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==Session==

==Session==

===Opening===

===Opening===

Daniel:  And so we become still; become centered and grounded as we rest in gentle humility in the presence of these wonderful spiritual beings who love us so much, and who wish to guide us in our individual journeys and our journey as a planet and a civilization.  We give great thanks for this and we wait in patience for the revelation of new insights and wisdom.  We give thanks.

Daniel:  And so we become still; become [[center]]ed and grounded as we rest in gentle [[humility]] in the [[presence]] of these [[wonderful]] [[spiritual]] [[beings]] who [[love]] us so much, and who wish to [[guide]] us in our [[individual]] journeys and our [[journey]] as a [[planet]] and a [[civilization]].  We give great thanks for this and we wait in [[patience]] for the [[revelation]] of new [[insights]] and [[wisdom]].  We give thanks.

   

   

Vicki:  Welcome to you, Monjoronson.  I am coming to this conversation, yes, still with a bit of awe, but with a little more comfort due to your sincere effort to put me at ease in our first session together.  Thank you for that.

Vicki:  Welcome to you, Monjoronson.  I am coming to this [[conversation]], yes, still with a bit of [[awe]], but with a little more comfort due to your [[sincere]] effort to put me at ease in our first session together.  Thank you for that.

   

   

MONJORONSON:  You are most welcome.

MONJORONSON:  You are most [[welcome]].

   

   

Vicki:  I’d like to begin today’s conversation with some follow-up questions from our last session, for continuity and clarification purposes.  The topics will meander a bit today, because as I am sure you know, and I am learning, that the discussion of one theme leads to questions about another.

Vicki:  I’d like to begin today’s conversation with some follow-up questions from our last session, for [[continuity]] and [[clarification]] [[purposes]].  The [[topics]] will meander a bit today, because as I am sure you know, and I am learning, that the discussion of one theme leads to questions about another.

   

   

MONJORONSON:  That is fine with me.

MONJORONSON:  That is fine with me.

===Dialogue===

===Dialogue===

Vicki:  The first question is this:  Many individuals find the truth and reconciliation process unresolved in the area of justice, in that many who were guilty of horrendous crimes were not incarcerated or punished, but allowed to go free.  They felt, as did some of the victims of these crimes, that they were not vindicated.  Those of us who are students of the Urantia Book know that on a universal level there is indeed a system and place to enact justice, and that universe administrators see to the justice due to each individual, so that it is absolute.  We’ve also been told that justice is not merely about passing on a guilty or not guilty sentence, and then exacting punishment.  So it seems to me, that in the full act of forgiveness, as you described to us, Monjoronson, that there is really no reason to feel a need for vindication.  Could you elaborate on this concept of justice and vindication?

Vicki:  The first question is this:  Many individuals find the truth and reconciliation process unresolved in the area of justice, in that many who were guilty of horrendous crimes were not incarcerated or punished, but allowed to go free.  They felt, as did some of the victims of these crimes, that they were not vindicated.  Those of us who are students of the Urantia Book know that on a universal level there is indeed a system and place to enact justice, and that universe administrators see to the justice due to each individual, so that it is absolute.  We’ve also been told that justice is not merely about passing on a guilty or not guilty sentence, and then exacting punishment.  So it seems to me, that in the full act of forgiveness, as you described to us, Monjoronson, that there is really no reason to feel a need for vindication.  Could you elaborate on this concept of justice and vindication?