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==Session==

==Session==

===Opening===

===Opening===

Opening [[prayer]], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer_of_Saint_Francis Prayer of St. Francis]

Opening [[prayer]], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer_of_Saint_Francis Prayer of St. Francis]

Machiventa Melchizedek: "Greetings. I am [[Machiventa]]. I have come here today to [[speak]] with this group and to give my personal [[blessings]] on the [[events]] that will take place in the near [[future]] with the gathering of these two groups, of [[Woods Cross TeaM|Woods Cross]] and [[Pocatello TeaM|Pocatello]]. It is our [[desire]] that you come together in this human [[fellowship]] and through this bonding and through your [[desire]] to [[learn]] of [[the Father]]'s will, that you will likewise grow in spiritual [[attributes]]. And so it is my desire today to give to you our blessing and to [[invite]] you all to open yourselves and [[pray]] that the increased [[enlightenment]] in [[spiritual]], in [[mindal]], and in human terms will be met by your weekend together. I will now take my leave and return you to Daniel."

Machiventa Melchizedek: "Greetings. I am [[Machiventa]]. I have come here today to [[speak]] with this group and to give my personal [[blessings]] on the [[events]] that will take place in the near [[future]] with the gathering of these two groups, of [[Woods Cross TeaM|Woods Cross]] and [[Pocatello TeaM|Pocatello]]. It is our [[desire]] that you come together in this human [[fellowship]] and through this bonding and through your [[desire]] to [[learn]] of [[the Father]]'s will, that you will likewise grow in spiritual [[attributes]]. And so it is my desire today to give to you our blessing and to [[invite]] you all to open yourselves and [[pray]] that the increased [[enlightenment]] in [[spiritual]], in [[mindal]], and in human terms will be met by your weekend together. I will now take my leave and return you to Daniel."

Daniel: "Thank you. It is a [[pleasure]] to have you and N3 with us this evening."

Daniel: "Thank you. It is a [[pleasure]] to have you and N3 with us this evening."

===='''''[[Dimensions]]'''''====

===='''''[[Dimensions]]'''''====

J2: "Could you talk a little further in your lesson about the [[dimensions]]? You referred to the one dimensional [[God]] to a child, who then growing becomes aware of a [[two]] [[dimensional]] God and the [[Urantia Book]] giving a third dimension. Just recently I was [[reading]] the [[Urantia Book]] about [[personality]] which is manifest on [[seven]] levels, [[three]] [[finite]], three in the [[absonite]] and one approaching the [[absolute]]. And of course we know in the [[physical]] world we live in a three [[dimensional]] world. You [[morontia]] beings live in [[five]] dimensions is my [[understanding]], and spiritual entities live in [[seven]] dimensions. So it is not really an [[analogy]] that you are using to use the dimensional terms. It seems like it is more real, more [[truth]] to it. Can you comment more in a word about the [[dimension]] for both the [[physical]], [[intellectual]], and [[spiritual]] world? I believe what you are saying is that there is an intellectual [[understanding]] of these different dimensions and we are limited with the limitations of the [[Urantia Book]] in the third dimension. Or I guess we will have to wait for higher worlds before we can go into higher dimensions, for an [[understanding]] of the [[First Source and Center]]?"

J2: "Could you talk a little further in your lesson about the [[dimensions]]? You referred to the one dimensional [[God]] to a child, who then growing becomes aware of a [[two]] [[dimensional]] God and the [[Urantia Book]] giving a third dimension. Just recently I was [[reading]] the [[Urantia Book]] about [[personality]] which is manifest on [[seven]] levels, [[three]] [[finite]], three in the [[absonite]] and one approaching the [[absolute]]. And of course we know in the [[physical]] world we live in a three [[dimensional]] world. You [[morontia]] beings live in five dimensions is my [[understanding]], and spiritual entities live in [[seven]] dimensions. So it is not really an [[analogy]] that you are using to use the dimensional terms. It seems like it is more real, more [[truth]] to it. Can you comment more in a word about the [[dimension]] for both the [[physical]], [[intellectual]], and [[spiritual]] world? I believe what you are saying is that there is an intellectual [[understanding]] of these different dimensions and we are limited with the limitations of the [[Urantia Book]] in the third dimension. Or I guess we will have to wait for higher worlds before we can go into higher dimensions, for an [[understanding]] of the [[First Source and Center]]?"

Daniel: "As an [[analogy]] for you: a [[child]] sits in his [[mother]]'s lap and as the mother [[reads]] to the child, the child hears the [[words]], sees the [[pictures]] in the book, and sees the words in the book. Yet to the child, the book and the words are only [[conceived]] by the child by what would be [[considered]] a one dimensional aspect, a very narrow and funneled [[viewpoint]]. And yet the child is [[intrigued]] by the words the mother is saying. The child is intrigued by the [[words]] in that it creates for this child [[images]] and [[visions]]. And in this regard the child, then, begins to come into a [[knowledge]] and [[understanding]]. However, because of the child's [[limitations]], he can only understand the [[beauty]] of the book when it presented by the [[mother]], when she is able to bring the [[words]] to life for him.

Daniel: "As an [[analogy]] for you: a [[child]] sits in his [[mother]]'s lap and as the mother [[reads]] to the child, the child hears the [[words]], sees the [[pictures]] in the book, and sees the words in the book. Yet to the child, the book and the words are only [[conceived]] by the child by what would be [[considered]] a one dimensional aspect, a very narrow and funneled [[viewpoint]]. And yet the child is [[intrigued]] by the words the mother is saying. The child is intrigued by the [[words]] in that it creates for this child [[images]] and [[visions]]. And in this regard the child, then, begins to come into a [[knowledge]] and [[understanding]]. However, because of the child's [[limitations]], he can only understand the [[beauty]] of the book when it presented by the [[mother]], when she is able to bring the [[words]] to life for him.

And then the [[child]] continues to [[grow]]. As the child enters [[school]] he is given by the [[teacher]] these same [[letters]] that were in the book. And the child begins to see that each letter has a [[sound]], and as these letters are put together they form [[words]]. The sounds and the [[written]] word, then, has two dimensions now; not just the [[sound]], but the [[written]] word as well. And so the child then grows in another [[dimension]] in [[understanding]]. No longer are the words that his [[mother]] spoke available to him, but through [[sight]] he is able to see and read the words. And as this becomes a learned [[experience]] for him the child grows. And before long it is not just [[individual]] [[words]] that he reads, but full sentences. And in time, the child is off on his own [[journey]] of being able to take these [[words]] and put them together to read on his own, to be on that [[adventure]] of [[imagination]] and the like. What before had to be presented by his [[mother]] is now a broader [[dimension]] for him. He is able to three dimensionally now understand [[words]], [[language]], and [[communication]].

And then the [[child]] continues to [[grow]]. As the child enters [[school]] he is given by the [[teacher]] these same [[letters]] that were in the book. And the child begins to see that each letter has a [[sound]], and as these letters are put together they form [[words]]. The sounds and the [[written]] word, then, has two dimensions now; not just the [[sound]], but the [[written]] word as well. And so the child then grows in another [[dimension]] in [[understanding]]. No longer are the words that his [[mother]] spoke available to him, but through [[sight]] he is able to see and read the words. And as this becomes a learned [[experience]] for him the child grows. And before long it is not just [[individual]] [[words]] that he reads, but full sentences. And in time, the child is off on his own [[journey]] of being able to take these [[words]] and put them together to read on his own, to be on that [[adventure]] of [[imagination]] and the like. What before had to be presented by his [[mother]] is now a broader [[dimension]] for him. He is able to three dimensionally now understand [[words]], [[language]], and [[communication]].

And this is how I liken your [[understanding]] of [[the Father]]. You start out with a very narrow view, but with each [[phase]] of [[growth]] and [[discovery]] you are able to understand in greater and greater depth. And, yes, as you leave this [[plane]] of [[existence]] and you travel the [[many worlds]] and go through the many [[schools]] available to you, you will, indeed, be able to realize and [[envision]] and see the [[First Source and Center]] from a broader [[perspective]]; more [[dimensions]] than you have here. To even to begin to [[describe]] something that you cannot [[visualize]] or [[comprehend]] would not benefit you at this time. But rather hold to the concept that in [[future]] you will, again, rise and grow to bigger [[concepts]] and greater depths, an expansion of the [[horizons]] of [[knowledge]]. And through that the [[grandeur]] of what the [[First Source and Center]] is, likewise, [[grows]] for you. Does this help?"

And this is how I liken your [[understanding]] of [[the Father]]. You start out with a very narrow view, but with each [[phase]] of [[growth]] and [[discovery]] you are able to understand in greater and greater depth. And, yes, as you leave this [[plane]] of [[existence]] and you travel the many worlds and go through the many [[schools]] available to you, you will, indeed, be able to realize and [[envision]] and see the [[First Source and Center]] from a broader [[perspective]]; more [[dimensions]] than you have here. To even to begin to [[describe]] something that you cannot [[visualize]] or [[comprehend]] would not benefit you at this time. But rather hold to the concept that in [[future]] you will, again, rise and grow to bigger [[concepts]] and greater depths, an expansion of the [[horizons]] of [[knowledge]]. And through that the [[grandeur]] of what the [[First Source and Center]] is, likewise, [[grows]] for you. Does this help?"

J2: "Yes, it does. Thank you teacher."

J2: "Yes, it does. Thank you teacher."

V1: "Daniel, this is V1. I have tried to relate that lesson to me. Number one, I am probably one of those that stay away from the first half of [[the book]] and prefer [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_III._The_History_of_Urantia part three] and [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus four], but I was trying to think in terms of the [[fact]] that apart from another [[existence]], even in this life on this level, certainly [[God]] has become greater than He was when I [[consider]] what I once [[believed]]. Just the concept that the [[Thought Adjusters]], the Indwelling Spirits are within all [[mortals]] and that we all [[brothers and sisters]] makes God so much greater. So what I am saying is that we don't necessarily have to wait for another level to [[realize]] some of the [[grandeur]] of [[God]]. I know that He is [[growing]] so much for me since I first started seeking and [[thinking]] and verbalizing what I [[thought]] of God. He is, indeed, much greater than He was.

V1: "Daniel, this is V1. I have tried to relate that lesson to me. Number one, I am probably one of those that stay away from the first half of [[the book]] and prefer [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_III._The_History_of_Urantia part three] and [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=UB#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus four], but I was trying to think in terms of the [[fact]] that apart from another [[existence]], even in this life on this level, certainly [[God]] has become greater than He was when I [[consider]] what I once [[believed]]. Just the concept that the [[Thought Adjusters]], the Indwelling Spirits are within all [[mortals]] and that we all [[brothers and sisters]] makes God so much greater. So what I am saying is that we don't necessarily have to wait for another level to [[realize]] some of the [[grandeur]] of [[God]]. I know that He is [[growing]] so much for me since I first started seeking and [[thinking]] and verbalizing what I [[thought]] of God. He is, indeed, much greater than He was.

Daniel: "Indeed, and so shall His grandeur grow throughout your [[life]] on this [[plane]]. And to all of you I must say this. Each day as you take the time to be with that [[Indwelling Spirit]], as you take the time to sit with the [[First Source and Center]], as you take the time to [[pray]] and be with [[Michael]], as you take the time to call upon the [[Infinite Spirit]] and the [[Mother Spirit]] to help you in your [[understanding]], then as you do this, each time that you do this you are enhancing and [[growing]] in your [[understanding]] of the [[First Source and Center]]. Indeed, daily will the [[degree]] and the [[magnitude]] of [[the Parent]] of us all grow."

Daniel: "Indeed, and so shall His grandeur grow throughout your [[life]] on this [[plane]]. And to all of you I must say this. Each day as you take the time to be with that [[Indwelling Spirit]], as you take the time to sit with the [[First Source and Center]], as you take the time to [[pray]] and be with [[Michael]], as you take the time to call upon the [[Infinite Spirit]] and the [[Mother Spirit]] to help you in your [[understanding]], then as you do this, each time that you do this you are enhancing and [[growing]] in your [[understanding]] of the [[First Source and Center]]. Indeed, daily will the [[degree]] and the [[magnitude]] of [[the Parent]] of us all grow."

V1: "Thank you Daniel."

V1: "Thank you Daniel."

===='''''[[Discernment]]''''', '''''[[Service]]'''''====

===='''''[[Discernment]]''''', '''''[[Service]]'''''====

B5: "Daniel, this is B5. My [[wife]] came down with me. I [[believe]] that she has a [[question]] for you and I believe that she is very (?). I would like to give her the [[opportunity]]...she is shaking her head no so I will ask for her. She has a [[friend]] who is going through some real severe [[trials]], [[mentally]]/[[emotionally]] and [[physically]] with her [[family]] and with her [[mother]]. Her name is . ..... And she calls to talk to my [[wife]]. You know they are best [[friends]], but whenever she talks with her or comes back from a [[meeting]] with her she is just an emotional wreck! And she is to the [[point]] where she is afraid she will have to give up being this girl's [[friend]]. And she feels really bad for her and doesn't know how to help her. Just for her own sake she is [[afraid]] of becoming an [[emotional]] wreck herself. Do you have any [[advice]] or any [[enlightenment]] or maybe any suggestions?"

B5: "Daniel, this is B5. My [[wife]] came down with me. I [[believe]] that she has a [[question]] for you and I believe that she is very (?). I would like to give her the [[opportunity]]...she is shaking her head no so I will ask for her. She has a [[friend]] who is going through some real severe [[trials]], [[mentally]]/[[emotionally]] and [[physically]] with her [[family]] and with her [[mother]]. Her name is . ..... And she calls to talk to my [[wife]]. You know they are best [[friends]], but whenever she talks with her or comes back from a [[meeting]] with her she is just an emotional wreck! And she is to the [[point]] where she is afraid she will have to give up being this girl's [[friend]]. And she feels really bad for her and doesn't know how to help her. Just for her own sake she is [[afraid]] of becoming an [[emotional]] wreck herself. Do you have any [[advice]] or any [[enlightenment]] or maybe any suggestions?"

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