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TOMAS: I am inclined to contribute further and remark about [[morontia]] form, for as you have been given to [[understand]], when you leave your [[material]] [[existence]], there are other material spheres of a higher nature, of a [[morontial]] nature, that are visible and recognizable; indeed they are called material but they are not the dense material of your [[finite]] [[existence]] but of a higher caliber, and in some ways your [[sacred space]]s have contributed to creating a [[morontia]] environment. Much as Merium was discussing, in the cathedral, the [[temple]], or your personal [[sanctuary]], the [[holiness]] establishes a certain [[reality]] that [[transcends]] the baser material levels that are common to you all.
 
TOMAS: I am inclined to contribute further and remark about [[morontia]] form, for as you have been given to [[understand]], when you leave your [[material]] [[existence]], there are other material spheres of a higher nature, of a [[morontial]] nature, that are visible and recognizable; indeed they are called material but they are not the dense material of your [[finite]] [[existence]] but of a higher caliber, and in some ways your [[sacred space]]s have contributed to creating a [[morontia]] environment. Much as Merium was discussing, in the cathedral, the [[temple]], or your personal [[sanctuary]], the [[holiness]] establishes a certain [[reality]] that [[transcends]] the baser material levels that are common to you all.
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There are, in many [[cultures]], not only on [[Urantia]] but also on [[the worlds]] of [[time and space]], many edifices and [[wonders]] that are regarded as [[holy]] places. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niagara_Falls Niagara Falls] is a powerful place and designated one of the world's wonders; there are also in the [http://www.vpr.net/episode/30969/legend-pownals-weeping-rocks/ Native American culture rocks that "weep"]; and many [[physical]] [[phenomena]] have been given [[supernatural]] [[meaning]]. The image of the patterns in the fields comes to the mind of this [[T/R]] as an example of natural [[phenomenon]] being given [[supernatural]] [[purposes]] and reasons for being, but it is the mind of the individual that creates the [[sanctity]] of the place in the first place. As you are impressed, as you elevate your impression to fields of [[worship]], you have given [[reality]] a foothold, you have contributed to the true [[scaffolding]] of [[morontia]] [[reality]], you have added an element of [[divinity]] that was previously only [[matter]].
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There are, in many [[cultures]], not only on [[Urantia]] but also on [[the worlds]] of [[time and space]], many edifices and [[wonders]] that are regarded as [[holy]] places. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niagara_Falls Niagara Falls] is a powerful place and designated one of the world's wonders; there are also in the [https://www.vpr.net/episode/30969/legend-pownals-weeping-rocks/ Native American culture rocks that "weep"]; and many [[physical]] [[phenomena]] have been given [[supernatural]] [[meaning]]. The image of the patterns in the fields comes to the mind of this [[T/R]] as an example of natural [[phenomenon]] being given [[supernatural]] [[purposes]] and reasons for being, but it is the mind of the individual that creates the [[sanctity]] of the place in the first place. As you are impressed, as you elevate your impression to fields of [[worship]], you have given [[reality]] a foothold, you have contributed to the true [[scaffolding]] of [[morontia]] [[reality]], you have added an element of [[divinity]] that was previously only [[matter]].
    
All of these [[discussions]] that we have delved into this evening are vastly [[entertaining]] and highly [[speculative]] for, since they are so elusive and vast in [[context]] and [[nature]], they are open to [[interpretation]] to anyone who would care to dally in such [[metaphysics]]. But you had indicated an interest, and so it seemed interesting to us also to [[respond]] to your interest with some of our own.
 
All of these [[discussions]] that we have delved into this evening are vastly [[entertaining]] and highly [[speculative]] for, since they are so elusive and vast in [[context]] and [[nature]], they are open to [[interpretation]] to anyone who would care to dally in such [[metaphysics]]. But you had indicated an interest, and so it seemed interesting to us also to [[respond]] to your interest with some of our own.
 
===='''''[[Truth]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Truth]]'''''====
MERIUM: While [[listening]] to Tomas, it came to my attention as he commented also that this is [[information]] that you have probably [[read]] in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_literature#Medical_journal medical journals] or many of the areas of literature that are available today, but I am wanting to [[expressing]] a need for -- as a reminder -- that people are coming in at every level, with various appetites. We are here to [[ignite]] new [[understanding]], and when you read these [[words]] of this [[discussion]], it will [[touch]] different areas of your [[memory]] and your opening and flowering, expanding [[ability]] to [[accept]] [[truth]].
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MERIUM: While [[listening]] to Tomas, it came to my attention as he commented also that this is [[information]] that you have probably [[read]] in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_literature#Medical_journal medical journals] or many of the areas of literature that are available today, but I am wanting to [[expressing]] a need for -- as a reminder -- that people are coming in at every level, with various appetites. We are here to [[ignite]] new [[understanding]], and when you read these [[words]] of this [[discussion]], it will [[touch]] different areas of your [[memory]] and your opening and flowering, expanding [[ability]] to [[accept]] [[truth]].
    
The [[truth]] is the [[tool]] that will help you loosen the unnecessary accumulation of [[human]] [[information]]. You are having now a glut of information. But as the [[Spirit of Truth]] [[touches]] you, this excess will be put in its place, set aside and disempowered as the [[beauty]] of truth prevails in your own [[experiences]]. And I want to remind you once more that as you attend to your own personal [[space]] and develop a hallowed area, a [[vortex]] of [[liberty]] and [[freedom]], it will penetrate every area in your [[life]], especially in your [[home]]. And there will be [[resistance]]; almost a nausea will overwhelm those who are dallying, who want to [[sleep]], who are very irritated at being disturbed from their [[slumber]] because you are not behaving in your old [[manner]]. It creates great discomfort at times.
 
The [[truth]] is the [[tool]] that will help you loosen the unnecessary accumulation of [[human]] [[information]]. You are having now a glut of information. But as the [[Spirit of Truth]] [[touches]] you, this excess will be put in its place, set aside and disempowered as the [[beauty]] of truth prevails in your own [[experiences]]. And I want to remind you once more that as you attend to your own personal [[space]] and develop a hallowed area, a [[vortex]] of [[liberty]] and [[freedom]], it will penetrate every area in your [[life]], especially in your [[home]]. And there will be [[resistance]]; almost a nausea will overwhelm those who are dallying, who want to [[sleep]], who are very irritated at being disturbed from their [[slumber]] because you are not behaving in your old [[manner]]. It creates great discomfort at times.
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===Dialogue===
 
===Dialogue===
 
===='''''[[Goodness]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Goodness]]'''''====
Leah: I was wondering about... As Merium was [[speaking]] about the good will emitting as [[radiance]] from [[individuals]], I could understand [http://www.niagarafallsredevelopment.com/site-turtle.php these people in Niagara Falls] a little better. They want 25 people to do some sort of a [[configuration]]. In my own [[belief]] system I don't really see it's [[necessary]] to do a configuration for anything, but apparently they feel that, and obviously the [[entity]] that speaks is always saying that "it's not important whether you acquire this building or not; it's what this is going to bring about -- the [[brotherhood]], the [[integration]], spiritual integration." I don't know, but I just don't seem to [[understand]] and maybe it's not really that important. They keep talking about clearing and anchoring [[vortex]]. Now, as Merium was speaking, I got this visual [[picture]] of the pouring on and the pouring out the shaft of [[light]] type thing, but are there actual negative places of [[energy]]?
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Leah: I was wondering about... As Merium was [[speaking]] about the good will emitting as [[radiance]] from [[individuals]], I could understand [https://www.niagarafallsredevelopment.com/site-turtle.php these people in Niagara Falls] a little better. They want 25 people to do some sort of a [[configuration]]. In my own [[belief]] system I don't really see it's [[necessary]] to do a configuration for anything, but apparently they feel that, and obviously the [[entity]] that speaks is always saying that "it's not important whether you acquire this building or not; it's what this is going to bring about -- the [[brotherhood]], the [[integration]], spiritual integration." I don't know, but I just don't seem to [[understand]] and maybe it's not really that important. They keep talking about clearing and anchoring [[vortex]]. Now, as Merium was speaking, I got this visual [[picture]] of the pouring on and the pouring out the shaft of [[light]] type thing, but are there actual negative places of [[energy]]?
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TOMAS: It is as we discussed. Places are a [[reflection]] of the [[minds]] of those who attend them. I have heard it said that [[civilizations]] that have been destroyed by [[oppression]] have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haunt haunted] [[history]] in the atmosphere [[surrounding]] the area where that civilization once stood. It is perhaps a gift of mindal machination, but it has no [[reality]], from my [[vantage point]]. If it is not good, then it is not at all. You well know that in your life [[experiences]] the good remains and the [[pain]] is unremembered and even in the [[adjudication]] of [[the Rebellion|the rebels]], they are as if they had not been, and so that which has no [[value]] ceases to exist. How can something that does not exist take up space? How can anything [[negative]] be given a [[monument]] to its ignominious non-existence? Only [[good]] [[survives]]. Only [[love]] prevails.
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TOMAS: It is as we discussed. Places are a [[reflection]] of the [[minds]] of those who attend them. I have heard it said that [[civilizations]] that have been destroyed by [[oppression]] have [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haunt haunted] [[history]] in the atmosphere [[surrounding]] the area where that civilization once stood. It is perhaps a gift of mindal machination, but it has no [[reality]], from my [[vantage point]]. If it is not good, then it is not at all. You well know that in your life [[experiences]] the good remains and the [[pain]] is unremembered and even in the [[adjudication]] of [[the Rebellion|the rebels]], they are as if they had not been, and so that which has no [[value]] ceases to exist. How can something that does not exist take up space? How can anything [[negative]] be given a [[monument]] to its ignominious non-existence? Only [[good]] [[survives]]. Only [[love]] prevails.
    
Of course, a [[prison]] is an unhappy place and has been from its inception, but look at the [[mental]] [[energy]] that has gone into the [[creation]] of such a hole of confinement. It is unworthy of a kingdom-believer to dwell on [[reality]] that is not conducive to the [[grace]] and [[goodness]] of God and each other, for in an advanced and evolved era, even those in confinement will be [[understood]] and loved and rehabilitated. It is the mental [[configuration]], yes, that creates that [[negative]] [[vortex]], but that is not a vortex such as we are opting to promote. And it is also why I referenced the [[metaphysical]] realms as [[compared]] to the [[spiritual]] realms.
 
Of course, a [[prison]] is an unhappy place and has been from its inception, but look at the [[mental]] [[energy]] that has gone into the [[creation]] of such a hole of confinement. It is unworthy of a kingdom-believer to dwell on [[reality]] that is not conducive to the [[grace]] and [[goodness]] of God and each other, for in an advanced and evolved era, even those in confinement will be [[understood]] and loved and rehabilitated. It is the mental [[configuration]], yes, that creates that [[negative]] [[vortex]], but that is not a vortex such as we are opting to promote. And it is also why I referenced the [[metaphysical]] realms as [[compared]] to the [[spiritual]] realms.