channel is that there will be a completely different vantage point with respect to a number of issues that will be presented. The disadvantages I have already stated. But remember, my friends, that your mission is ultimately not to remain an exclusive group, but rather to take these teachings out to the great mass of people and spread them in the only way that they can be spread that will really persist through your behavior, through your actions. I must now leave. I bid you farewell. (08/28/93)
R: The director's of this [[Teaching Mission]] are most pleased. The benefits of the lessons go far beyond the [[individual]] participants - far, far beyond. You are all growing very much [[spiritually]] and are working hard. You are to be commended for your [[efforts]] as well as for your [[courage]] in going out among your fellows and serving. Thank you. Farewell. (02/14/93)
===Teaching Mission (Progress)===
Q: Is it correct to say that, since the [[adjudication]] of [[the rebellion]] has been completed, there are no [[mischievous]] [[beings]] who would deliberately mislead our [[transmitter/receivers]]?
Q: Is it correct to say that, since the adjudication of the rebellion has been completed, there are no mischievous beings who would deliberately mislead our transmitter/receivers?
A: That is correct. Yes. (04/25/93)
A: That is correct. Yes. (04/25/93)
R: If I spent years on the fundamentals, you could be seriously retarded in your own growth.
R: If I spent years on the fundamentals, you could be seriously [[retarded]] in your own [[growth]].
S: That makes sense.
S: That makes sense.
R: Even in the lessons, as you have probably noticed, there has been a definite increase in complexity over the months.
R: Even in the lessons, as you have probably noticed, there has been a definite increase in [[complexity]] over the months.
S: Yes. I've noticed that.
S: Yes. I've noticed that.
R: Like the proverbial carrot before the nose of the donkey, we try to keep you moving forward at a steady pace.
R: Like the [[proverbial]] carrot before the nose of the donkey, we try to keep you moving forward at a steady [[pace]].
S: Do you feel that you are succeeding?
S: Do you feel that you are succeeding?
R: What do you think?
R: What do you [[think]]?
S: I hope so. It feels like it.
S: I hope so. It feels like it.
R: Yes, we have all of the indicators to show that the mission is doing well. (12/18/93)
R: Yes, we have all of the indicators to show that [[the mission]] is doing well. (12/18/93)
===='''''[[Teacher Contact]]'''''====
===Teaching Mission (Teachers)===
S: (A reader/believer) telephoned me some weeks ago asking how to get a [[teacher]]. He has a group [[meeting]] at . .. and they want a teacher. I told him they should get their group together and [[read]] the sermon on "counting the cost," and if, after reading it, they still wanted a teacher to let me know, and I would pass their request through [[Rayson]] to Prince [[Melchizedek]]. They have done so, and I want to do that now. I would like to pass on their request for a teacher.
S: (A reader/believer) telephoned me some weeks ago asking how to get a teacher. He has a group meeting at . .. and they want a teacher. I told him they should get their group together and read the sermon on "counting the cost," and if, after reading it, they still wanted a teacher to let me know, and I would pass their request through Rayson to Prince Melchizedek. They have done so, and I want to do that now. I would like to pass on their request for a teacher.
R: I will do so.
R: I will do so.
Q: He said that (a member of his group) had a feeling that some entity was trying to contact her. She thought she might be losing her mind. Is this individual a recipient of a teacher who is trying to get through, or is this her own imagination?
Q: He said that (a member of his group) had a [[feeling]] that some [[entity]] was trying to [[contact]] her. She thought she might be losing her [[mind]]. Is this [[individual]] a recipient of a teacher who is trying to get through, or is this her own [[imagination]]?
A: One moment. It is both (chuckling). She will unbalance for a while, but the contact is real. You must understand that many individuals are contacted and then found not sufficient. So there will often be experiences which are indeed real, but do not bear fruit for many reasons. But she should try to stay centered and balanced, and not try to fixate on her sanity, and let it happen - which is, I understand - almost impossible for the human mind to achieve. But a clear pond reflects images back truthfully. A pond with a rock thrown into it ripples and distorts. She should keep the image of a clear pond when contact is attempted and try not to throw a rock in the water.
A: One moment. It is both ([[chuckling]]). She will unbalance for a while, but the [[contact]] is real. You must understand that many [[individuals]] are contacted and then found not sufficient. So there will often be [[experiences]] which are indeed real, but do not bear fruit for many reasons. But she should try to stay centered and [[balanced]], and not try to fixate on her [[sanity]], and let it happen - which is, I [[understand]] - almost impossible for the [[human mind]] to achieve. But a clear pond [[reflects]] images back [[truthfully]]. A pond with a rock thrown into it ripples and [[distorts]]. She should keep the [[image]] of a clear pond when contact is attempted and try not to throw a rock in the water.
Q: He said the word "Ramon" was felt over and over again by one of the people in his group. Could this possibly be Rayson?
Q: He said the word "Ramon" was felt over and over again by one of the people in his group. Could this possibly be [[Rayson]]?
A: I have not contacted that group.
A: I have not contacted that [[group]].
Q: He ask
Q: He ask
A: That is correct. (Is it?) Yes. (01/21/93)
A: That is correct. (Is it?) Yes. (01/21/93)
Q: (S) of (Mission Group), who we were talking about the other day when you communicated a request for a teacher for his study group, called to thank you for passing his request on to Melchizedek. He said that shortly thereafter at least two people in his group began to feel that they were being contacted. He said that (S) thought she was being contacted, (S2) thought that she was being contacted, by teachers. (S) thinks that the teacher might be named "Racine." Do you have any comments?
Q: (S) of (Mission Group), who we were [[talking]] about the other day when you [[communicated]] a request for a [[teacher]] for his [[study]] group, called to thank you for passing his request on to [[Melchizedek]]. He said that shortly thereafter at least two people in his group began to [[feel]] that they were being [[contacted]]. He said that (S) thought she was being contacted, (S2) thought that she was being contacted, by teachers. (S) thinks that the teacher might be named "Racine." Do you have any comments?
A: One moment. Yes, they are in contact and need to work with the teachers. It would be useful for them to gather information from other groups - including tapes and transcripts - toward this end. We realize now that this teaching mission will meet certain road blocks we had not quite expected, such as the occasional rejection of a teacher by mortal beings - either by the transmitter himself or herself, or by others. We had hoped that this would not be, however, we shall wait and see how this new situation develops.
A: One moment. Yes, they are in [[contact]] and need to work with the teachers. It would be useful for them to gather [[information]] from other groups - including tapes and [[transcripts]] - toward this end. We [[realize]] now that this [[Teaching Mission]] will meet certain [[road blocks]] we had not quite [[expected]], such as the occasional [[rejection]] of a [[teacher]] by [[mortal]] beings - either by the [[transmitter]] himself or herself, or by others. We had [[hoped]] that this would not be, however, we shall wait and see how this new situation [[develops]].
Q: He asks whether or not Hilson, or Loriyana, or both, are personal teachers?
Q: He asks whether or not Hilson, or Loriyana, or both, are personal teachers?
A: They are both teachers, but both may not remain. That depends on the humans involved...
A: They are both teachers, but both may not remain. That depends on the humans involved...
Q: You have heard our discussions of the transmissions of (S) as a T/R and his present teacher, Aneena. Do you have any comments that you would like to make concerning this matter?
Q: You have heard our [[discussions]] of the transmissions of (S) as a [[T/R]] and his present teacher, Aneena. Do you have any comments that you would like to make concerning this matter?
A: Yes. Michael's sojourn on Urantia was intended, among other things, to serve as a model of behavior. He was the one and only human born of woman who ever so graciously expressed His spiritual virtues despite the strong draw of the animal. We all do well to remind ourselves, myself included, of how Michael would approach a given situation, striving always to express His actions with love, goodness, truth and beauty at the forefront. Throughout your ascension career, of course there will be conflicts among personalities. This is unavoidable. However, there are so many ways of acting given a particular situation or conflict, which way shall you choose? The animal way? Or the spiritual. That is my advice. As far as the question of the new teacher, the teacher came by invitation and is a genuine teacher. (S) has worked hard. More than that I cannot say at this time. (01/31/93)
A: Yes. [[Michael]]'s sojourn on [[Urantia]] was intended, among other things, to serve as a [[model]] of [[behavior]]. He was the one and only human born of woman who ever so graciously [[expressed]] His spiritual [[virtues]] despite the strong draw of the [[animal]]. We all do well to remind ourselves, myself included, of how [[Michael]] would approach a given situation, striving always to [[express]] His [[actions]] with [[love]], [[goodness, truth and beauty]] at the forefront. Throughout your [[ascension career]], of course there will be [[conflicts]] among [[personalities]]. This is unavoidable. However, there are so many ways of acting given a particular situation or conflict, which way shall you [[choose]]? The [[animal]] way? Or the [[spiritual]]. That is my advice. As far as the question of the new teacher, the teacher came by [[invitation]] and is a genuine teacher. (S) has worked hard. More than that I cannot say at this time. (01/31/93)
Q: We thank you for being our teacher. When we were in Woods Cross we were told that Ham was sort of an organizer of the teachers, or a leader of the teaching group. Is that still what he is doing? Or is there a new person doing that position?
Q: We thank you for being our teacher. When we were in [[Woods Cross TeaM|Woods Cross]] we were told that [[Ham]] was sort of an [[Administration|organizer]] of the teachers, or a [[leader]] of the [[Teacher Corps|teaching group]]. Is that still what he is doing? Or is there a new [[person]] doing that position?
A: One moment. Ham is still very much a participant in the mission. Those of us who have direct contact with Urantia mortals through the transmitter/receivers are only a fraction of the total participants and some teachers will appear and then contact will be lost for varying periods of time due to a number of circumstances, including emergency missions elsewhere, calls to universe headquarters and other matters which we are not permitted to discuss. The mission is in certain respects taking form even as it occurs. That is part of the reason that there has been a degree of variability. However, Ham will reappear, possibly in this very group, if there is a receptive transmitter/receiver. The match between teacher and mortal is not always easy. Not only must the mortal be highly desirous of serving but there must also be a capability on the part of the mortal to receive physical energy forms without incurring bodily damage or emotional damage. Therefore it is difficult to predict where a given teacher, for example Ham, may next appear. That is the best answer I can give you at present.
A: One moment. [[Ham]] is still very much a [[participant]] in [[the mission]]. Those of us who have direct [[contact]] with Urantia [[mortals]] through the [[transmitter/receivers]] are only a [[fraction]] of the total participants and some teachers will appear and then contact will be lost for varying periods of time due to a number of [[circumstances]], including [[emergency]] [[missions]] elsewhere, calls to [[Salvington|universe headquarters]] and other matters which we are not [[permitted]] to discuss. [[The mission]] is in certain respects taking form even as it occurs. That is part of the reason that there has been a [[degree]] of variability. However, [[Ham]] will reappear, possibly in this very group, if there is a [[receptive]] [[transmitter/receiver]]. The match between [[teacher]] and [[mortal]] is not always easy. Not only must the mortal be highly [[desirous]] of serving but there must also be a capability on the part of the [[mortal]] to receive [[physical]] [[energy]] forms without incurring bodily damage or [[emotional]] [[damage]]. Therefore it is [[difficult]] to [[predict]] where a given teacher, for example Ham, may next appear. That is the best answer I can give you at present.
Q: It sounded from what you were saying as though this mission were on other planets as well. Would it be likely that it's on all of the planets not in Light and Life?
Q: It sounded from what you were saying as though [[this mission]] were on other [[planets]] as well. Would it be likely that it's on all of the planets not in [[Light and Life]]?
A: Moment. I am not permitted to reveal the facts but basically you are correct. Are there other comments?
A: Moment. I am not [[permitted]] to [[reveal]] the [[facts]] but basically you are correct. Are there other comments?
Q: How do the teachers get to this planet? Do they come by Seraphic transport?
Q: How do the [[teachers]] get to [[this planet]]? Do they come by [[Seraphic transport]]?
A: Sometimes. Other times the transmission is done from beyond Urantia.
A: Sometimes. Other times the transmission is done from beyond [[Urantia]].
Q: In other words, you can be somewhere else and actually communicate through a T/R on Urantia, is that correct?
Q: In other [[words]], you can be somewhere else and actually [[communicate]] through a [[T/R]] on [[Urantia]], is that correct?
A: Yes. Generally we try to be in close proximity and there are generally observers present as well.
A: Yes. Generally we try to be in close [[proximity]] and there are generally [[observers]] present as well.
Q: I understand you were on Urantia and standing very close to Mary for a long time. Are you still close to Mary?
Q: I understand you were on [[Urantia]] and standing very close to Mary for a long time. Are you still close to Mary?
A: Yes, at her behest. But then I am close to all of you. Can you not feel it? (Yes.)
A: Yes, at her behest. But then I am close to all of you. Can you not [[feel]] it? (Yes.)
Q: Was that you who visited me last week, or somebody else?
Q: Was that you who visited me last week, or somebody else?
A: I was with you . . ...
A: I was with you . . ...
Q: I hear, Rayson, that you have been visiting other groups in the area. They are all sending back very good reports of the work that you are doing there. I want to say thank you. I feel that you must be a leader of teachers if you are able to do that. Of course it might be that we're not keeping you too busy here, but I just wanted you to know that you are loved and appreciated by other groups than this one.
Q: I hear, Rayson, that you have been [[visiting]] other groups in the area. They are all sending back very [[good]] reports of the work that you are doing there. I want to say thank you. I feel that you must be a [[leader]] of [[teachers]] if you are able to do that. Of course it might be that we're not keeping you too [[busy]] here, but I just wanted you to know that you are loved and appreciated by other groups than this one.
A: Thank you, (S). It is an honor, as always, to be here. I would not characterize myself as a leader of teachers, but rather as a willing and grateful participant in an exciting and challenging mission for our Father.
A: Thank you, (S). It is an [[honor]], as always, to be here. I would not characterize myself as a [[leader]] of [[teachers]], but rather as a willing and grateful [[participant]] in an exciting and challenging [[mission]] for [[our Father]].
S: You seem to have talents that are useful and need to be applied in other areas. (Thank you.) (02/21/93)
S: You seem to have [[talents]] that are useful and need to be applied in other areas. (Thank you.) (02/21/93)
Q: We spoke last week of my ability and willingness to be a T/R and I would like to reiterate that. And if the process could be stepped up it might be useful so that the position of T/R could be shared so (T/R) could sit on the side as well. I just wanted to let you know that I am willing. I know you talked about fear, but fear is only until one does it. If you let the other side know I am ready, and if you think useful. Should I meet with you alone? If (T/R) is willing? Will I get what I need here?
Q: We spoke last week of my [[ability]] and willingness to be a [[T/R]] and I would like to [[reiterate]] that. And if the [[process]] could be stepped up it might be useful so that the position of T/R could be [[shared]] so (T/R) could sit on the side as well. I just wanted to let you know that I am willing. I know you talked about [[fear]], but fear is only until one does it. If you let the other side know I am ready, and if you think useful. Should I meet with you alone? If (T/R) is willing? Will I get what I need here?
A: Yes, my daughter. There are a number of ways that you can approach this. Most have found it useful to embark upon a series of practice sessions with a trusted friend, during which time in the safety of one's home or elsewhere you can achieve the stillness and practice contact with the teacher. That may well be the best course to follow for it has yielded much success in other situations.
A: Yes, my daughter. There are a number of ways that you can approach this. Most have found it useful to embark upon a series of [[practice]] sessions with a [[trusted]] [[friend]], during which time in the [[safety]] of one's [[home]] or elsewhere you can achieve the [[stillness]] and [[practice]] [[contact]] with the teacher. That may well be the best course to follow for it has yielded much [[success]] in other situations.
Q: Rayson, would you be willing to practice with (T/R trainee) sometimes?
Q: Rayson, would you be willing to [[practice]] with (T/R trainee) sometimes?
A: Yes, of course, at her request. Certainly. T/R trainee: I request it now. I feel you I think. I'm going through kind of a lonely time, but I feel you, and thank you for being there.
A: Yes, of course, at her request. Certainly. T/R trainee: I request it now. I feel you I think. I'm going through kind of a lonely time, but I feel you, and thank you for being there.
R: You are welcome. Each of the teachers is given special dispensation to spend extra time with the students of the teaching group, so your perception is most likely correct. T/R trainee: Today, I was walking my dog and all of a sudden out of the creek bed rose this wonderful, wonderful heron. And in that moment I felt specially blessed by the Father's gift. At those kinds of moments I feel very - just aware of everything He has created and consider that a special blessing.
R: You are welcome. Each of [[the teachers]] is given special dispensation to spend extra time with the [[students]] of the [[TeaM|teaching group]], so your [[perception]] is most likely correct.
R: Yes, that is the right way. You are doing very well. (05/22/93) *********************
T/R trainee: Today, I was walking my dog and all of a sudden out of the creek bed rose this [[wonderful]], wonderful [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heron heron]. And in that moment I felt specially [[blessed]] by [[the Father]]'s [[gift]]. At those kinds of [[moments]] I feel very - just [[aware]] of [[everything]] He has created and consider that a special [[blessing]].
R: Yes, that is the right way. You are doing very well. (05/22/93)
Q: (T/R trainee) [Long [[commentary]] on her [[progress]] as a potential [[T/R]]. It ends by:] Is there anything else that I can do to [[facilitate]]? I've spoken with (another T/R) and gotten some background - but I know they are there and I am here. How do we come together?
A: Often our very [[desire]] to serve is the [[obstacle]] to the completion. Use [[relaxation]] [[techniques]] to [[quiet]] your [[desire]], which is [[sincere]] but is getting in the way of [[receptivity]], for it keeps you in the realm of the human [[ego]] and want, and it therefore becomes harder to make a [[connection]]. Relaxation techniques do not have to, necessarily, be [[metaphysical]]. It could be something as [[simple]] as a warm [[bath]] or a television show which [[relaxes]] you. Try to make your [[mind]] as a, clear pond so you will see the [[reflection]] more clearly. It will take time. And perhaps it will not always be totally [[connected]], and it is just a matter of [[practicing]] . . ...
S: When there is a new person who is desirous of receiving a [[teacher]], I'm wondering if that is something that [[Melchizedek]] or [[Ham]] do? They choose the teacher? Or can a person say "well I want (??) this teacher . . (End of side A of tape. Side B continues . . .
A: Brother [[Ham]] is the person, being, who [[assigns]] [[teachers]] to [[humans]]. However, much scouting has occurred with [[permission]] from [[Ham]] and [[Melchizedek]] for teachers to make connections or try out [[humans]] to expedite the [[Teaching Mission]]. They are more compatible, mindally, between [[individuals]], teachers and humans, so the teaching staff has been allowed to have a [[trial]] with certain humans. But the [[assignment]] officially comes from brother Ham, although requests, of course, by [[humans]] are acknowledged and given [[priority]]. (05/29/93)
R: The substance of these lessons has been [[designed]] such that the important elements shall be [[repeated]] many times so that those who may be [[absent]] from a given session will not miss the teaching. But thank you for your [[consideration]]. And as far as [[the teachers]], if anything there will be more teachers as [[the mission]] continues its [[progress]] and [[growth]]. As the first group of [[students]] goes forth as [[individuals]] and others are [[touched]] there will be greater numbers of persons requesting teachers. We are ready for the call. (06/19/93) My question pertains to a letter we got this week from a [[group]], and I think it's in Delaware, that they ask us to write and give them [[encouragement]] because they have [[private]] teachers but apparently they do not have yet a [[T/R]]. I was [[wondering]] whether there was, other than [[encouraging]] them and giving them some of the [[experiences]] of our group, whether there was any [[message]] for them.
A: The message is to be willing to allow one of their members to serve as the human conduit without resentment or [[jealousy]], for it is most [[difficult]] for a transmitter receiver to emerge when there is the [[natural]] [[mortal]] vying for [[position]] of leader. It is important to understand that your transmitter receiver is in no way the [[leader]] of your group but is merely one who has offered to [[participate]] as a [[conduit]], not the [[surgeon]] or even the assistant, but merely the one who hands the instrument. This may be helpful to the [[group]] of which you speak. (Thank you) And remember, my [[friends]], that while [[Melchizedek]] oversees this [[Teaching Mission]], and indeed the whole [[Correcting Time]], he is a [[busy]], busy [[administrator]], and like all administrators [[delegates]] very, very much to those beneath him, so to speak, including yourselves. There is as much work for you to do, each of you as an [[individual]], as you are willing to do. (01/22/94)
===='''''[[Celestial Contact]]'''''====
Q: Teacher Bertrand, I have intermittently served as a [[transmitter/receiver]] for Rayson for some period now. Since near the time I began to serve in that [[function]] I've had a sense that I would get a separate [[teacher]] with a name something like Quin-ton. Now I sense that the time is very close, indeed, and that I may serve as T/R for both Rayson and Quin-ton. Do you have any comment?
A: [by Bertrand] You are correct in your [[understanding]] of your personal teacher. Personal teachers are generally specifically [[assigned]] to an [[individual]] and are not subject to [[group]] [[transmitted]] missions. Those are usually a part of the assigned teachers to teaching classes, such as Rayson and myself. Your [[personal]] [[teacher]] is assigned as a helper for you when your [[assignment]] has been given. They are your [[assistant]], and generally will not require verbalization to others. It may occur from time to time that a personal teacher may indeed have something to say, but in most cases will be [[private]]. (05/12/93)
Q: Rayson, yesterday I received a list of over 200 [[ascendent mortals]] and [[Paper 30 - Personalities of the Grand Universe|other personalities]] that had made contact with [[human being]]s on this [[Teaching Mission]]. Could you comment on the [[accuracy]] of that, and whether or not that is only a small portion of the [[number]] of [[personalities]] involved.
A: That is only a very small portion! There have been many more [[contacts]]. However, many of these the human does not [[recognize]] as such, or discounts as [[imagination]].
A: That is only a very small portion! There have been many more contacts. However, many of these the human does not recognize as such, or discounts as imagination.
Q: What do you mean to say, that a person can be contacted without knowing it as such?
Q: What do you mean to say, that a person can be contacted without knowing it as such?
A: Yes. A person's mind cannot be used for transmission without free will consent by the humans, but there are many contacts between celestial beings and humans that occur daily. In many cases the humans disbelieve it.
A: Yes. A person's [[mind]] cannot be used for transmission without [[free will]] [[consent]] by the humans, but there are many [[contacts]] between [[celestial]] beings and humans that occur daily. In many cases the humans disbelieve it.
Q: [Question too soft to be understood on tape.]
Q: [Question too soft to be understood on tape.]
A: We do not teach the transmitter/receivers individually per se, although they do have access to more range of meaning than they are capable of expressing in words.
A: We do not teach the [[transmitter/receivers]] individually per se, although they do have [[access]] to more range of [[meaning]] than they are capable of [[expressing]] in [[words]].
Q: Rayson, I've recently been [[thinking]] that, like you said, there have been many [[contacts]] between celestial beings and humans for a long time, happening daily - maybe even hourly. Since the [[advent]] of the [[Melchizedek]] [[Teaching Mission]], people have used it as a [[context]] in which to base their [[thoughts]] of what the [[origin]] of these contacts may be. Maybe this shouldn't necessarily be the case. Maybe we should just open our [[minds]] to the possibility that its not a Melchizedek teaching mission teacher, but maybe an [[angel]] or [[Melchizedek]], himself, or some other being, on a separate mission. It is not necessarily good to lock ourselves into that one mode.
Q: Rayson, I have a personal question. Some of the evenings when I'm alone and trying to make contact or trying to reach the stillness the feeling in the top of my head is like steel brushes going around. Last night it came in from the top and was far more intense than I have ever felt before but no voices, and I can't make any sense out of it. Are the celestial beings trying to adjust my mind to receive messages or are they trying to adjust me for healing purposes or just what's going on?
A: Yes, of course, (S), for you are the recipient of all [[spiritual gifts]] on [[Urantia]], and I have informed our group that there is at least one additional [[mission]] which is happening on [[Urantia]] concurrent with this one. And also that you have your helpers - [[Angels]], [[Midwayers]], [[Spirit of Truth]], and [[Adjuster]], and many other [[celestial]] guides - which constantly try to make an [[impression]] upon the [[human mind]]. So to narrow your [[interpretation]] to just this [[Teaching Mission]] would be to make [[invisible]] many other valid spiritual [[contexts]] which occur all the time.
*05/29/93
Q: Rayson, I have a [[personal]] question. Some of the evenings when I'm [[alone]] and trying to make [[contact]] or trying to reach the [[stillness]] the [[feeling]] in the top of my head is like steel brushes going around. Last night it came in from the top and was far more [[intense]] than I have ever felt before but no [[voices]], and I can't make any sense out of it. Are the [[celestial]] beings trying to [[adjust]] my mind to receive [[messages]] or are they trying to [[adjust]] me for [[healing]] purposes or just what's going on?
A: The celestial beings have always been there. It is your will that is adjusting. If you would like to transmit, you may certainly do so at any time. Perhaps you would find it easier to transmit in written form by using a writing tool or a keyboard. Some find that transmission occurs most easily by drawing pictographs. This is indeed an effective way of conveying a message, when one has the necessary talent. Also, transmission can be done by transducing the signal into simple or complex behavioral terms. That it, receiving signal and then modifying one's behavior with subsequent human contacts. Does this answer?
A: The celestial beings have always been there. It is your will that is [[adjusting]]. If you would like to [[transmit]], you may certainly do so at any time. Perhaps you would find it easier to transmit in [[written]] form by using a writing tool or a keyboard. Some find that transmission occurs most easily by drawing pictographs. This is indeed an [[effective]] way of conveying a [[message]], when one has the [[necessary]] [[talent]]. Also, transmission can be done by transducing the [[signal]] into [[simple]] or [[complex]] behavioral terms. That it, receiving signal and then [[modifying]] one's [[behavior]] with subsequent human contacts. Does this answer?
S: Yes.) (09/25/93)
S: Yes.) (09/25/93)
R: Before we start our lesson today, I'm going to give you a bit of instruction on transmission for those who wish to participate as transmitters. I know that many of you here have wished to do this, and have earnestly striven toward this end. That is good. It may be that for some of you at least, the final block is a matter of relinquishing complete and total control of your conscious mind to outside influence. This is not an easy matter for Urantia mortals. It engenders fear, and with good reason. Therefore it is of utmost importance, if you truly wish to do this thing that you call upon your faith and your trust in Father and His servants. Consider that your function as a transmitter is along the line of service. You will not be harmed in any way, nor will you be exalted, but you will help the cause of this mission on Urantia by your participation. You will not be weakened, certainly. If anything, by allowing higher mind to mingle with your own, you will be the stronger in your dealings with your fellow Urantia mortals. Now we will move on to our formal lesson for today. (See Lesson on GOODNESS)
R: Before we start our lesson today, I'm going to give you a bit of instruction on transmission for those who wish to [[participate]] as transmitters. I know that many of you here have wished to do this, and have earnestly striven toward this end. That is good. It may be that for some of you at least, the final block is a matter of relinquishing complete and total control of your conscious mind to outside influence. This is not an easy matter for Urantia mortals. It engenders fear, and with good reason. Therefore it is of utmost importance, if you truly wish to do this thing that you call upon your faith and your trust in Father and His servants. Consider that your function as a transmitter is along the line of service. You will not be harmed in any way, nor will you be exalted, but you will help the cause of this mission on Urantia by your participation. You will not be weakened, certainly. If anything, by allowing higher mind to mingle with your own, you will be the stronger in your dealings with your fellow Urantia mortals. Now we will move on to our formal lesson for today. (See [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1993-01-01-Rayson_%26_Friends,_Vol._2,_Part_2#GOODNESS Lesson on GOODNESS])
S: Thank you so much for the sense I've had quite a bit recently, of your presence and the comfort that gives me even though I'm not talking to you.
S: Thank you so much for the sense I've had quite a bit recently, of your [[presence]] and the [[comfort]] that gives me even though I'm not talking to you.
R: You are most welcome, my dear. Have you sensed the upstepping of the energy that we discussed a few weeks ago?
R: You are most welcome, my dear. Have you sensed the upstepping of the [[energy]] that we [[discussed]] a few weeks ago?
S: Well, I haven't been as faithful in my working on this as I had hoped to be. I've been doing some earthly things, but I do feel more in tune and more comforted.
S: Well, I haven't been as [[faithful]] in my working on this as I had hoped to be. I've been doing some earthly things, but I do feel more in [[tune]] and more comforted.
R: Good, very good.
R: Good, very good.
Q: Rayson, you were expressing some regrets at your inability to communicate when the tape ended, and although I certainly don't agree with you, I think you ought to pick up there.
Q: Rayson, you were [[expressing]] some [[regrets]] at your inability to [[communicate]] when the tape ended, and although I certainly don't [[agree]] with you, I think you ought to pick up there.
A: Well, as you know, I am an ascendant being as you are, and my understanding of spiritual matters and mota is far from complete so I am learning as we go, as you are. I welcome your comments and questions. They always help me to progress along these lines.
A: Well, as you know, I am an [[ascendant being]] as you are, and my [[understanding]] of spiritual matters and [[mota]] is far from complete so I am [[learning]] as we go, as you are. I welcome your comments and questions. They always help me to [[progress]] along these lines.
===='''''[[Transmitting]]'''''====
Q: Concerning the preliminary matter that you [[discussed]], the matter of those who [[desire]] to become [[TR|transmitter/receivers]], is there any correlation between the [[physical]] [[ability]] of the [[brain]] and the ability of the [[teacher]] to reach the [[mind]]?
A: Well, in a sense, yes, but where there is a decreased physical ability on the part of the brain that can be overridden by [[faith]] and earnest [[desire]] to [[participate]], if those two are present in sufficient amount. (Thank you.)
Q: Are there any, are there certain [[individuals]] in the room that would be able to do this?
A: You are all capable. The easiest route for each may vary, however. Some may find it easier to [[transmit]] directly from [[body]] to body and may channel [[spirit]] [[energy]] through direct personal [[healing]]. Others will find that verbalization is easiest. Others will find that artistic [[expression]] in [[song]] or in graphic display is best. Still others will find that the [[written]] [[word]] is most easily available for this means. Think of all the [[modes]] of [[expression]] that are available to [[mankind]]. Any one of them can be used as a [[medium]] of expression of spirit-[[channelled]] message. It does boggle the [[mind]], does it not?
S: [[Wonderful]] answer, Rayson. Thank you. It really was expanding. I speak for myself, but I had more or less thought of [[transmitting]] as being more in a verbal one-on-one with you and another person. And thank you for that answer.
S2: Rayson, I request that you [[communicate]] - I know we can do it directly - but communicate to the [[Planetary Prince]] our [[appreciation]] and thanks for His allowing you to come here and talk with us on various occasions. We are extremely [[blessed]] by this particular [[phenomenon]], and we would like for Him to know that we all [[appreciate]] it and we [[love]] you.
R: You are much loved in return, and the [[message]] is sent. You see, my [[friends]], [[goodness]] is part of [[worship]]. Are there other comments? If not, then I shall bid you [[farewell]]. (10/09/93)
===='''''[[Healing]]'''''====
S: Pursuant to your [[advice]] to see a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurology neurologist] I saw one yesterday. I went over and had an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRI MRI], a brain scan. I took the negatives to Dr. A_ head of the neurosurgery department, and he [[examined]] them closely. I also took them later on to the duty neurologist in the neurology department, and he examined them closely. They could find no [[evidence]] of any aberrations, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumor tumors] or anything like that except the scar from the original tumor that was removed. They were very pleased with what they saw.
R: You are much loved in return, and the message is sent. You see, my friends, goodness is part of worship. Are there other comments? If not, then I shall bid you farewell. (10/09/93)
R: That is [[wonderful]] news. So now you probably are [[curious]] about possible [[spirit]] involvement causing the [[phenomena]] that you have described. (S: Yes.) Yes, that is quite possible. Remember that [[communication]] with higher mind can occur in any conceivable fashion, verbal, visual, auditory, and so on. Have you [[discerned]] any particular patterns?
S: Pursuant to your advice to see a neurologist I saw one yesterday. I went over and had an MRI, a brain scan. I took the negatives to Dr. A_ head of the neurosurgery department, and he examined them closely. I also took them later on to the duty neurologist in the neurology department, and he examined them closely. They could find no evidence of any aberrations, tumors or anything like that except the scar from the original tumor that was removed. They were very pleased with what they saw.
S: Well, it comes and goes, but the thing I talked to you about occurred during my [[meditations]] at night. During the daylight I - and this is what I saw the neurologist about - I was [[conscious]] of [[changes]] in [[intensity]] of [[light]]. It was as if you were sitting in a dark room with the TV facing the other direction, and the light intensity would go up and down, up and down, up and down. I was at various parts of the house when this [[phenomenon]] occurred on several occasions. Earlier this week during my morning shower it happened repeatedly. I was able to consciously [[study]] what it was. It was a change in light intensity from bright lights at daylight to the red shift of light bulbs. When it was appearing and disappearing, it was as if it were a light flashing on and off. That was what I talked to the [[doctors]] about.
R: That is wonderful news. So now you probably are curious about possible spirit involvement causing the phenomena that you have described. (S: Yes.) Yes, that is quite possible. Remember that communication with higher mind can occur in any conceivable fashion, verbal, visual, auditory, and so on. Have you discerned any particular patterns?
R: Do you have the sense of [[message]]?
S: Well, it comes and goes, but the thing I talked to you about occurred during my meditations at night. During the daylight I - and this is what I saw the neurologist about - I was conscious of changes in intensity of light. It was as if you were sitting in a dark room with the TV facing the other direction, and the light intensity would go up and down, up and down, up and down. I was at various parts of the house when this phenomenon occurred on several occasions. Earlier this week during my morning shower it happened repeatedly. I was able to consciously study what it was. It was a change in light intensity from bright lights at daylight to the red shift of light bulbs. When it was appearing and disappearing, it was as if it were a light flashing on and off. That was what I talked to the doctors about.
S: No, that's what I'm [[worried]] about. I don't get it.
R: Do you have the sense of message?
R: Nothing comes into your [[mind]]. There are no [[dreams]]. You do not feel [[impelled]] to [[write]] anything down or transpose with your keyboard?
S: No, that's what I'm worried about. I don't get it.
S: Well, I feel impelled to record the [[message]] that said "I'm fine."
R: Did your [[physician]] offer any electrical [[readings]] of your [[brain]]?
R: Did your physician offer any electrical readings of your brain?
S: No, he did not.
S: No, he did not.
R: You may wish to have this checked to be absolutely sure this is not a seizure phenomenon.
R: You may wish to have this checked to be absolutely sure this is not a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seizure seizure] phenomenon.
S: OK. Thank you.
S: OK. Thank you.
===='''''[[Guidance]]'''''====
R: Such a [[phenomenon]] can indeed occur in the absence of discernible [[brain]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathology pathology]. It may be that your capacity to [[perceive]] spirit [[presence]] is being [[developed]] for reasons that are not [[clear]] to you or to me. Do you sense this?
S: I thought it might be the case, yes. Although I don't know to what [[purpose]] I would, see [[spirit]] [[personalities]]. I don't need to see them in order to know that they're real.
S: I thought it might be the case, yes. Although I don't know to what purpose I would, see spirit personalities. I don't need to see them in order to know that they're real.
R: You have done any [[formal]] transmission? (S: No, no.) Have you attempted to [[write]]?
S: In the sense that I sit down with my [[computer]] and try to get [[inspiration]] about something, I've tried and it usually ends up in a letter to someone.
R: Are the letters [[spirit]] [[lead]]?
R: Are the letters spirit lead?
S: Well, I think they are, yes.
S: Well, I think they are, yes.
R: Are they to particular individuals? (S: Yes.) Would you like to attempt this sort of transmission now? Perhaps the time has come. I will work with you, if you wish.
R: Are they to particular [[individuals]]? (S: Yes.) Would you like to attempt this sort of transmission now? Perhaps the time has come. I will work with you, if you wish.
S: I'm not sure it would worth your time. I do feel that - just as I have felt for the last two or three years - there's celestial guidance in my letters because I'm so un-(Student) in them. I used to feel proud of being able to write letters that would make people angry. And now I write letters that are peaceful, kind. I really appreciate the offer, but I don't think your presence is necessary for me to continue along these veins. I'm sorry.
S: I'm not sure it would worth your time. I do feel that - just as I have felt for the last two or three years - there's [[celestial]] [[guidance]] in my letters because I'm so un-(Student) in them. I used to feel [[proud]] of being able to write letters that would make people [[angry]]. And now I write letters that are [[peaceful]], kind. I really [[appreciate]] the offer, but I don't think your [[presence]] is [[necessary]] for me to continue along these veins. I'm sorry.
R: As you wish. It could be very interesting for you someday to try this.
R: As you wish. It could be very interesting for you someday to try this.
S: Yes, someday it could be very interesting, yes. I think I'm planning this afternoon to write a letter to an individual who sent me a very long letter pertaining to Gabriel of Sedona and his belief in the validity that he is the only representative of Melchizedek and Jesus on this planet. I have been thinking about the form in which this should be put, and I want it to be put in loving form, but I think I know what I want to say and it probably is because of spirit guidance.
S: Yes, someday it could be very interesting, yes. I think I'm planning this afternoon to write a letter to an [[individual]] who sent me a very long letter pertaining to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_of_Sedona Gabriel of Sedona] and his [[belief]] in the validity that he is the only [[representative]] of [[Melchizedek]] and [[Jesus]] on [[this planet]]. I have been [[thinking]] about the form in which this should be put, and I want it to be put in loving form, but I think I know what I want to say and it probably is because of spirit [[guidance]].
R: There is probably a mortal who once was a man of high political rank as yourself who has taken you on as a student and is helping you in this form.
R: There is probably a [[mortal]] who once was a man of high [[political]] rank as yourself who has taken you on as a [[student]] and is helping you in this form.
S: Well, I certainly do appreciate it, and I need all the help I can get.
S: Well, I certainly do appreciate it, and I need all the help I can get.
R: I advise you since you ask regarding your light visions to attempt two things. One is if you have any drawing materials with color to attempt to draw them on paper or with paint. This will be difficult at first, but if you practice you should be able to achieve a close rendering of what you perceive. The second thing you may wish to try is when another such sighting occurs to sit with paper or keyboard and start writing whatever comes into your mind. You may put it in the form of a letter or simply write freely and see what happens. You may be very pleasantly surprised because there is a strong likelihood that you are being contacted by your own personal teacher.
R: I [[advise]] you since you ask regarding your [[light]] [[visions]] to attempt two things. One is if you have any [[drawing]] [[materials]] with [[color]] to attempt to draw them on paper or with paint. This will be [[difficult]] at first, but if you [[practice]] you should be able to [[achieve]] a close rendering of what you [[perceive]]. The second thing you may wish to try is when another such sighting occurs to sit with paper or keyboard and start [[writing]] whatever comes into your [[mind]]. You may put it in the form of a letter or simply write freely and see what happens. You may be very pleasantly [[surprised]] because there is a strong likelihood that you are being [[contacted]] by your own personal [[teacher]].
S: Well, he or she certainly got my attention. I certainly want one.
S: Well, he or she certainly got my [[attention]]. I certainly want one.
===='''''[[Transmitting]]'''''====
R: Yes. So, you may try those two things. You are certainly very capable of transmission, although I sense you are [[reluctant]].
S: I don't think I'm reluctant, but I don't know. I've always had a hard time letting someone else have [[control]] over my mind. [[Subconscious]]ly that may be it.
R: Is there not as much [[control]] in [[dancing]] with another as there is in conducting yourself [[alone]]?
R: Is there not as much control in dancing with another as there is in conducting yourself alone?
S: Did you say dancing?
S: Did you say dancing?
S: Yes, that has always been the case.
S: Yes, that has always been the case.
R: You are very capable at dialogue, and the transmission is far more of a dialogue than it is a mind takeover. Certainly your own mind is always free to interject, comment, or even withdraw at all times during the transmission.
R: You are very capable at [[dialogue]], and the transmission is far more of a dialogue than it is a [[mind]] takeover. Certainly your own mind is always [[free]] to interject, comment, or even withdraw at all times during the transmission.
S: So it's just your voice box that you're surrendering, so to speak. (
S: So it's just your [[voice]] box that you're surrendering, so to speak. (
R: Yes.) Would that be accurate? (
R: Yes.) Would that be accurate? (
R: Yes.) Almost like a translator. If we had someone in the room from Peru and someone who knew how to translate for that person, that translator would be in the position of temporarily not voicing their own thoughts and opinions but voicing the opinions and thoughts of that Peruvian person.
R: Yes.) Almost like a [[translator]]. If we had someone in the room from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peru Peru] and someone who knew how to translate for that person, that translator would be in the [[position]] of temporarily not voicing their own [[thoughts]] and [[opinions]] but voicing the opinions and thoughts of that Peruvian person.
R: Yes, very much like that.
R: Yes, very much like that.
S: Well, I certainly hope that I get a spiritual teacher.
S: Well, I certainly [[hope]] that I get a spiritual [[teacher]].
R: Do not fear that you will not transmit the message perfectly. We do not seek perfect message transmission. It is the human translation of idea that is so critical to our particular mission, and actually by inserting your own imperfect style you help this mission be conveyed to yet more Urantia mortals. Do you understand that.
R: Do not [[fear]] that you will not transmit the message perfectly. We do not seek [[perfect]] [[message]] transmission. It is the human [[translation]] of [[idea]] that is so critical to our particular [[mission]], and actually by inserting your own imperfect style you help this [[mission]] be conveyed to yet more [[Urantia]] [[mortals]]. Do you understand that.
S: I think I understand that, yes.
S: I think I understand that, yes.
R: There are many, many mortals on this planet who understand the form that your mind gives ideas and accept that form far more readily than they would accept the same message through another being.
R: There are many, many [[mortals]] on [[this planet]] who [[understand]] the form that your [[mind]] gives [[ideas]] and [[accept]] that form far more readily than they would accept the same [[message]] through another [[being]].
S: I understand that.
S: I [[understand]] that.
R: You have lived life. You have experienced history, and your behavior is marked by constraint and judgment. And these things come through in ways that are subtle but definite in your own expression. This will be appreciated by those who read your particular transmissions, and there are very few who have your particular background who are actually transmitting now.
R: You have lived life. You have experienced [[history]], and your [[behavior]] is marked by constraint and [[judgment]]. And these things come through in ways that are [[subtle]] but definite in your own [[expression]]. This will be appreciated by those who read your particular transmissions, and there are very few who have your particular background who are actually [[transmitting]] now.
S: Thank you.
S: Thank you.
R: You are welcome.
R: You are welcome.
S: I did want to tell you that your, the book of your teachings entitled Rayson and Friends prior to 1993, in other words for '91 and '92, the original last night was off the press, and it's now ready to be duplicated. And I will soon have copies of it for distribution.
S: I did want to tell you that your, [[the book]] of your teachings entitled Rayson and Friends prior to 1993, in other words for '[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1991-07-08-Rayson_%26_Friends,_Vol._1,_Parts_1%262 91] and '[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=1992-10-25-Rayson_%26_Friends,_Vol._1,_Part_3 92], the original last night was off the press, and it's now ready to be duplicated. And I will soon have copies of it for [[distribution]].
R: Thank you. That will do much good.
R: Thank you. That will do much [[good]].
S: I'm excited about it.
S: I'm [[excited]] about it.
S2: I think it will, too.
S2: I think it will, too.
S: Thank you for the lessons. They're just wonderful.
S: Thank you for the lessons. They're just [[wonderful]].
R: Yes, they have gone well. I [[appreciate]] your [[gratitude]], and I remind you, my [[friends]], that while considering becoming a [[transmitter]] may seem a little overwhelming to you, remember that it gives you a unique [[opportunity]] for spiritual [[creativity]] that very few [[Urantia]] [[mortals]] have ever [[experienced]]. Is that not marvelous?
S: Very intriguing.
S: That's why I'm so [[amazed]] at this whole thing.
S: Yes, I've lived an extremely exciting time and age, been given extremely exciting opportunities.
S: Very [[intriguing]].
S: Yes, I've lived an extremely [[exciting]] time and age, been given extremely exciting [[opportunities]].
R: Anyone can be a [[court]] reporter, but who can be the attorney in charge?
S: Thank you for being with us today. I've run out of [[questions]].
R: Well, let me remind you that once you become a [[transmitter]], which you will surely do, your present [[belief]] about [[control]] will alter in the following fashion. You will believe that the one who lacks control is the [[listener]] in the group rather than the transmitter.
S: Thank you for that [[insight]].
R: And I will remind you when that occurs. Never [[fear]].
S: Rayson, for a while during the past week I had a sensation of, I think the presence of celestial beings which gave me great joy. I thought it might be you. Could you confirm whether I sensed properly the presence of celestial beings, and if so whether they were you?
S: Thank you.) I bid you [[farewell]].
*(10/23/93)
S: Rayson, for a while during the past week I had a [[sensation]] of, I think the [[presence]] of [[celestial]] beings which gave me great [[joy]]. I thought it might be you. Could you [[confirm]] whether I sensed properly the [[presence]] of celestial beings, and if so whether they were you?
R: Yes, I have been with you very much these last many weeks, and I am, in fact, prepared to transmit through you when you are ready to channel.
R: Yes, I have been with you very much these last many weeks, and I am, in [[fact]], [[prepared]] to [[transmit]] through you when you are ready to channel.
S: Thank you. I have been looking forward to that.
S: Thank you. I have been looking forward to that.
R: Perhaps you would care to start practicing.
R: Perhaps you would care to start [[practicing]].
S: Thank you.) But are you comfortable having your entire being penetrated by another personality?
S: Thank you.) But are you comfortable having your entire being [[penetrated]] by another [[personality]]?
S: I think I'm getting comfortable. I have been pretty independent all of my life.
S: I think I'm getting [[comfortable]]. I have been pretty independent all of my life.
R: Have you not been subjected to x-rays?
R: Have you not been subjected to [[x-rays]]?
S: Oh, yes.) Perhaps if you think of it in that vein, yet without any damage accruing to yourselves, it would be helpful - rather than resorting to sexual connotations. Yes or lying in the sun and receiving its radiance.
S: Oh, yes.) Perhaps if you [[think]] of it in that vein, yet without any [[damage]] accruing to yourselves, it would be helpful - rather than resorting to [[sexual]] connotations. Yes or lying in the [[sun]] and receiving its [[radiance]].
S: I think that's the way I felt.
S: I think that's the way I felt.
R: Yes, we have been practicing with the permission of your Thought Adjuster, for you have indicated your readiness.
R: Yes, we have been practicing with the [[permission]] of your [[Thought Adjuster]], for you have indicated your readiness.
S: Thank you. I will practice with (S2) then.
S: Thank you. I will [[practice]] with (S2) then.
R: Yes. We have also been working with (S2), and she has also expressed her willingness.
R: Yes. We have also been working with (S2), and she has also [[expressed]] her willingness.
S: Would it be helpful if we practiced together and if whoever was trying to transmit were asked questions by the other one?
S: Would it be helpful if we [[practiced]] [[together]] and if whoever was trying to [[transmit]] were asked questions by the other one?
R: Yes, certainly.
R: Yes, certainly.
R: Yes, and you are very much loved, my dear friends. Do you understand better now the nature of material life and that which is beyond it?
R: Yes, and you are very much [[loved]], my dear friends. Do you [[understand]] better now the [[nature]] of [[material life]] and that which is beyond it?
S: Yes, I understand why we're having to undergo imperfections. It's a mixed blessing, the imperfections.
S: Yes, I [[understand]] why we're having to undergo [[imperfections]]. It's a mixed [[blessing]], the imperfections.
R: That which even a Lanonendek Son cannot access has been freely and lovingly given to you for all eternity.
R: That which even a [[Lanonendek Son]] cannot access has been freely and lovingly given to you for all [[eternity]].
S: That makes us special. Even though we're behind. And we know a million years from now we're still not going to know it all.
S: That makes us special. Even though we're behind. And we know a million years from now we're still not going to know it all.
S2: But who cares?
S2: But who [[cares]]?
S: We'll be still in school, so to speak.
S: We'll be still in school, so to [[speak]].
S2: We still have plenty of time.
S2: We still have plenty of time.
R: Would you rather be a seraphim, frozen in your potentials?
R: Would you rather be a [[seraphim]], frozen in your [[potentials]]?
S: Goodness no, this is exciting.
S: [[Goodness]] no, this is [[exciting]].
S: I'd rather be a son of God.
S: I'd rather be a [[Faith sons|son of God]].
R: With no beginning and no end.
R: With no beginning and no end.
S: Yes, because I get my "no beginning" from my Thought Adjuster when I fuse with him, her, or it. (12/04/93)
S: Yes, because I get my "no beginning" from my [[Thought Adjuster]] when I [[fuse]] with him, her, or it. *(12/04/93)
===='''''[[Pedagogy]]'''''===
===Teaching Mission (Lesson Preparation)===
S: Does Prince [[Melchizedek]] still write the lessons, basic lessons?
R: Yes. We have certain [[guidelines]] established and goals to be met. We are given a certain amount of leeway in [[deciding]] how to proceed toward our [[goals]]. That is why you encounter much [[repetition]] and why there is variation from group to [[group]]. But you should be able to discern a thread of commonality that binds all. Is that so?
S: Yes, yes. I've been [[amazed]] at your [[consistency]]. Ordinarily when an [[individual]] or [[group]] of individuals speak about various subjects there are occasional, in [[fact]] I would say many, [[conflicts]]. And the views you give, the views other [[teachers]] give, although there are minor [[conflicts]] from time to time and place to place, there's tremendous [[consistency]] within each teaching.
R: Yes, it is interesting that you asked about [[patience]], because it is an [[exercise]] in patience for the teacher to [[participate]] in [[this mission]]. It is delightful to be [[privileged]] to serve in this [[Manner|fashion]], and I feel I have benefitted much in my own [[personal]] [[growth]].
R: Yes, it is interesting that you asked about patience, because it is an exercise in patience for the teacher to participate in this mission. It is delightful to be privileged to serve in this fashion, and I feel I have benefitted much in my own personal growth.
S: Thank you for telling us that.
S: Thank you for telling us that.
S: Also, along those lines, Milcah has been tremendously patient with us, and particularly since she shows up and has only two of your students there. I know that the rest of them have what I consider to be legitimate excuses. They obviously consider them to be legitimate excuses. But I have a hard time putting myself in their positions and seeing how I would miss any of these sessions unless I were physically out of town. I enjoy them very much. (
S: Also, along those lines, Milcah has been tremendously [[patient]] with us, and particularly since she shows up and has only two of your [[students]] there. I know that the rest of them have what I consider to be legitimate excuses. They obviously consider them to be legitimate excuses. But I have a hard time putting myself in their [[positions]] and seeing how I would miss any of these sessions unless I were [[physically]] out of town. I enjoy them very much. (
S2: Yes.)
S2: Yes.)
R: You are most welcome. Even one member present merits continuation of the lessons.
R: You are most welcome. Even one member present [[merits]] continuation of the lessons.
S: Thank you, Rayson. That's very gracious
S: Thank you, Rayson. That's very [[gracious]]
S: Yes, and very, very consoling, since I had thought perhaps that the other side might think that two people showing up might not be worth the energy for a lesson.
S: Yes, and very, very [[consoling]], since I had thought perhaps that the other side might think that two people showing up might not be worth the [[energy]] for a lesson.
S: Oh, but people do benefit later as well with the transcripts and the tapes. The lesson doesn't end here.
S: Oh, but people do benefit later as well with the [[transcripts]] and the tapes. The lesson doesn't end here.
R: Yes, you have both been most diligent and patient yourselves in spreading the word from these lessons, and I thank you both on my own behalf and on the behalf of those who also participate in this mission. Your efforts are greatly appreciated and much good has come of this already. Believe me, much good.
R: Yes, you have both been most [[diligent]] and [[patient]] yourselves in [[Dissemination|spreading the word]] from these lessons, and I thank you both on my own behalf and on the behalf of those who also [[participate]] in [[this mission]]. Your [[efforts]] are greatly [[appreciated]] and much [[good]] has come of this already. Believe me, much good.
S: Do I sense the presence of Prince Melchizedek?
S: Do I sense the presence of Prince [[Melchizedek]]?
R: There are high officials who come to our lessons, but because of the, I do not wish to turn these lessons into a sensation seekers haven. I will defer in answering your question at this time.
R: There are high officials who come to our lessons, but because of the..., I do not [[wish]] to turn these lessons into a [[sensation]] seekers haven. I will defer in answering your question at this time.
S: I was not seeking sensations except to confirm my own feelings of celestial presence.
S: I was not seeking [[Spectacle|sensations]] except to [[confirm]] my own [[feelings]] of celestial [[presence]].
R: Certainly Melchizedek.
R: Certainly [[Melchizedek]].
S: And you have answered that enough for my satisfaction.
S: And you have answered that enough for my [[satisfaction]].
R: Melchizedek is aware of all the proceedings of each lesson with each group and does drop in on occasion to observe.
R: [[Melchizedek]] is aware of all the [[proceedings]] of each lesson with each [[group]] and does drop in on occasion to [[observe]].
S: Thank you. (10/23/93)
S: Thank you. (10/23/93)
===='''''[[Perception]]'''''===
S: I have been [[curious]] for some time about how you are able to [[perceive]] of [[individuals]] in your class. I know you don't have eyes and I [[wonder]] how you sense the [[individuals]] that are around the room? If you don't care to tell me, it's all right.
R: Well, of course, I intertwine my [[presence]] with the [[mind]] of the [[transmitter/receiver]], and so I have that cue. But, in addition, during these lessons there are others like myself who [[participate]], and they post themselves among the human [[participants]] and signal to me with respect to their [[positions]]. This is very helpful to me and allows me to [[concentrate]] on the lesson, while still receiving [[feedback]] regarding its [[acceptance]] among each member of the group, or the members of the group.
*(10/23/93)
S: Rayson, now that we're getting up close and [[personal]], we were [[discussing]] you the other day, very fondly, by the way, and we were [[wondering]] can you see us in a [[physical]] form? Can you see only our spiritual [[essence]]? How do you [[perceive]] us?
R: I cannot see you as you see one another, it is true. I do have a certain [[capacity]] to [[perceive]] your spirit [[light]] which is less than I will have in 20,000 years, but more than I had 20,000 years ago. I have a sense of your [[appearance]] based upon the [[time]] I spend with you [[personally]] and [[reflections]] that I [[receive]] from others who are about you when I am present. This probably gives me a far more comprehensive [[idea]] of who you are than I would get if I were another [[mortal]] being.
S: Rayson, we see each other by [[light]] [[reflected]] into our eyeballs being changed into [[electrical]] [[impulses]] going to our [[brain]]. I understand that you probably don't have any eyeballs; therefore you cannot see [[reflected]] [[light]]. You can only see reflections of our [[spiritual]] component, or the absence of it. Is that somewhat correct?
R: Yes. I cannot [[perceive]] that as well as a perfectly created being, however, and so I am somewhat guided by their promptings.
S: Also, I would [[assume]] that you don't have any ears, so you can only [[comprehend]] what we're [[thinking]]. If we misstate a few words in asking questions, I notice that many, many times you've answered the [[question]] we were trying to ask rather than the question we did ask. Is this because you have a greater [[ability]] in this area that we call [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sensations#Audition hearing]?
R: Well, because your verbal [[communication]] has spiritual [[content]] and my [[perceptual]] array is geared to [[spirit]] [[frequencies]], I am able to hear you, so to [[speak]]. It is not hearing as you [[understand]] it to be, or as I [[experienced]] it when I myself was a [[material]] [[being]]. When you pray, you send a complete spirit [[message]] to [[Paradise]] that is heard by all along the way by those who have [[spirit]] [[perception]]. When you speak, what I hear is something that may be called a [[prayer]] fragment. Does that make sense to you?
S: Yes.) I hear the [[spirit]] [[content]] of your utterance. I cannot very well [[discern]] [[intellectual]] or [[emotional]] content unless they have heavy spirit tracings [[impressed]] upon them, which indeed does occur. But that may help you to understand some of the answers that you receive.
S: Also, I would assume that you don't have any ears, so you can only comprehend what we're thinking. If we misstate a few words in asking questions, I notice that many, many times you've answered the question we were trying to ask rather than the question we did ask. Is this because you have a greater ability in this area that we call hearing?
S: Are we using the [[circuits]] when we do this or when we [[speak]] with you are we using [[the universe]] circuits?
R: All lessons on [[Urantia]] are [[transmitted]] on the universe [[circuits]]. That is why there are so many [[spirit]] [[personalities]] in attendance, like your baseball games where some watch on the television, some [[listen]] on the [[radio]] and some go for a front row seat.
R: All lessons on Urantia are transmitted on the universe circuits. That is why there are so many spirit personalities in attendance, like your baseball games where some watch on the television, some listen on the radio and some go for a front row seat.
S: So we're in the front row right now, I guess.
S: So we're in the front row right now, I guess.
R: No, you are in the field.
R: No, you are in the field.
S: OK . .. [laughter].) So just be sure you hit a home run.
S: OK . .. [[[laughter]]].) So just be sure you hit a home run.
S: Is it light where you are, as we perceive it, if you could reflect back to when you were a mortal in your material perceptions of light and dark? Is it light where you are right now?
S: Is it [[light]] where you are, as we [[perceive]] it, if you could [[reflect]] back to when you were a [[mortal]] in your material [[perceptions]] of [[light]] and [[dark]]? Is it light where you are right now?
R: Yes, very much so. There is much presence of Father. That is how we light our spirit existence.
R: Yes, very much so. There is much [[presence]] of [[the Father|Father]]. That is how we light our [[spirit]] [[existence]].
S: I had this idea about it being dark and you'll look out in space and see the points of light, the stars. I think of the points of light, our fragments inside of us, as being points of light inside of us, and what else is around us is dark, and you can perceive those points of light like we look up into the stars and see them in that respect.
S: I had this [[idea]] about it being [[dark]] and you'll look out in [[space]] and see the [[points]] of [[light]], the [[stars]]. I think of the points of light, our [[Thought Adjusters|fragments]] inside of us, as being points of light inside of us, and what else is around us is [[dark]], and you can perceive those points of light like we look up into the [[stars]] and see them in that respect.
R: But the night sky that you refer to as seen by a perfect being is dazzling in light with pinpoints of darkness that reflect your stars.
R: But the [[night sky]] that you refer to as seen by a [[perfect]] [[being]] is dazzling in light with pinpoints of [[darkness]] that [[reflect]] your [[stars]].
S: Wow, that's neat.
S: Wow, that's neat.
Q: Rayson, when you're talking to us, do you receive the assistance of any celestial beings?
Q: Rayson, when you're talking to us, do you [[receive]] the [[assistance]] of any [[celestial]] [[beings]]?
R: Yes, continuously, otherwise this would not be possible.
R: Yes, continuously, otherwise this would not be possible.
S: Are Midwayers helping with this right now?
S: Are [[Midwayers]] helping with this right now?
R: Yes. Do you not sense them?
R: Yes. Do you not sense them?
S: I think so, yes.
S: I think so, yes.
R: They can sometimes be mischievous.
R: They can sometimes be [[mischievous]].
S: They're pretty cool, I think.
S: They're pretty cool, I think.
R: Your leprechauns of ancient lore bear a faint resemblance to midwayers.
R: Your [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leprechauns leprechauns] of ancient [[lore]] bear a faint resemblance to [[midwayers]].
S: Where are you right now, Rayson, in relation to this room?
S: Where are you right now, Rayson, in relation to this room?
R: I am here.
R: I am here.
S: Are you left or right of (T/R)?
S: Are you left or right of ([[T/R]])?
R: I surround her and go through her like a mist or a shroud.
R: I [[surround]] her and go through her like a mist or a shroud.
S: Does that seem to be I am not in my Father, my Father is in me?
S: Does that seem to be I am not in my Father, my Father is in me?
R: Yes, yes. She must permit me to invade her being for this to occur. (12/04/93)
R: Yes, yes. She must [[permit]] me to invade her [[being]] for this to occur.
*(12/04/93)
===='''''[[Archives]]'''''====
[The discussion was about Jesus' cleansing of the Temple.]
[The discussion was about Jesus' cleansing of the Temple.]
S: Rayson were you at the time, were you present in that temple when those things took place?
S: Rayson were you at the time, were you present in [[173:1 Cleansing the Temple|that temple when those things took place]]?
R: The Ancients of Days guard the records of the cosmos and may permit one to review historical features when it is deemed appropriate. It is far more than the visual record to which you allude. There are spirit qualities recorded as well.
R: Not on [[Urantia]], but I have reviewed the [[records]] of [[this planet]] thoroughly and have beheld the details of which you speak.
S: How far would one have to advance through the mansion worlds before one would be capable of viewing these and receiving any benefit from them?
S: Rayson, I was [[wondering]], we have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video video tapes] and so on. Do you have the [[ability]] to actually do a revisiting of it as though it were on video tape? Or actually - like in 3-D circumstances - actually re-live that [[moment]] and see it?
R: It all depends on need, actually. If you are needed, it can happen early. If not, it may never occur. Your unique and individual personality is known to those at high levels and if it can be useful to them, they will appeal to you for service. (12/18/93)
R: The [[Ancients of Days]] guard the [[records]] of the [[cosmos]] and may permit one to review [[historical]] features when it is deemed appropriate. It is far more than the [[visual]] [[record]] to which you allude. There are [[spirit]] [[qualities]] recorded as well.
S: How far would one have to advance through the [[mansion worlds]] before one would be capable of viewing these and [[receiving]] any benefit from them?
Visiting Student: Since our teacher HAM has gone, could you give us any directions for our group? His departure was so sudden we were dumfounded and wonder what our future mission assignments may or may not entail. Could you comment on that, please?
R: It all depends on need, actually. If you are needed, it can happen early. If not, it may never occur. Your [[unique]] and [[individual]] [[personality]] is known to those at high levels and if it can be useful to them, they will [[appeal]] to you for service.
* (12/18/93)
====='''''[[Teaching Mission]]'''''====
Visiting Student: Since our teacher [[Ham]] has gone, could you give us any [[directions]] for our [[group]]? His departure was so sudden we were dumfounded and [[wonder]] what our [[future]] [[mission]] [[assignments]] may or may not entail. Could you comment on that, please?
A: Yes, your mission at present is to maintain your faith and group identity. This is difficult, however, necessary. Look at it from this perspective. It is much more impractical to have as a living inspiration a group of mortals who continue to believe in a teacher who is absent than to have a group of people who sit at the feet of one of our group. In a larger scope of the mission, this is necessary, not for yourselves personally, but on a larger scope. For it shows a true faith and demonstrates the reality of the teachers and the teachings. While personally disappointing, nevertheless it will serve to convert many non-believers to our cause. Consider the Apostles after the death of Jesus. The devastation and loss and feelings of abandonment overtook them. Their faith was weakened. See how much nobler it is to accept without understanding, and continue to radiate joy, love, faith, and light without the blessings of a teacher. This shows the true integration of Ham's lessons and the upstepping of your character. It also shows eloquently, and without defensive words, the reality - spiritual reality - and truth of the mission. For if a group can maintain higher values of identity, continued service, dedication to God and the will of God, and the internal reliance on Adjuster, angelic, higher mind, then we have succeeded in transmitting the individual into more morontial modes and actions. This is quite an honor. Humans are unconsciously subverting spiritual gifts. Reliance on external guidance is acceptable to a point, but when that becomes dependency, you are no more than mere puppets. My suggestion is to use your free will to clearly choose the higher path instead of feeling abandoned.
A: Yes, your [[mission]] at present is to [[maintain]] your [[faith]] and [[group]] [[identity]]. This is [[difficult]], however, [[necessary]]. Look at it from this [[perspective]]. It is much more impractical to have as a living [[inspiration]] a group of [[mortals]] who continue to believe in a [[teacher]] who is absent than to have a group of people who sit at the feet of one of our group. In a larger scope of [[the mission]], this is [[necessary]], not for yourselves personally, but on a larger [[scope]]. For it shows a true faith and demonstrates the reality of the teachers and the teachings. While personally disappointing, nevertheless it will serve to convert many non-believers to our cause. Consider the Apostles after the death of Jesus. The devastation and loss and feelings of abandonment overtook them. Their faith was weakened. See how much nobler it is to accept without understanding, and continue to radiate joy, love, faith, and light without the blessings of a teacher. This shows the true integration of Ham's lessons and the upstepping of your character. It also shows eloquently, and without defensive words, the reality - spiritual reality - and truth of the mission. For if a group can maintain higher values of identity, continued service, dedication to God and the will of God, and the internal reliance on Adjuster, angelic, higher mind, then we have succeeded in transmitting the individual into more morontial modes and actions. This is quite an honor. Humans are unconsciously subverting spiritual gifts. Reliance on external guidance is acceptable to a point, but when that becomes dependency, you are no more than mere puppets. My suggestion is to use your free will to clearly choose the higher path instead of feeling abandoned.
You were graced with many lessons, and now that the seed has been planted, a time of waiting precedes new growth. We know that eventually you will see the benevolence and blessings of this event. Often the offstage character in a play exerts the strongest influence. What are you? Or what have you become without him? That is the true litmus test of the teachings. Are you now less than you were? Or more? These are questions your study group should be praying on and discussing. You are not alone. You have many, many celestial helpers both involved in this mission and not. How has Ham's commingling affected you? Has it left you directionless? Then he has failed. Your mission is to live without Ham for now. He will return within the year. But first you must mature. You must show that these teachings are a part of you, with or without the teachings.
You were graced with many lessons, and now that the seed has been planted, a time of waiting precedes new growth. We know that eventually you will see the benevolence and blessings of this event. Often the offstage character in a play exerts the strongest influence. What are you? Or what have you become without him? That is the true litmus test of the teachings. Are you now less than you were? Or more? These are questions your study group should be praying on and discussing. You are not alone. You have many, many celestial helpers both involved in this mission and not. How has Ham's commingling affected you? Has it left you directionless? Then he has failed. Your mission is to live without Ham for now. He will return within the year. But first you must mature. You must show that these teachings are a part of you, with or without the teachings.
