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Iruka: Yes and also 666 has a bad connotation, the mark of the beast which has nothing, is not real. Does this help?

Iruka: Yes and also 666 has a bad connotation, the mark of the beast which has nothing, is not real. Does this help?

E1: In today's...being that we are approaching the year [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000 2000] and along the lines of Revelation has the [[seven]] (much side bar chatting) seals been broken as they mention in [[Book of Revelation|Revelations]]? And as people think that it has been broken?

E1: In today's...being that we are approaching the year [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000 2000] and along the lines of Revelation has the [[seven]] (much side bar chatting) seals been broken as they mention in [[Book of Revelation|Revelations]]? And as people think that it has been broken?

===='''''[[Catastrophism]]'''''====

===='''''[[Catastrophism]]'''''====

Iruka: This has to do with the great ending battle, is this what you are referring to?

Iruka: This has to do with the great ending battle, is this what you are referring to?

E1: I don't know. There are a few verses that mention about the seven seals being broken and they mention things like [[famine]], [[wars]], and I think disease (more side bar chatting as to Revelation's content) that is happening with the seals being broken, to indicate that we are approaching the end. Is there any [[truth]] or significance to what is going on, and also the [[weather]] I might add, the very [[weird]] weather we are having, has significance as well towards the [[end of the world]]?

E1: I don't know. There are a few verses that mention about the seven seals being broken and they mention things like [[famine]], [[wars]], and I think disease (more side bar chatting as to Revelation's content) that is happening with the seals being broken, to indicate that we are approaching the end. Is there any [[truth]] or significance to what is going on, and also the [[weather]] I might add, the very [[weird]] weather we are having, has significance as well towards the [[end of the world]]?

Iruka: The Father, [[Christ]] [[Michael]], all [[love]] this place, this planet [[Urantia]], they do not want to see it destroyed. There are no [[plans]] for it to be destroyed. The plans, as we have gone over before, is for everyone to know how much they are loved by [[the Father]]. To feel that love, to [[share]] it with those around them and to send [[this planet]] into [[Light and Life]], not destruction. [[Weather]] has its own [[cycles]] and its effected by various [[pollution]] in the [[atmosphere]]. Streams of [[wind]] circle the planet and move hot warm areas and cold areas around and that affects weather. These are two different things. Like the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectonic_plates plates] under the [[earth]] which causes the earth to tremble. It is [[physical]], it is material. The [[plans]] for [[this planet]] are for everyone to start loving each other and to live and become whole complete [[humans]]. Does this help?

Iruka: The Father, [[Christ]] [[Michael]], all [[love]] this place, this planet [[Urantia]], they do not want to see it destroyed. There are no [[plans]] for it to be destroyed. The plans, as we have gone over before, is for everyone to know how much they are loved by [[the Father]]. To feel that love, to [[share]] it with those around them and to send [[this planet]] into [[Light and Life]], not destruction. [[Weather]] has its own [[cycles]] and its effected by various [[pollution]] in the [[atmosphere]]. Streams of [[wind]] circle the planet and move hot warm areas and cold areas around and that affects weather. These are two different things. Like the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectonic_plates plates] under the [[earth]] which causes the earth to tremble. It is [[physical]], it is material. The [[plans]] for [[this planet]] are for everyone to start loving each other and to live and become whole complete [[humans]]. Does this help?

E1: Yes it does but see the odd thing about it is, it seems as though something has broken in terms of all the [[violence]], again the [[weather]], for example [[Aids]], a lot of other things people mention and they [[fear]] that these are the signs and [[symptoms]] of the world coming to [[Apocalypse|an end]]. Also when Christ mentioned in one of the [[gospels]] that He says "when you see these signs know that..." some [[quote]] that they indicate that [[Jesus]] said that will show that there is something that is going to happen in terms of [[Second Coming|Him coming again]] or something to that [[effect]]. I'm just wondering what exactly is going on?

E1: Yes it does but see the odd thing about it is, it seems as though something has broken in terms of all the [[violence]], again the [[weather]], for example [[Aids]], a lot of other things people mention and they [[fear]] that these are the signs and [[symptoms]] of the world coming to [[Apocalypse|an end]]. Also when Christ mentioned in one of the [[gospels]] that He says "when you see these signs know that..." some [[quote]] that they indicate that [[Jesus]] said that will show that there is something that is going to happen in terms of [[Second Coming|Him coming again]] or something to that [[effect]]. I'm just wondering what exactly is going on?

S1: I'm not sure, it is also in the [[Bible]], but I think He was talking to the [[Pharisees]] about being able to see with the [[heart]]. It is from the [[Urantia Book]] I think. (More chatting on the side)

S1: I'm not sure, it is also in the [[Bible]], but I think He was talking to the [[Pharisees]] about being able to see with the [[heart]]. It is from the [[Urantia Book]] I think. (More chatting on the side)

E1: (That is the right material), and people are relating this to [[Book of Revelation|Revelation]], the things that's going on in Revelation, things that are going on now are related to the things that are said in Revelation and that is where they are putting two and two together to come up with this [[apocalyptic]] [[change]]. Now is there going to be a change in the year [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000 2000], but it won't necessarily be the [[end of the world]]?

E1: (That is the right material), and people are relating this to [[Book of Revelation|Revelation]], the things that's going on in Revelation, things that are going on now are related to the things that are said in Revelation and that is where they are putting two and two together to come up with this [[apocalyptic]] [[change]]. Now is there going to be a change in the year [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000 2000], but it won't necessarily be the [[end of the world]]?

Iruka: The year 2000, no that is not a [[magic]] [[number]]. There may be [[changes]] but changes have to do with events not time not dates. It is true that [[this planet]] is in much trouble. That is why Christ [[Michael]] commissioned, [[inaugurated]] this commission for the [[Teacher Corps|teacher group]] which followed the [[revelation]] of the..the giving of the [[Urantia Book]]. These are the changes that are happening, that anyone who wants a [[teacher]] may have one, that anyone who wants to be used for [[healing]] may do that, these are the changes that are being made to turn [[the planet]] around. You are right in [[observing]] that things are getting bad that is why this is happening. But to say that the planet will be destroyed on a certain date and a certain time is not correct. [[God]] loves [[this planet]], He wants it turned around, does this help?

Iruka: The year 2000, no that is not a [[magic]] [[number]]. There may be [[changes]] but changes have to do with events not time not dates. It is true that [[this planet]] is in much trouble. That is why Christ [[Michael]] commissioned, [[inaugurated]] this commission for the [[Teacher Corps|teacher group]] which followed the [[revelation]] of the..the giving of the [[Urantia Book]]. These are the changes that are happening, that anyone who wants a [[teacher]] may have one, that anyone who wants to be used for [[healing]] may do that, these are the changes that are being made to turn [[the planet]] around. You are right in [[observing]] that things are getting bad that is why this is happening. But to say that the planet will be destroyed on a certain date and a certain time is not correct. [[God]] loves [[this planet]], He wants it turned around, does this help?

Iruka: Any [[experience]] that points you toward [[the Father]] is valid. Anything that causes you to pause from your daily life and [[responsibility]] to [[wonder]] and to seek [[the Father]] will cause [[soul growth]]. So yes, whenever you pause and something makes you think of [[the Father]] this is [[positive]], this is the [[goal]]. Does this help? Does this answer?

Iruka: Any [[experience]] that points you toward [[the Father]] is valid. Anything that causes you to pause from your daily life and [[responsibility]] to [[wonder]] and to seek [[the Father]] will cause [[soul growth]]. So yes, whenever you pause and something makes you think of [[the Father]] this is [[positive]], this is the [[goal]]. Does this help? Does this answer?

===='''''[[Silence]]'''''====

===='''''[[Silence]]'''''====

S2: Yes. I have read a lot of the [[transcripts]]. [[Silence]] is mentioned over and over again as a [[method]] of growing closer to [[the Father]], pausing, silence. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_meditation Transcendental Meditation] teaches this silence, I am familiar with its [[techniques]]. Daily [[discipline]] of repeating your [[mantra]], clearing your [[mind]], is this the [[activity]] that goes on during silence? That you are recommending? Is this recommendation that you give out personal to me, or is it a recommendation for a group. Two questions here.

S2: Yes. I have read a lot of the [[transcripts]]. [[Silence]] is mentioned over and over again as a [[method]] of growing closer to [[the Father]], pausing, silence. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_meditation Transcendental Meditation] teaches this silence, I am familiar with its [[techniques]]. Daily [[discipline]] of repeating your [[mantra]], clearing your [[mind]], is this the [[activity]] that goes on during silence? That you are recommending? Is this recommendation that you give out personal to me, or is it a recommendation for a group. Two questions here.

Iruka: It is for everyone to spend time [[alone]] with [[the Father]] in [[silence]]. Think of nothing, allow Him to shower you with [[love]] actually He does this all the time but by becoming still you will feel it more. You will notice it. There is [[truth]] in many [[disciplines]] and if you have learned to seek the [[stillness]] already you have come a long way indeed. Because that is very [[difficult]] to learn. Very difficult to still the [[thoughts]] and just be, to remain [[quiet]]. Does this answer both of your questions?

Iruka: It is for everyone to spend time [[alone]] with [[the Father]] in [[silence]]. Think of nothing, allow Him to shower you with [[love]] actually He does this all the time but by becoming still you will feel it more. You will notice it. There is [[truth]] in many [[disciplines]] and if you have learned to seek the [[stillness]] already you have come a long way indeed. Because that is very [[difficult]] to learn. Very difficult to still the [[thoughts]] and just be, to remain [[quiet]]. Does this answer both of your questions?

Iruka: The [[Thought Adjuster]], although Curtis could possibly help also. [[Listen]], be aware of the voice inside, whoever that is. And when you need help it doesn't matter, it will guide you.

Iruka: The [[Thought Adjuster]], although Curtis could possibly help also. [[Listen]], be aware of the voice inside, whoever that is. And when you need help it doesn't matter, it will guide you.

===='''''[[Fear]]'''''====

===='''''[[Fear]]'''''====

S1: One of the most [[frightening]] things to me about this whole [[movement]] although I am [[gradually]] coming to [[accept]] it, I can see the rationale for it, but since I was involved in [[Christianity]] for some time I've [[read]] some interesting [[novels]] lately that were sort of [[fiction]] but what is going on here was written in some novels, well not totally to the letter, but the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_E._Peretti Paretti novels], written by Frank Paretti. "This Present Darkness" "Piercing the Darkness" some other things talked about [[spiritual]] [[warfare]]. And basically it describes in some kind of detail just how people, well meaning [[new age]] sort of people, become basically [[friends]] with the [[devil]], friends with [[demons]], instead of it being [[angels]] of light end up really angels of [[darkness]] inhabiting their body. It is all nice [[fiction]] and all that, very fascinating, probably sells real, real well. So when you start saying [[listen]] for voices it is almost very reminiscent of this novel. Now maybe there have been other novels like this maybe I am just not well read enough. How did Paretti come up with this, is this something that has been going on for a long time, that is people consorting, have people been consorting with [[demons]] in the past, is that why, is there enough [[literature]] around to support that because basically when you say that it almost reminds me of this book and how people gather together for the [[purpose]] of seeking their [[counselor]] and it becomes a big battle between [[fundamentalist]] [[Christians]] who are praying for the [[support]] for the [[angels]] of the Lord so they overpower the angels of darkness and so that God wins a spiritual victory on this planet. So what am I asking is Paretti, how did he portray this so accurately, or not so accurately, how did he come up with this, it seems such a [[parallel]] it keeps haunting my thoughts.

S1: One of the most [[frightening]] things to me about this whole [[movement]] although I am [[gradually]] coming to [[accept]] it, I can see the rationale for it, but since I was involved in [[Christianity]] for some time I've [[read]] some interesting [[novels]] lately that were sort of [[fiction]] but what is going on here was written in some novels, well not totally to the letter, but the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_E._Peretti Paretti novels], written by Frank Paretti. "This Present Darkness" "Piercing the Darkness" some other things talked about [[spiritual]] [[warfare]]. And basically it describes in some kind of detail just how people, well meaning [[new age]] sort of people, become basically [[friends]] with the [[devil]], friends with [[demons]], instead of it being [[angels]] of light end up really angels of [[darkness]] inhabiting their body. It is all nice [[fiction]] and all that, very fascinating, probably sells real, real well. So when you start saying [[listen]] for voices it is almost very reminiscent of this novel. Now maybe there have been other novels like this maybe I am just not well read enough. How did Paretti come up with this, is this something that has been going on for a long time, that is people consorting, have people been consorting with [[demons]] in the past, is that why, is there enough [[literature]] around to support that because basically when you say that it almost reminds me of this book and how people gather together for the [[purpose]] of seeking their [[counselor]] and it becomes a big battle between [[fundamentalist]] [[Christians]] who are praying for the [[support]] for the [[angels]] of the Lord so they overpower the angels of darkness and so that God wins a spiritual victory on this planet. So what am I asking is Paretti, how did he portray this so accurately, or not so accurately, how did he come up with this, it seems such a [[parallel]] it keeps haunting my thoughts.

Iruka: Let me answer that in two sections. Two divisions. The first one we will talk about [[listening]] to the [[voice]] inside, judging what it says and of course always looking for the [[fruit of the spirit]]. Is this producing good fruit, or fruit at all. OK this is how you [[judge]], are you calmer inside, do you show the fruit, the [[goodness]], the [[kindness]], the [[love]], do you have [[joy]]. That way you know that you are a [[child of God]]. The second part I am not sure about this [[writer]] however it is apparent that he is operating in [[fear]]. That when you seek [[the Father]] you can be intercepted by [[evil]], or bad spirits and soon are on the wrong road. And this is [[fear]]. Now we have addressed the [[fact]] that since the [[adjudication]] there are no negative bad spirits. [[Caligastia]] is gone, there is no [[power]] left, no [[negative]] power from him. You are aware of that aren't you. (yes I am) OK, but there is still much [[fear]] and indeed you experienced fear when you were trying to hear Curtis, and by getting to know Curtis the fear has gone away. Think of it on your own [[experience]] level. You are becoming aware of Curtis, of getting to know him as a gentle, loving, [[beautiful]] creature who wishes you to grow towards [[the Father]]. That is how you know. So once the fear is gone, you are free to [[grow]], there are many people still operating in [[fear]]. That is one of the major [[emotions]] of [[this planet]], is fear. It is everywhere, as far as knowing where he got his [[ideas]], I don't know. He could have gotten them in many places, but he definitely let his fear run wild. Does this help?

Iruka: Let me answer that in two sections. Two divisions. The first one we will talk about [[listening]] to the [[voice]] inside, judging what it says and of course always looking for the [[fruit of the spirit]]. Is this producing good fruit, or fruit at all. OK this is how you [[judge]], are you calmer inside, do you show the fruit, the [[goodness]], the [[kindness]], the [[love]], do you have [[joy]]. That way you know that you are a [[child of God]]. The second part I am not sure about this [[writer]] however it is apparent that he is operating in [[fear]]. That when you seek [[the Father]] you can be intercepted by [[evil]], or bad spirits and soon are on the wrong road. And this is [[fear]]. Now we have addressed the [[fact]] that since the [[adjudication]] there are no negative bad spirits. [[Caligastia]] is gone, there is no [[power]] left, no [[negative]] power from him. You are aware of that aren't you. (yes I am) OK, but there is still much [[fear]] and indeed you experienced fear when you were trying to hear Curtis, and by getting to know Curtis the fear has gone away. Think of it on your own [[experience]] level. You are becoming aware of Curtis, of getting to know him as a gentle, loving, [[beautiful]] creature who wishes you to grow towards [[the Father]]. That is how you know. So once the fear is gone, you are free to [[grow]], there are many people still operating in [[fear]]. That is one of the major [[emotions]] of [[this planet]], is fear. It is everywhere, as far as knowing where he got his [[ideas]], I don't know. He could have gotten them in many places, but he definitely let his fear run wild. Does this help?

Iruka: You are welcome and it is OK. The [[fear]] is still there we need to talk about it, we need to [[learn]] ways of growing and letting the fear fall away. So don't [[apologize]], I have come here to help and if helping you with your fear is what is needed that is fine. Is this OK? (OK)

Iruka: You are welcome and it is OK. The [[fear]] is still there we need to talk about it, we need to [[learn]] ways of growing and letting the fear fall away. So don't [[apologize]], I have come here to help and if helping you with your fear is what is needed that is fine. Is this OK? (OK)

===='''''[[Emotion]]'''''====

===='''''[[Emotion]]'''''====

S2: Hi, During [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_school Sunday school] today we [[studied]] [[Jesus]] [[173:1 Cleansing the Temple|throwing over the tables in the temple]], the coin changers. And Jesus was [[expressing]] one of the more emotional points that is recorded in His life in the [[Bible]]. I talk in front of many people every week and when I am talking my [[emotion]] sometimes gets in my way and sometimes my emotions are what make me successful. I am [[wondering]] if as a [[spiritual]] [[being]] that these emotions or passions still exist. That is the question.

S2: Hi, During [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_school Sunday school] today we [[studied]] [[Jesus]] [[173:1 Cleansing the Temple|throwing over the tables in the temple]], the coin changers. And Jesus was [[expressing]] one of the more emotional points that is recorded in His life in the [[Bible]]. I talk in front of many people every week and when I am talking my [[emotion]] sometimes gets in my way and sometimes my emotions are what make me successful. I am [[wondering]] if as a [[spiritual]] [[being]] that these emotions or passions still exist. That is the question.

Iruka: The [[positive]] ones do, yes. The [[love]], the [[joy]], the thrill of seeing a human make a positive [[choice]], a choice towards [[the Father]]. Yes, very much, in [[fact]] in some ways stronger, more emotion than as a [[material]] [[creature]]. But we have learned to slough off the negative, the [[fear]], the [[envy]], the [[anger]]. Fear was instilled in [[creatures]] to help them [[survive]]. The flight or fight, a matter of survival to get out of harm's way. That has greatly decreased, there are few situations where a wild [[animal]] will [[attack]], but still humans carry this [[fear]] and use it in other ways in [[anxiety]], turns into stress which harms the [[body]]. It is no longer useful, it wastes a lot of [[energy]]. So we do not feel the negative emotions. Your [[Morontial]] [[experience]] will help you shed these [[negative]] feelings and increase the [[positive]] [[feelings]]. Does this answer?

Iruka: The [[positive]] ones do, yes. The [[love]], the [[joy]], the thrill of seeing a human make a positive [[choice]], a choice towards [[the Father]]. Yes, very much, in [[fact]] in some ways stronger, more emotion than as a [[material]] [[creature]]. But we have learned to slough off the negative, the [[fear]], the [[envy]], the [[anger]]. Fear was instilled in [[creatures]] to help them [[survive]]. The flight or fight, a matter of survival to get out of harm's way. That has greatly decreased, there are few situations where a wild [[animal]] will [[attack]], but still humans carry this [[fear]] and use it in other ways in [[anxiety]], turns into stress which harms the [[body]]. It is no longer useful, it wastes a lot of [[energy]]. So we do not feel the negative emotions. Your [[Morontial]] [[experience]] will help you shed these [[negative]] feelings and increase the [[positive]] [[feelings]]. Does this answer?

Iruka: Can man make a [[virus]]?

Iruka: Can man make a [[virus]]?

E1: When I mean is modify it to some extent, you know man is working with [[DNA]], and they are able to in the petri dish, create or [[change]] small entities like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacteria bacteria] and viruses from what I can gather in terms of [[information]].

E1: When I mean is modify it to some extent, you know man is working with [[DNA]], and they are able to in the petri dish, create or [[change]] small entities like [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacteria bacteria] and viruses from what I can gather in terms of [[information]].

Iruka: So your question is did a [[human being]] change the virus? Not as far as I [[understand]] it, no. However I am not well versed in that [[scientific]] area. So maybe I should say I don't know.

Iruka: So your question is did a [[human being]] change the virus? Not as far as I [[understand]] it, no. However I am not well versed in that [[scientific]] area. So maybe I should say I don't know.