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L1: Yes, thank you.
 
L1: Yes, thank you.
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S2: Iruka, my [[father]]'s group heard a similar lesson and my father afterward said...this is how he phrased it...he said as you get older, your years pass quicker but you can also see further into the [[future]]. If you don't treat [[death]] as the end, then you don't have to get more [[anxious]] as you get older. He found that a very, very [[peaceful]] [[thought]] that helped him slow down, and he is slowing down. It is just marvelous to hear him [[recite]] that lesson. That is a comment. Now, the whole issue of [[agriculture]] in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Joaquin_Valley San Joaquin Valley] in California, and how the [[land]] is becoming sterilized and saline...I'm sure we could start off with the [[death]] in the streets of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_DC Washington D.C.], all these kinds of things can be used to [[motivate]] you in your life, motivate me, and your lesson seems to free me to pay [[attention]] to the little things. Really, this is the same lesson that Ceranta has been going through....I am just talking, I had better be [[quiet]].
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S2: Iruka, my [[father]]'s group heard a similar lesson and my father afterward said...this is how he phrased it...he said as you get older, your years pass quicker but you can also see further into the [[future]]. If you don't treat [[death]] as the end, then you don't have to get more [[anxious]] as you get older. He found that a very, very [[peaceful]] [[thought]] that helped him slow down, and he is slowing down. It is just marvelous to hear him [[recite]] that lesson. That is a comment. Now, the whole issue of [[agriculture]] in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Joaquin_Valley San Joaquin Valley] in California, and how the [[land]] is becoming sterilized and saline...I'm sure we could start off with the [[death]] in the streets of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_DC Washington D.C.], all these kinds of things can be used to [[motivate]] you in your life, motivate me, and your lesson seems to free me to pay [[attention]] to the little things. Really, this is the same lesson that Ceranta has been going through....I am just talking, I had better be [[quiet]].
    
Iruka: Thank you for [[sharing]] that and it is very well put, yes.
 
Iruka: Thank you for [[sharing]] that and it is very well put, yes.
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Iruka: Not as I [[understand]] things, no. [[Guidance]] is given at times to those working on the [[problem]], doing the [[research]], putting the pieces of a giant [[puzzle]] together. This would mainly be with your [[scientists]], your [[doctors]] that are doing their tests, doing their research. Does this answer?
 
Iruka: Not as I [[understand]] things, no. [[Guidance]] is given at times to those working on the [[problem]], doing the [[research]], putting the pieces of a giant [[puzzle]] together. This would mainly be with your [[scientists]], your [[doctors]] that are doing their tests, doing their research. Does this answer?
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E1: Yes, I have one other question. A while back, I think it was two years ago, the [http://www.fda.gov/ FDA] got this man to stop making [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancell Cancell], that is what he called the product, and he declared that it was a [[cure]] to [www.fda.gov/Cancer cancer]. Would you know if that is so?
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E1: Yes, I have one other question. A while back, I think it was two years ago, the [https://www.fda.gov/ FDA] got this man to stop making [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancell Cancell], that is what he called the product, and he declared that it was a [[cure]] to [www.fda.gov/Cancer cancer]. Would you know if that is so?
    
Iruka: Would I know that if this is really a cure? I am [[aware]] that in some kinds of cancer it can be helpful and possibly stop the [[cell]] growth. It is not a blanket cure. Does this answer?
 
Iruka: Would I know that if this is really a cure? I am [[aware]] that in some kinds of cancer it can be helpful and possibly stop the [[cell]] growth. It is not a blanket cure. Does this answer?
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Iruka: Absolutely not, but look to what we have been [[talking]] about for the last year. About you as [[individuals]] looking to [[the Father]], growing toward the Father, taking on His characteristics of [[love]] and [[peace]], you know what I am talking about. This [[changes]] who you are as an [[individual]], this time spent with [[the Father]] not only changes your [[religious]] [[vision]], but your [[physical]], your [[social]], your [[psychological]] make-up. You become a different person. This is what is lacking on [[this planet]]. [[Individuals]] are not looking to their Creator for sustenance, to be sustained with everything that they need. So [[disease]] [[manifests]] itself in the [[physical]] body but it is a [[reflection]] of what is going on with the whole individual. Then as you back away, with the whole [[culture]], and then as you back away from that, with the whole planet. Is this a little bit better [[description]]?
 
Iruka: Absolutely not, but look to what we have been [[talking]] about for the last year. About you as [[individuals]] looking to [[the Father]], growing toward the Father, taking on His characteristics of [[love]] and [[peace]], you know what I am talking about. This [[changes]] who you are as an [[individual]], this time spent with [[the Father]] not only changes your [[religious]] [[vision]], but your [[physical]], your [[social]], your [[psychological]] make-up. You become a different person. This is what is lacking on [[this planet]]. [[Individuals]] are not looking to their Creator for sustenance, to be sustained with everything that they need. So [[disease]] [[manifests]] itself in the [[physical]] body but it is a [[reflection]] of what is going on with the whole individual. Then as you back away, with the whole [[culture]], and then as you back away from that, with the whole planet. Is this a little bit better [[description]]?
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E1: Yes, thank you very much. So you are saying in other [[words]], [[AIDS]] is something like...for example when someone doesn't get enough [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C vitamin C] they get [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scurvy scurvy], are you more or less saying that aids is like a [[symptom]] of (being) spiritually malnourished?
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E1: Yes, thank you very much. So you are saying in other [[words]], [[AIDS]] is something like...for example when someone doesn't get enough [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C vitamin C] they get [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scurvy scurvy], are you more or less saying that aids is like a [[symptom]] of (being) spiritually malnourished?
    
Iruka: If I say yes to that question, then you will point to [[individuals]] and say 'they are bad people'...
 
Iruka: If I say yes to that question, then you will point to [[individuals]] and say 'they are bad people'...
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Iruka: Your welcome. You might, if you have time, [[ponder]] this. See if your [[Thought Adjuster]] will help you fit things [[together]]. How [[different]] systems overlap each other and [[influence]] each other. You may get [[insight]] that way.
 
Iruka: Your welcome. You might, if you have time, [[ponder]] this. See if your [[Thought Adjuster]] will help you fit things [[together]]. How [[different]] systems overlap each other and [[influence]] each other. You may get [[insight]] that way.
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W1: Iruka, again on the same subject although I don't want to beat it to death. In some of my [[travels]], I have run into some [[healers]] that....well first let me say that I [[understand]] what you are saying, it makes a lot of sense, it [[enlightened]] me. One particular fellow that I met in New York that is having a [[profound]] effect with [[AIDS]] patients, and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer cancer] patients, and now that you have said what you said, it makes a lot of sense. He wasn't really [[curing]] them, he was actually doing more of a [[focus]] job on [[the Father]]. Because talking with one of the aids patients... after the session he had with him, for several days, he was a lot more into God, he [[meditated]], and he just turned into a much more spiritual person. And that was part of the [[curriculum]] that this particular healer put them through. So we wouldn't call that a cure would we?
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W1: Iruka, again on the same subject although I don't want to beat it to death. In some of my [[travels]], I have run into some [[healers]] that....well first let me say that I [[understand]] what you are saying, it makes a lot of sense, it [[enlightened]] me. One particular fellow that I met in New York that is having a [[profound]] effect with [[AIDS]] patients, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer cancer] patients, and now that you have said what you said, it makes a lot of sense. He wasn't really [[curing]] them, he was actually doing more of a [[focus]] job on [[the Father]]. Because talking with one of the aids patients... after the session he had with him, for several days, he was a lot more into God, he [[meditated]], and he just turned into a much more spiritual person. And that was part of the [[curriculum]] that this particular healer put them through. So we wouldn't call that a cure would we?
    
Iruka: Not for the whole [[population]], but perhaps for this [[individual]]. We do need to [[discuss]] what we mean by cure, because that does mean [[different]] things to different people, certainly. Back to our [[language]] again.
 
Iruka: Not for the whole [[population]], but perhaps for this [[individual]]. We do need to [[discuss]] what we mean by cure, because that does mean [[different]] things to different people, certainly. Back to our [[language]] again.
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Iruka: Yes, that there is not a pill that everyone can take and be well. [thank you]
 
Iruka: Yes, that there is not a pill that everyone can take and be well. [thank you]
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G3: Hello Iruka, since we are on the topic of [[health]] issues, I have a [[problem]] I have been having with my right hand. Four of my fingers have been numb since before I had the baby and they started tingling and being numb at the same time. I have been to the [[doctor]]...it doesn't seem to be a major [[problem]] right now but it is very [[irritating]] to me and it can also cause my movement in my handwriting to slow down because I am not able to hold a pencil tight, and I am not able to grasp things tightly. I was [[wondering]] if you had any [[insight]] to the problem of what it might be. My doctor first said it might be [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpal_tunnel carpal tunnel] and I was wearing a brace but now she decided she is going to send me to have more tests done. I was just wondering if you had any insight on what the problem could be.
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G3: Hello Iruka, since we are on the topic of [[health]] issues, I have a [[problem]] I have been having with my right hand. Four of my fingers have been numb since before I had the baby and they started tingling and being numb at the same time. I have been to the [[doctor]]...it doesn't seem to be a major [[problem]] right now but it is very [[irritating]] to me and it can also cause my movement in my handwriting to slow down because I am not able to hold a pencil tight, and I am not able to grasp things tightly. I was [[wondering]] if you had any [[insight]] to the problem of what it might be. My doctor first said it might be [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpal_tunnel carpal tunnel] and I was wearing a brace but now she decided she is going to send me to have more tests done. I was just wondering if you had any insight on what the problem could be.
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Iruka: That is certainly something that should be checked. My first question would be, are you getting enough of your [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamins vitamins]?
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Iruka: That is certainly something that should be checked. My first question would be, are you getting enough of your [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamins vitamins]?
    
G3: I believe I am. I used to take more, but I slowed down. I take a multiple vitamin, I take extra iron, and I take vitamin E. The only thing I am not taking that I might be lacking in is calcium. I take some, the minimum, but I am not taking an excess of calcium. That is the only vitamin, to my [[knowledge]] that I might be lacking. It could be something lacking in my vitamins that I am not aware of.
 
G3: I believe I am. I used to take more, but I slowed down. I take a multiple vitamin, I take extra iron, and I take vitamin E. The only thing I am not taking that I might be lacking in is calcium. I take some, the minimum, but I am not taking an excess of calcium. That is the only vitamin, to my [[knowledge]] that I might be lacking. It could be something lacking in my vitamins that I am not aware of.
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Iruka: I think you have mentioned the [[problem]]. It is very important to get your [[rest]]. It [[influences]] many things including [[productivity]], including your eating [[habits]], because you have, and this goes for anyone not getting their [[sleep]], when you have one area out of [[balance]] it will [[change]] everything else. So it is very important to get your sleep and right now, in a household with a new [[baby]], that may be months before you are back in [[balance]]. Just being aware of it, and making allowances for yourself can help.
 
Iruka: I think you have mentioned the [[problem]]. It is very important to get your [[rest]]. It [[influences]] many things including [[productivity]], including your eating [[habits]], because you have, and this goes for anyone not getting their [[sleep]], when you have one area out of [[balance]] it will [[change]] everything else. So it is very important to get your sleep and right now, in a household with a new [[baby]], that may be months before you are back in [[balance]]. Just being aware of it, and making allowances for yourself can help.
 
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V1: Hi Iruka, I am a [[scientist]] working in the field of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer cancer] [[research]]. It has been interesting to hear this whole [[conversation]] because I am one of those people who is down in there doing the [[studies]]. I am just [[wondering]] if...and what led me into this whole field was I wanted to be of [[service]] to my fellow man and also have a [[profession]] that I could be [[happy]] with or proud of or whatever [[motivates]] people to do [[science]] and spend their lives in basements or whatever. What I am asking for is some [[guidance]] or [[reassurance]] that what I am doing is the right thing and also what is the best avenue for [[sharing]] this [[knowledge]] with my fellow man. I want to make it a [[reality]], I want to make it a . .. I want to make the service part of it a reality. I have spent so much time [[learning]] and now I feel that it is really high time to start giving it back and I'm not sure what the best avenue of sharing is. I don't [[feel]] that it is through the scientific papers and the scientific... whatever, I mean they are pretty demanding, not demanding but they are a highly [[critical]] group, when you speak through the scientific papers it doesn't reach the [[public]], it doesn't reach the people who have a more [[spiritual]] [[understanding]] but they also want to know something about the science behind it, the [[disease]]. So if you could share any thoughts with me on that I would [[appreciate]] it.
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V1: Hi Iruka, I am a [[scientist]] working in the field of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer cancer] [[research]]. It has been interesting to hear this whole [[conversation]] because I am one of those people who is down in there doing the [[studies]]. I am just [[wondering]] if...and what led me into this whole field was I wanted to be of [[service]] to my fellow man and also have a [[profession]] that I could be [[happy]] with or proud of or whatever [[motivates]] people to do [[science]] and spend their lives in basements or whatever. What I am asking for is some [[guidance]] or [[reassurance]] that what I am doing is the right thing and also what is the best avenue for [[sharing]] this [[knowledge]] with my fellow man. I want to make it a [[reality]], I want to make it a . .. I want to make the service part of it a reality. I have spent so much time [[learning]] and now I feel that it is really high time to start giving it back and I'm not sure what the best avenue of sharing is. I don't [[feel]] that it is through the scientific papers and the scientific... whatever, I mean they are pretty demanding, not demanding but they are a highly [[critical]] group, when you speak through the scientific papers it doesn't reach the [[public]], it doesn't reach the people who have a more [[spiritual]] [[understanding]] but they also want to know something about the science behind it, the [[disease]]. So if you could share any thoughts with me on that I would [[appreciate]] it.
    
Iruka: Thank you for your question. You are in a very unique situation and I do have some suggestions. This will sound old hat to the rest of the [[group]] but the first person you should be concerned about is yourself. To [[grow]], try to spend [[time]] with [[the Father]], with your [[Thought Adjuster]] every day. Begin with ten or fifteen minutes and grow from there. I realize that you are very [[busy]], that you have much to accomplish, that you have many [[responsibilities]]. By [[focusing]] on the Father for a short time every day, [[feeling]] His love, growing closer to Him, enhancing and beginning [[communication]], in your [[studying]], in your [[research]] when you learn to be open to Him, He can give you [[guidance]]. He can make you [[aware]] of things, of things to look at, to try, to pursue, to aid you in your [[research]]. When you have done your work, your papers, which are [[communications]] with other [[doctors]], correct? will have the [[necessary]] background research needed to prove what you are [[writing]] about. But the first thing is to develop a [[relationship]] with your [[thought adjuster]] and then [[listen]] to Him, listen to His [[guidance]]. When I say [[listen]], it is not audible, these are [[ideas]] that come to you, suggestions, look here or look there or however it will become [[comfortable]] with you, and you will know. Does this help? Does this give you the [[guidance]] you are looking for?
 
Iruka: Thank you for your question. You are in a very unique situation and I do have some suggestions. This will sound old hat to the rest of the [[group]] but the first person you should be concerned about is yourself. To [[grow]], try to spend [[time]] with [[the Father]], with your [[Thought Adjuster]] every day. Begin with ten or fifteen minutes and grow from there. I realize that you are very [[busy]], that you have much to accomplish, that you have many [[responsibilities]]. By [[focusing]] on the Father for a short time every day, [[feeling]] His love, growing closer to Him, enhancing and beginning [[communication]], in your [[studying]], in your [[research]] when you learn to be open to Him, He can give you [[guidance]]. He can make you [[aware]] of things, of things to look at, to try, to pursue, to aid you in your [[research]]. When you have done your work, your papers, which are [[communications]] with other [[doctors]], correct? will have the [[necessary]] background research needed to prove what you are [[writing]] about. But the first thing is to develop a [[relationship]] with your [[thought adjuster]] and then [[listen]] to Him, listen to His [[guidance]]. When I say [[listen]], it is not audible, these are [[ideas]] that come to you, suggestions, look here or look there or however it will become [[comfortable]] with you, and you will know. Does this help? Does this give you the [[guidance]] you are looking for?

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