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===Topic: ''Initiquity, Interfaith, UB Religion''===

===Topic: ''Iniquity, Interfaith, UB Religion''===

 

===Group: [[N. Idaho TeaM]]===

===Group: [[N. Idaho TeaM]]===

==Facilitators==

==Facilitators==

        

        

Thank you again for the question.

Thank you again for the question.

====''''[[Free will]]'''''====

===='''''[[Free will]]'''''====

*Life of iniquity

*Life of iniquity

        

        

On a world as [[confused]] as [[Urantia]] it becomes less clear the finality of such a decision to become wholly detached from the [[divine]], from [[righteousness]], [[goodness]].  The lack of [[guidance]] upon your world has caused great [[confusion]], and some indulge themselves in such [[rebellious]] actions without the [[awareness]] that there are truly [[eternal]] [[consequences]], that the world upon which you live is not one of [[random]] [[actions]], of non-consequential [[decisions]].  To some the world is merely a playground in which to revel it up and then cease to be.  The [[behavior]] of such [[individuals]] may appear to be [[iniquitous]] while the [[soul]] has yet to reject [[spirit]], for it does not know what spirit is that it could reject it.

On a world as [[confused]] as [[Urantia]] it becomes less clear the finality of such a decision to become wholly detached from the [[divine]], from [[righteousness]], [[goodness]].  The lack of [[guidance]] upon your world has caused great [[confusion]], and some indulge themselves in such [[rebellious]] actions without the [[awareness]] that there are truly [[eternal]] [[consequences]], that the world upon which you live is not one of [[random]] [[actions]], of non-consequential [[decisions]].  To some the world is merely a playground in which to revel it up and then cease to be.  The [[behavior]] of such [[individuals]] may appear to be [[iniquitous]] while the [[soul]] has yet to reject [[spirit]], for it does not know what spirit is that it could reject it.

        

        

There are truly capable ministers on high who can tend to misguided [[souls]] and offer [[guidance]].  The greatest import to each one of you is the [[progress]] of your own [[soul]], that you seek [[truth]] and [[beauty]] and [[goodness]],[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_56#56:10._TRUTH.2C_BEAUTY.2C_AND_GOODNESS] and that as you expand your [[spiritual]] [[reality]], as you magnify your own [[divine]] [[presence]], you will become a beacon of [[light]] [[illuminating]] other [[souls]] who are confused.  Such [[luminosity]] is also a protection of your [[soul]] if there should ever be one iniquitous in your presence, for the [[light]] is disturbing. Those who misunderstand will [[taste]] the light and become curious and hungry. Those who reject the light will recoil and flee.

There are truly capable ministers on high who can tend to misguided [[souls]] and offer [[guidance]].  The greatest import to each one of you is the [[progress]] of your own [[soul]], that you seek [[truth]] and [[beauty]] and [[goodness]],[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_56#56:10._TRUTH.2C_BEAUTY.2C_AND_GOODNESS] and that as you expand your [[spiritual]] [[reality]], as you magnify your own [[divine]] [[presence]], you will become a beacon of [[light]] [[illuminating]] other [[souls]] who are confused.  Such [[luminosity]] is also a protection of your [[soul]] if there should ever be one iniquitous in your presence, for the [[light]] is disturbing. Those who misunderstand will [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Senses#Smell.2C_Taste.2C_and_Touch taste] the light and become curious and hungry. Those who reject the light will recoil and flee.

        

        

I hope this addresses your question.

I hope this addresses your question.

===='''''[[Cooperation]]'''''====

===='''''[[Cooperation]]'''''====

*Interfaith Cooperation.

*Interfaith Cooperation.

Question #4:  Do you see the interfaith [[groups]], those groups who were formed from different [[religious]] [[faiths]] to improve something in the [[community]], as the primary organizers of the proposed [[co-creative]] design teams and their role in [[sustainability]]?

Question #4:  Do you see the interfaith [[groups]], those groups who were formed from different [[religious]] [[faiths]] to improve something in the [[community]], as the primary organizers of the proposed [[co-creative]] design teams and their role in [[sustainability]]?

Monjoronson:  I do.  While it is of great benefit to the [[progress]] of [[harmony]] and [[cooperation]] among all peoples on [[Urantia]] that various groups work together, I also admire and [[honor]] the [[diversity]] of each group, for all groups address the needs of particular [[personalities]] and minister to them in ways by which other groups are not organized to do so.  Just as any well [[integrated]] [[system]] [[functions]] precisely because it has distinct elements within it that provide specific [[functions]] that in the [[whole]] [[cause]] the system to effect [[actions]] and accomplish [[work]], so it is that these [[diverse]] [[groups]] are able to [[create]] an enlarged system in which much [[good]] can be brought to [[humankind]].  The strength of [[Part|each]] is offered to the [[whole]].[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_12#12:7._THE_PART_AND_THE_WHOLE]  There are the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_114#114:6._THE_MASTER_SERAPHIM_OF_PLANETARY_SUPERVISION corps of angels] who are specifically [[attuned]] to these interworkings.

Monjoronson:  I do.  While it is of great benefit to the [[progress]] of [[harmony]] and [[cooperation]] among all peoples on [[Urantia]] that various groups work together, I also admire and [[honor]] the [[diversity]] of each group, for all groups address the needs of particular [[personalities]] and minister to them in ways by which other groups are not organized to do so.  Just as any well [[integrated]] [[system]] [[functions]] precisely because it has distinct elements within it that provide specific [[functions]] that in the [[whole]] [[cause]] the system to effect [[actions]] and accomplish [[work]], so it is that these [[diverse]] [[groups]] are able to [[create]] an enlarged system in which much [[good]] can be brought to [[humankind]].  The strength of [[Part|each]] is offered to the [[whole]].[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_12#12:7._THE_PART_AND_THE_WHOLE]  There are the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_114#114:6._THE_MASTER_SERAPHIM_OF_PLANETARY_SUPERVISION corps of angels] who are specifically [[attuned]] to these interworkings.

      

      

You have [[witnessed]] such [[interfaith]] groups in your religious [[circles]].  There are other such interconnections within your [[economic]] realms and your [[social]] realms as well.  Such [[coordinations]] are proving beneficial.  As [[humankind]] leaves its eras of tribal divisions and clan [[warfare]], even on the level of [[nations]], and begins to [[trust]] in interworking with one another, there will [[develop]] those connections with [[religion]], [[science]], [[economics]], and [[society]].  You will have an even higher [[co-creative]] [[structure]].  It will be another [[quantum]] leap in your [[ascent]] as a planet to [[light and life]].

You have [[witnessed]] such [[interfaith]] groups in your religious [[circles]].  There are other such interconnections within your [[economic]] realms and your [[social]] realms as well.  Such [[coordinations]] are proving beneficial.  As [[humankind]] leaves its eras of tribal divisions and clan [[warfare]], even on the level of [[nations]], and begins to [[trust]] in interworking with one another, there will [[develop]] those connections with [[religion]], [[science]], [[economics]], and [[society]].  You will have an even higher [[co-creative]] [[structure]].  It will be another [[quantum]] leap in your [[ascent]] as a planet to [[light and life]].

There will be those who will [[develop]] a religious [[structure]] out of even The [[Urantia Papers]], and there will be others who will miss the [[impact]] of its presentation by dismissing it as yet another [[book]] of [[words]], good in [[intent]], but less that of [[guidance]] and more that of mere suggestion.  They will weaken its impact upon themselves and will miss many great benefits that could be derived from [[comprehending]] the [[pattern]] revealed in its pages.  Let us continue.

There will be those who will [[develop]] a religious [[structure]] out of even The [[Urantia Papers]], and there will be others who will miss the [[impact]] of its presentation by dismissing it as yet another [[book]] of [[words]], good in [[intent]], but less that of [[guidance]] and more that of mere suggestion.  They will weaken its impact upon themselves and will miss many great benefits that could be derived from [[comprehending]] the [[pattern]] revealed in its pages.  Let us continue.

===='''''[[Urantia Movement]]'''''====

===='''''[[Urantia Movement]]'''''====

Philip:  The questioner seems to think that The [[Urantia Book]] is really becoming central to some sort of [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_92_-_Later_Evolution_of_Religion#92:3._THE_NATURE_OF_EVOLUTIONARY_RELIGION evolutionary religion].

Philip:  The questioner seems to think that The [[Urantia Book]] is really becoming central to some sort of [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_92_-_Later_Evolution_of_Religion#92:3._THE_NATURE_OF_EVOLUTIONARY_RELIGION evolutionary religion].

        

        

Question#7:  Would you care to characterize the [[type]] of [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_92_-_Later_Evolution_of_Religion#92:3._THE_NATURE_OF_EVOLUTIONARY_RELIGION evolutionary religion] it may be heading towards? Is this [[trend]] at all typical of what has been [[experienced]] in [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_92_-_Later_Evolution_of_Religion#92:4._THE_GIFT_OF_REVELATION other epochal revelations] elsewhere in similar [[planetary]] stages as to what [[Urantia]] is currently experiencing in its [[cultural]] [[development]]?

Question#7:  Would you care to characterize the [[type]] of [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_92_-_Later_Evolution_of_Religion#92:3._THE_NATURE_OF_EVOLUTIONARY_RELIGION evolutionary religion] it may be heading towards? Is this [[trend]] at all typical of what has been [[experienced]] in [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_92_-_Later_Evolution_of_Religion#92:4._THE_GIFT_OF_REVELATION other epochal revelations] elsewhere in similar [[planetary]] stages as to what [[Urantia]] is currently experiencing in its [[cultural]] [[development]]?

Monjoronson:  Indeed this evolutionary [[development]] of a [[revelation]] is repeating what has happened to [[revelations]] of the [[past]].  It is [[human]] [[nature]] that such developments occur.  This current presentation, The [[Urantia Papers]], while broad in its presentation regarding [[mankind]] and the [[planet]] and the [[universe]] in which the planet resides and the [[deity]] over this [[universe]] which has made all [[things]] [[possible]], has its own [[time]] [[limitations]] and locality constraints.  It will by such limitations end up being another step in the path to [[light and life]].  It will never be the all-said of what is to come and what is to be [[realized]].  And that is where developing it into a rigid [[doctrine]] will infuse [[error]] into the [[comprehension]] of its message.

Monjoronson:  Indeed this evolutionary [[development]] of a [[revelation]] is repeating what has happened to [[revelations]] of the [[past]].  It is [[human]] [[nature]] that such developments occur.  This current presentation, The [[Urantia Papers]], while broad in its presentation regarding [[mankind]] and the [[planet]] and the [[universe]] in which the planet resides and the [[deity]] over this [[universe]] which has made all [[things]] [[possible]], has its own [[time]] [[limitations]] and locality constraints.  It will by such limitations end up being another step in the path to [[light and life]].  It will never be the all-said of what is to come and what is to be [[realized]].  And that is where developing it into a rigid [[doctrine]] will infuse [[error]] into the [[comprehension]] of its message.

It entered your world in one [[language]], and many devout [[humans]] are [[translating]] it; it was not given already in many languages.  It entered your world in one [[culture]], and it is up to the [[individuals]] who [[embrace]] its message to re-culturalize it and present it around the world in forms apprehensible by other peoples.  This is a [[natural]] [[evolution]], perhaps better said, a natural [[integration]] into the [[diversity]] of [[human beings]] and [[cultures]] on [[Urantia]].

It entered your world in one [[language]], and many devout [[humans]] are [[translating]] it; it was not given already in many languages.  It entered your world in one [[culture]], and it is up to the [[individuals]] who [[embrace]] its message to re-culturalize it and present it around the world in forms apprehensible by other peoples.  This is a [[natural]] [[evolution]], perhaps better said, a natural [[integration]] into the [[diversity]] of [[human beings]] and [[cultures]] on [[Urantia]].

        

        

Since human beings tend to [[form]] [[religion]] around [[revelation]], [[eventually]] even this the [[fifth epochal revelation]] will run its [[course]] and lose its [[immediate]] effectiveness as many of the others of centuries past have.  But worry not, for there will subsequently be bestowed upon your world the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_92_-_Later_Evolution_of_Religion#92:7._THE_FURTHER_EVOLUTION_OF_RELIGION next revelation of epochal significance].  In the meantime I [[encourage]] each of you to [[develop]] your [[channel]] of [[revelatory]] [[receptivity]], for under the umbrella of any epochal revelation are the many [[revelations]] to the [[individual]] [[souls]], to the [[philosophers]], the [[theologians]], the [[scientists]], and all.  This is the true vital [[power]] functioning in any epoch.  It will verify the [[patterns]] revealed, and it will [[enlighten]] the [[truth]] [[expressed]].

Since human beings tend to [[form]] [[religion]] around [[revelation]], [[eventually]] even this the [[fifth epochal revelation]] will run its [[course]] and lose its [[immediate]] effectiveness as many of the others of centuries past have.  But worry not, for there will subsequently be bestowed upon your world the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_92_-_Later_Evolution_of_Religion#92:7._THE_FURTHER_EVOLUTION_OF_RELIGION next revelation of epochal significance].  In the meantime I [[encourage]] each of you to [[develop]] your [[channel]] of [[revelatory]] [[receptivity]], for under the umbrella of any epochal revelation are the many [[revelations]] to the [[individual]] [[souls]], to the [[philosophers]], the [[theologians]], the [[scientists]], and all.  This is the true vital [[power]] functioning in any epoch.  It will verify the [[patterns]] revealed, and it will [[enlighten]] the [[truth]] [[expressed]].

        

        

Thank you again for your [[inquiry]].  

Thank you again for your [[inquiry]].  

Philip:  So, in [[essence]] it's not either/or, [[revelatory]] or [[evolutionary]]; it's more like it's [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_92_-_Later_Evolution_of_Religion#92:6._THE_COMPOSITE_RELIGIONS either/and].  Correct?

Philip:  So, in [[essence]] it's not either/or, [[revelatory]] or [[evolutionary]]; it's more like it's [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_92_-_Later_Evolution_of_Religion#92:6._THE_COMPOSITE_RELIGIONS either/and].  Correct?

Monjoronson:  Yes, indeed.  [[Revelation]] is a push, and [[evolution]] is the moving forward.  To some it may seem to lessen its special qualities, but functionally this must occur for it to integrate into the [[cultures]] of the world.

Monjoronson:  Yes, indeed.  [[Revelation]] is a push, and [[evolution]] is the moving forward.  To some it may seem to lessen its special qualities, but functionally this must occur for it to integrate into the [[cultures]] of the world.

Question #11:  Does the [[Correcting Time]] as Michael's umbrella of [[policies]] for the reformation of [[Urantia]] contain more than just the [[Fifth Epochal Revelation]] to do this?

Question #11:  Does the [[Correcting Time]] as Michael's umbrella of [[policies]] for the reformation of [[Urantia]] contain more than just the [[Fifth Epochal Revelation]] to do this?

Monjoronson:  Indeed it does, for Michael's [[purposes]] on Urantia entail every phase of [[planetary]] [[development]].  These epochal [[revelations]] are keyed to every [[epoch]].  In your [[text]] you have been told of the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_52 seven basic stages of planetary development].  There will be subsequent epochal [[revelations]] until [[Light and Life]] when the [[planet]] itself will stand as a [[revelation]] of the [[goodness]] of [[God]] and the [[culture]] will radiate the [[divine]] [[spirit]] in all ways.

Monjoronson:  Indeed it does, for Michael's [[purposes]] on Urantia entail every phase of [[planetary]] [[development]].  These epochal [[revelations]] are keyed to every [[epoch]].  In your [[text]] you have been told of the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_52 seven basic stages of planetary development].  There will be subsequent epochal [[revelations]] until [[Light and Life]] when the [[planet]] itself will stand as a [[revelation]] of the [[goodness]] of [[God]] and the [[culture]] will radiate the [[divine]] [[spirit]] in all ways.

      

      

While Michael partook of the [[force]] in [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_120 his bestowal], he has been ever watchful of all epochal [[transitions]] and the [[developments]] within each epoch.  I might add that he is doing so upon many worlds.  There are also such stages we may liken to epochal eras on a planet on every system and [[constellation]] under his [[guidance]].  Our [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_21#21:5._RELATION_OF_MASTER_SONS_TO_THE_UNIVERSE Sovereign Son] is quite busy and engaged in many [[facets]] of [[growth]] in [[Nebadon]].  His management is broad, but he is also very concerned and lovingly engaged in every stage on every world as it [[unfolds]].  

While Michael partook of the [[force]] in [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_120 his bestowal], he has been ever watchful of all epochal [[transitions]] and the [[developments]] within each epoch.  I might add that he is doing so upon many worlds.  There are also such stages we may liken to epochal eras on a planet on every system and [[constellation]] under his [[guidance]].  Our [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_21#21:5._RELATION_OF_MASTER_SONS_TO_THE_UNIVERSE Sovereign Son] is quite busy and engaged in many [[facets]] of [[growth]] in [[Nebadon]].  His management is broad, but he is also very concerned and lovingly engaged in every stage on every world as it [[unfolds]].  

Philip:  We have one final question but I think you covered a lot of that.  So that concludes this portion of the question and answer session.  As is our [[custom]], we would like to allow time for you to use for any [[purpose]] you might have.  Thank you.

Philip:  We have one final question but I think you covered a lot of that.  So that concludes this portion of the question and answer session.  As is our [[custom]], we would like to allow time for you to use for any [[purpose]] you might have.  Thank you.

===='''''[[Thought Adjusters]]''''', [[Presence]]''''', '''''[[Expression]]'''''====

===='''''[[Thought Adjusters]]''''', '''''[[Presence]]''''', '''''[[Expression]]'''''====

Monjoronson:  I will make a concluding [[statement]]. As we have spoken quite a bit today regarding the [[impact]] of an [[epochal revelation]] upon a world and what may subsequently occur as that [[revelation]] becomes [[integrated]] into [[cultures]], I want to [[encourage]] each of you to be [[trust]]ing of the [[divine]] [[presence]] that resides within, for this is the "true [[light]] which lights every man who comes into the world".[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gospel_of_John#Chapter]  It is the [[source]] of [[verification]] and validation of what you encounter in any epochal [[manifestation]] of [[spiritual]] [[revelation]].

Monjoronson:  I will make a concluding [[statement]]. As we have spoken quite a bit today regarding the [[impact]] of an [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_92#92:4._THE_GIFT_OF_REVELATION epochal revelation] upon a world and what may subsequently occur as that [[revelation]] becomes [[integrated]] into [[cultures]], I want to [[encourage]] each of you to be [[trust]]ing of the [[divine]] [[presence]] that resides within, for this is the "true [[light]] which lights every man who comes into the world".[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gospel_of_John#Chapter]  It is the [[source]] of [[verification]] and validation of what you encounter in any epochal [[manifestation]] of [[spiritual]] [[revelation]].

        

        

Just as one, centuries ago, could look upon Jesus and say, "Behold the man"[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_100#100:6._MARKS_OF_RELIGIOUS_LIVING],[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_185#185:6._PILATE.27S_LAST_APPEAL] [[expressing]] that within him the [[spirit]] moved and could recognize what was, who was, standing before him, so you must look upon the [[revelations]] that come in your era with such an inner [[recognition]].

Just as one, centuries ago, could look upon Jesus and say, "Behold the man"[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_100#100:6._MARKS_OF_RELIGIOUS_LIVING],[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_185#185:6._PILATE.27S_LAST_APPEAL] [[expressing]] that within him the [[spirit]] moved and could recognize what was, who was, standing before him, so you must look upon the [[revelations]] that come in your era with such an inner [[recognition]].

        

        

A [[pattern]] has been overlaid upon your world in which you may [[organize]] your [[thinking]], your [[understanding]], and your [[vision]] of the [[future]].  But you are each [[free]] to [[express]] your [[personality]].  Again I take you back to the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Urantia_Text_-_Contents#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus fourth epochal revelation] of [[Michael]] as [[Jesus]] and point to his [[apostles]], both the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_139 male corps] and the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_163#PAPER_163:_ORDINATION_OF_THE_SEVENTY_AT_MAGADAN women's corps] and the associated [[personalities]] with them.  Each one had its own [[perspective]].  When Jesus left the world each one undertook their own [[form]] of [[ministry]].  Some [[forms]] became the [[religion]] that followed him, and other forms went on to merely impact single peoples in a perhaps non-historic way.

A [[pattern]] has been overlaid upon your world in which you may [[organize]] your [[thinking]], your [[understanding]], and your [[vision]] of the [[future]].  But you are each [[free]] to [[express]] your [[personality]].  Again I take you back to the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Urantia_Text_-_Contents#Part_IV._The_Life_and_Teachings_of_Jesus fourth epochal revelation] of [[Michael]] as [[Jesus]] and point to his [[apostles]], both the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_139 male corps] and the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_163#PAPER_163:_ORDINATION_OF_THE_SEVENTY_AT_MAGADAN women's corps] and the associated [[personalities]] with them.  Each one had its own [[perspective]].  When Jesus left the world each one undertook their own [[form]] of [[ministry]].  Some [[forms]] became the [[religion]] that followed him, and other forms went on to merely impact single peoples in a perhaps non-historic way.

        

        

[[Trust]] the [[presence]] within.  Do what you can in your [[understanding]] of the [[revelation]] presented to your world.  Remember it’s presented to the world in [[whole]], in its entirety, and you are to adapt yourself to the aspects you can best [[express]] through your [[comprehension]] and through your life.  Others will grasp other aspects of the [[revelation]] and bring [[luminosity]] and magnification to those teachings.  The only [[form]] of [[revelation]] [[worth]] crystallizing is the form of revelation within yourself as it becomes your [[soul]].

[[Trust]] the [[presence]] within.  Do what you can in your [[understanding]] of the [[revelation]] presented to your world.  Remember it’s presented to the world in [[whole]], in its entirety, and you are to adapt yourself to the aspects you can best [[express]] through your [[comprehension]] and through your life.  Others will grasp other aspects of the [[revelation]] and bring [[luminosity]] and magnification to those teachings.  The only [[form]] of [[revelation]] [[worth]] crystallizing is the form of revelation within yourself as it becomes your [[soul]].