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Daniel: My friends, let us continue. I am Daniel. You see, TRING is no [[different]] than any other stretch of [[faith]], for you take the [[risk]] each time you open your mouth of being in [[error]]. The same holds true for any [[decision]] you make when you [[trust]] the [[leading]] of the [[Spirit]]. If you insist on a errorless [[path]] your future will be dismal indeed, for it cannot [[unfold]]. This is an [[evolutionary]] universe where mistakes and incomplete knowledge make it impossible for us to make perfect decisions. It is always the [[growth]] attendant upon the willingness to [[risk]] one's [[faith]] and trust in the [[overcare]] of God that brings about evolutionary [[progress]].

Daniel: My friends, let us continue. I am Daniel. You see, TRING is no [[different]] than any other stretch of [[faith]], for you take the [[risk]] each time you open your mouth of being in [[error]]. The same holds true for any [[decision]] you make when you [[trust]] the [[leading]] of the [[Spirit]]. If you insist on a errorless [[path]] your future will be dismal indeed, for it cannot [[unfold]]. This is an [[evolutionary]] universe where mistakes and incomplete knowledge make it impossible for us to make perfect decisions. It is always the [[growth]] attendant upon the willingness to [[risk]] one's [[faith]] and trust in the [[overcare]] of God that brings about evolutionary [[progress]].

What is important about a teacher's name is not the name itself so much as the sense of presence which a name attaches to any personality. It is the "Tanareness" of Tanare that is important just as it is the "Danielness" of Daniel that is important. Certainly, Gwen, there is no doubt in anyone's mind that you have teachers..no doubt. So, try that name and see if it connects for you to a personal presence of the loving being who is one of your two assigned companions. Has this assisted you?

What is important about a teacher's name is not the name itself so much as the sense of [[presence]] which a name attaches to any [[personality]]. It is the "Tanareness" of Tanare that is important just as it is the "Danielness" of Daniel that is important. Certainly, Gwen, there is no [[doubt]] in anyone's mind that you have teachers..no doubt. So, try that name and see if it connects for you to a personal presence of the loving [[being]] who is one of your two assigned [[companions]]. Has this assisted you?

Gwen: Thank you very much.

Gwen: Thank you very much.

Daniel: But, my dear, your name....(laughter)....is still for you to work out.

Daniel: But, my dear, your name....(laughter)....is still for you to work out.

One brief comment on "spiritual names"....

One brief comment on "spiritual [[names]]"....

Virginia: Thank you, you read my mind.

Virginia: Thank you, you [[read]] my mind.

Daniel: . ....they can be overly emphasized and valued for the wrong reasons. They can acquire a mystique of superiority in the minds of some whose egos are still dominant. But their intention is nothing of this sort. They are, in fact, designations given to you by which you are known to those of us who live in this morontial and spiritual realm outside of your sensory experience. They represent your soul. They are more like "soul names" as well as spiritual names for your true reality is now in embryonic form, however, with this upliftment the embryos are coming to full birth in this mortal life, rather than waiting for the morontial worlds. Therefore your "spiritual names" which represent your true identity, have that importance and value. They are not to be understood as secret names such as secret societies use, but they are designations of your true essence. Has this clarified this subject somewhat, Leetah, my dear?

Daniel: . ....they can be overly emphasized and valued for the wrong reasons. They can acquire a [[mystique]] of superiority in the [[minds]] of some whose [[egos]] are still dominant. But their [[intention]] is nothing of this sort. They are, in fact, designations given to you by which you are known to those of us who live in this [[morontial]] and [[spiritual]] realm outside of your sensory [[experience]]. They represent [[your soul]]. They are more like "soul names" as well as spiritual names for your true [[reality]] is now in [[embryonic]] form, however, with this upliftment the embryos are coming to full [[birth]] in this [[mortal]] life, rather than waiting for the [[morontial]] worlds. Therefore your "spiritual names" which [[represent]] your true [[identity]], have that importance and [[value]]. They are not to be understood as [[secret]] names such as [[secret societies]] use, but they are designations of your true [[essence]]. Has this [[clarified]] this subject somewhat, Leetah, my dear?

Virginia: Thank you. That was definitely my question, what was the [[purpose]] and why do we use them. I thank you for answering before I even asked. I do have another [[curiosity]] question that I was reminded of this week and that is the wonderful [[experience]] that Debbie and I had [[listening]] to Rebecca. I don't believe I have ever asked because I assumed that the lighted [[silhouettes]] that I saw that night were you and Ham. If so, is Ham indeed, a head taller than you, with you, Daniel, being shorter? And does that carry on into the [[morontia]] realm?

Virginia: Thank you. That was definitely my question, what was the purpose and why do we use them. I thank you for answering before I even asked. I do have another curiosity question that I was reminded of this week and that is the wonderful experience that Debbie and I had listening to Rebecca. I don't believe I have ever asked because I assumed that the lighted silhouettes that I saw that night were you and Ham. If so, is Ham indeed, a head taller than you, with you, Daniel, being shorter? And does that carry on into the morontia realm?

Daniel: My friend, you know that you saw our forms as lighted shapes of [[morontial]] energy. Morontial bodies are not identical, as is true, also, for [[mortal]] bodies. Each personality vehicle is fashioned to more and more accurately [[reflect]] that individual's [[identity]]. Size as you perceived it does not correlate with [[physical]] and mortal size. It has no [[meaning]] of that sort. It merely is one aspect of the differences which the [[personality]] vehicles [[express]].

Do not misconstrue my words to mean that the larger the [[morontia]] [[personality]] vehicle the greater the spiritual [[status]] of that individual, for that is not true either. Morontia forms are [[transformed]] in many [[changes]] which occur from the different [[ratio]] of material and spiritual which comprises morontial, beginning with mostly material and moving to the conclusion of mostly spiritual until that stage when morontial is transformed into [[purely]] [[spiritual]]. These are matters which have little relevance for you now because it would be in [[error]] for you to conclude that there are physical measurements which measure [[spiritual growth]]. Do you understand this point?

 

Do not misconstrue my words to mean that the larger the morontia personality vehicle the greater the spiritual status of that individual, for that is not true either. Morontia forms are transformed in many changes which occur from the different ratio of material and spiritual which comprises morontial, beginning with mostly material and moving to the conclusion of mostly spiritual until that stage when morontial is transformed into purely spiritual. These are matters which have little relevance for you now because it would be in error for you to conclude that there are physical measurements which measure spiritual growth. Do you understand this point?

Virginia: Yes, Daniel, and I hadn't thought that. I had thought in terms of the lighted forms being an indication of the former mortal physical size. I did not think in terms of spiritual ability or qualifications.

Virginia: Yes, Daniel, and I hadn't thought that. I had thought in terms of the lighted forms being an indication of the former mortal physical size. I did not think in terms of spiritual ability or qualifications.

Virginia: I believe that, thank you.

Virginia: I believe that, thank you.

Daniel: The size of mortals is determined by many things, one of them being the size of the planet of nativity, you see. That is a general rule. Differences among mortals on the same planet are the result of genetic variations which the Life Carriers bring about. I can say this much..Urantia being a life experimental planet, the variation is much greater than standard planets. There is much more variety on purpose in the experimental planets. However, I think this question has exhausted its value...and I am aware that we are past our usual time.

Daniel: The size of [[mortals]] is determined by many things, one of them being the size of the planet of [[nativity]], you see. That is a general rule. [[Differences]] among mortals on the same planet are the result of [[genetic]] variations which the [[Life Carriers]] bring about. I can say this much.. [[Urantia]] being a life [[experimental planet]], the variation is much greater than standard planets. There is much more [[variety]] on purpose in the experimental planets. However, I think this question has [[exhausted]] its value...and I am aware that we are past our usual time.

 

Again, I thank Andronason for his stirring message and I tell you, my dear friends, that it is my heartfelt pleasure to be able to converse with you in this setting and whenever I am able to get through to your consciousness as individuals. I wish you would now stand and once again join your hands.

Again, I thank Andronason for his stirring message and I tell you, my dear friends, that it is my heartfelt [[pleasure]] to be able to [[converse]] with you in this setting and whenever I am able to get through to your [[consciousness]] as individuals. I wish you would now stand and once again join your hands.

Let us worship. Oh Paradise Trinity, God in three Persons, as your love streams down upon us, merciful, loving, great, holy, beyond our understanding, we join with the angels and the superangels of Paradise in our thanksgiving, in our praise. As you have created this incredible universe which we are privileged to be a part of, as you have made us to love and to share with all will creatures, all personalities of will dignity and that we don't work in isolation but with all the family of your creation, I thank you for these my friends, my mortal associates who have valued this experience enough to be here tonight, coming back faithfully week after week. Bring to us all that You desire, Father, in terms of spiritual growth opportunities and make us mindful ever of the service which You desire that we show each other and all others day by day. Send these home with joyful hearts, I pray. In the name of Michael, our Sovereign Master. Amen.

Let us [[worship]]. Oh [[Paradise Trinity]], God in three Persons, as your [[love]] streams down upon us, merciful, loving, great, [[holy]], beyond our [[understanding]], we join with the [[Supernaphim|angels and the superangels]] of [[Paradise]] in our thanksgiving, in our [[praise]]. As you have created this incredible universe which we are [[privileged]] to be a part of, as you have made us to [[love]] and to [[share]] with all will creatures, all [[personalities]] of [[Free will|will]] [[dignity]] and that we don't work in [[isolation]] but with all the family of your creation, I thank you for these my friends, my mortal associates who have valued this [[experience]] enough to be here tonight, coming back faithfully week after week. Bring to us all that You [[desire]], Father, in terms of [[spiritual growth]] opportunities and make us mindful ever of the [[service]] which You desire that we show each other and all others day by day. Send these [[home]] with joyful [[hearts]], I pray. In the name of [[Michael]], our [[Master Son|Sovereign Master]]. [[Amen]].

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