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Being somewhat of a [[Peace|peaceful]] [[person]], I struggled with the militaristic [[metaphor]] we discussed last week, regarding the teaching of [[history]].  It was one I could not ignore.  It [[forced]] me to look beyond the destructive [[nature]] of the militaristic [[mind]], and seek the [[characteristics]] of a [[strategic]] [[mind]].  And then I could see that when we engage our rightful mind in concert with a strategic mind, that it guides us in the right direction.  Could you speak to this, please?

Being somewhat of a [[Peace|peaceful]] [[person]], I struggled with the militaristic [[metaphor]] we discussed last week, regarding the teaching of [[history]].  It was one I could not ignore.  It [[forced]] me to look beyond the destructive [[nature]] of the militaristic [[mind]], and seek the [[characteristics]] of a [[strategic]] [[mind]].  And then I could see that when we engage our rightful mind in concert with a strategic mind, that it guides us in the right direction.  Could you speak to this, please?

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MONJORONSON:  Most certainly.  Let me delve a bit into your [[thinking]], or your estimation of the [http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military military] mind.  The militarism of your [[species]] is organized [[warfare]], and oftentimes it has been a [[necessity]] of [[survival]] for those tribes and clans and nations to have military [[leaders]].  Do not [[confuse]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MURDER murder]—the [[act]] of murder and the [[intention]] of murder—with the military mind.  A military mind is the [[organization]] of [[forces]] for aggression, which is contrary to [[our teachings]], but is supported by [[defense]] of [[individuals]] to [[survive]].  We wish you to [[appreciate]] the [[necessity]] in primitive [[cultures]], the [[presence]] of [[war]] [[machines]], of legions of soldiers to protect the nation and the culture and the [[ethos]] of their people.

MONJORONSON:  Most certainly.  Let me delve a bit into your [[thinking]], or your estimation of the [https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military military] mind.  The militarism of your [[species]] is organized [[warfare]], and oftentimes it has been a [[necessity]] of [[survival]] for those tribes and clans and nations to have military [[leaders]].  Do not [[confuse]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MURDER murder]—the [[act]] of murder and the [[intention]] of murder—with the military mind.  A military mind is the [[organization]] of [[forces]] for aggression, which is contrary to [[our teachings]], but is supported by [[defense]] of [[individuals]] to [[survive]].  We wish you to [[appreciate]] the [[necessity]] in primitive [[cultures]], the [[presence]] of [[war]] [[machines]], of legions of soldiers to protect the nation and the culture and the [[ethos]] of their people.

   

   

Had there not been those protective [[forces]], your [[Genetics|gene pool]] now would be much diminished and primitive, compared to what you have now.  All the people of [[intelligence]] and [[The Arts|arts]] would have long been gone, and you would be a brutal [[race]], even more so than you are.  I say these [[things]] for you to [[appreciate]] the [[difference]] between a murderous [[behavior]] in [[thinking]] and the [[necessity]] of [[war]], of armies and navies to protect the homeland.  In no way do we condone intentional [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MURDER murder], or the intentional invasion of innocent nations and the destruction of [[cultures]].  This is contrary to all the teachings that we provide to your world.  Having said that, yes, there is great [[necessity]] to appreciate the [[strategic]] importance of the [[work]] that I do.  Please refresh me with your question, as this one has lost his way.  (Laughter.)

Had there not been those protective [[forces]], your [[Genetics|gene pool]] now would be much diminished and primitive, compared to what you have now.  All the people of [[intelligence]] and [[The Arts|arts]] would have long been gone, and you would be a brutal [[race]], even more so than you are.  I say these [[things]] for you to [[appreciate]] the [[difference]] between a murderous [[behavior]] in [[thinking]] and the [[necessity]] of [[war]], of armies and navies to protect the homeland.  In no way do we condone intentional [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MURDER murder], or the intentional invasion of innocent nations and the destruction of [[cultures]].  This is contrary to all the teachings that we provide to your world.  Having said that, yes, there is great [[necessity]] to appreciate the [[strategic]] importance of the [[work]] that I do.  Please refresh me with your question, as this one has lost his way.  (Laughter.)

   

   

*The characteristics of the strategic mind

*The characteristics of the strategic mind

Vicki:  Thank you, MONJORONSON, and what you are engaging us in when you ask us to become involved in mapping a sustainable future is strategic thinking that is in [[essence]] strategic planning.  Is that correct?

Vicki:  Thank you, MONJORONSON, and what you are engaging us in when you ask us to become involved in mapping a sustainable future is strategic thinking that is in [[essence]] strategic planning.  Is that correct?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Most definitely.  The [[Most Highs]] operate on the strategic level all the time.  They operate in the “affairs of mankind,”[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Book_of_Daniel#Chapter_4] [[meaning]] that they operate in the venue of global [[governments]], national governments, of huge planning commissions, and so on.  They [[work]] with those [[individuals]] who can have an [[affect]] upon the outcome of large [[movements]] of [[humanity]]’s [[thinking]] and [[culture]].  The strategist truly who lays out the grand plans for the [[healing]] of your world—that was Christ [[Michael]].  Christ Michael simply did not sit in [[Salvington]] and say to those below him in the [[hierarchy]], “Heal this”—he simply did not!  He was there with the [[Most Highs]], with those in [[Uversa]], and those in [[Edentia]] and [[Norlatiadek]].  He had all of those on board, [[sharing]] his [[thoughts]], his plans, his [[desires]], asking for contribution.  

MONJORONSON:  Most definitely.  The [[Most Highs]] operate on the strategic level all the time.  They operate in the “affairs of mankind,”[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Book_of_Daniel#Chapter_4] [[meaning]] that they operate in the venue of global [[governments]], national governments, of huge planning commissions, and so on.  They [[work]] with those [[individuals]] who can have an [[affect]] upon the outcome of large [[movements]] of [[humanity]]’s [[thinking]] and [[culture]].  The strategist truly who lays out the grand plans for the [[healing]] of your world—that was Christ [[Michael]].  Christ Michael simply did not sit in [[Salvington]] and say to those below him in the [[hierarchy]], “Heal this”—he simply did not!  He was there with the [[Most Highs]], with those in [[Uversa]], and those in [[Edentia]] and [[Norlatiadek]].  He had all of those on board, [[sharing]] his [[thoughts]], his plans, his [[desires]], asking for contribution.  

   

   

The workings of managing a [[local universe]] are not much [[different]] than a very beneficent [[administration]] of a global [[government]] or corporation.  It requires [[coordination]], [[personal]] contact, joining of [[minds]], seeking those [[opinions]] which are differing, and mapping out, as you say, alternatives to a [[course]] of [[action]], as the [[reality]] in these four [[dimensions]] of your world begin to unfold.  In this grand strategy of [[healing]] the [[planets]] that were in [[Isolation|quarantine]], particularly in the most difficult planets—this and two others—it requires a nimble manager and tactician to [[work]] with [[events]] as they [[unfold]].  The [[human]] [[species]] of [[Urantia]] is wildly unpredictable and self-serving, even in the face of [[logical]] and [[rational]] outcomes, which one would [[choose]].  It would seem that many times [[leaders]] and nations of your world would rather shoot themselves in the foot than to say, “yes” to their [[opposition]].  So we have a [[difficult]] time moving ahead, as there is so many undercurrents and eddies in the [[good]] [[flow]] of the working order of [[administration]] on your world.  

The workings of managing a [[local universe]] are not much [[different]] than a very beneficent [[administration]] of a global [[government]] or corporation.  It requires [[coordination]], [[personal]] contact, joining of [[minds]], seeking those [[opinions]] which are differing, and mapping out, as you say, alternatives to a [[course]] of [[action]], as the [[reality]] in these four [[dimensions]] of your world begin to unfold.  In this grand strategy of [[healing]] the [[planets]] that were in [[Isolation|quarantine]], particularly in the most difficult planets—this and two others—it requires a nimble manager and tactician to [[work]] with [[events]] as they [[unfold]].  The [[human]] [[species]] of [[Urantia]] is wildly unpredictable and self-serving, even in the face of [[logical]] and [[rational]] outcomes, which one would [[choose]].  It would seem that many times [[leaders]] and nations of your world would rather shoot themselves in the foot than to say, “yes” to their [[opposition]].  So we have a [[difficult]] time moving ahead, as there is so many undercurrents and eddies in the [[good]] [[flow]] of the working order of [[administration]] on your world.  

*Right-mindedness

*Right-mindedness

   

   

Vicki:  Yes, they do, and we [[appreciate]] the [[insight]].  One thing it [[touched]] upon for me was the piece that you [[shared]] with a [[group]] of us, in our group [[prayer]], and that is the idea of “right-mindedness”.  In order for us to become [[effective]], [[co-creative]] [[partners]] in this [[process]], we not only have to engage in [[strategic]] [[thinking]] and strategic planning, but we have to do it with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_mindfulness#Right_mindfulness right-mindedness].  So I’m wondering if maybe you could help us in describing what you mean as “[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_mindfulness#Right_mindfulness right-mindedness]?”

Vicki:  Yes, they do, and we [[appreciate]] the [[insight]].  One thing it [[touched]] upon for me was the piece that you [[shared]] with a [[group]] of us, in our group [[prayer]], and that is the idea of “right-mindedness”.  In order for us to become [[effective]], [[co-creative]] [[partners]] in this [[process]], we not only have to engage in [[strategic]] [[thinking]] and strategic planning, but we have to do it with [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_mindfulness#Right_mindfulness right-mindedness].  So I’m wondering if maybe you could help us in describing what you mean as “[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_mindfulness#Right_mindfulness right-mindedness]?”

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Most certainly.  As you can see, we are [[growing]] you into the very breadth and depth of your [[personality]], by asking you to think [[strategically]], while as well, at the same time, [[thinking]] “rightfully.”  [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_mindfulness#Right_mindfulness Right thinking] is [[essential]] in the greatest and grandest [[developments]] of the [[universe]].  The [[ascendant career]] begins by right thinking, by being [[conscious]] of what you are [[thinking]], and then [[choosing]] to [[act]] on that.  Right thinking is [[observing]] your life; it is taking the observer position of your life.  [[Mortal]] [[progress]] then falls ahead rapidly, when you begin to [[observe]] yourself thinking, seeing [[choices]], making decisions and [[acting]] on them.  When you are not observing yourself in your [[thinking]], to make those [[choices]], you are simply reacting and oftentimes it is hit or miss, whether your choosing follows along right thinking or not.  You have a much higher [[probability]] of moving ahead in your [[spiritual]] [[ascendant career]] rapidly, when you are the [[observer]] of yourself.  

MONJORONSON:  Most certainly.  As you can see, we are [[growing]] you into the very breadth and depth of your [[personality]], by asking you to think [[strategically]], while as well, at the same time, [[thinking]] “rightfully.”  [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_mindfulness#Right_mindfulness Right thinking] is [[essential]] in the greatest and grandest [[developments]] of the [[universe]].  The [[ascendant career]] begins by right thinking, by being [[conscious]] of what you are [[thinking]], and then [[choosing]] to [[act]] on that.  Right thinking is [[observing]] your life; it is taking the observer position of your life.  [[Mortal]] [[progress]] then falls ahead rapidly, when you begin to [[observe]] yourself thinking, seeing [[choices]], making decisions and [[acting]] on them.  When you are not observing yourself in your [[thinking]], to make those [[choices]], you are simply reacting and oftentimes it is hit or miss, whether your choosing follows along right thinking or not.  You have a much higher [[probability]] of moving ahead in your [[spiritual]] [[ascendant career]] rapidly, when you are the [[observer]] of yourself.  

   

   

This is a hugely important [[process]] for bringing your self consciously, [[intentionally]], into the [[magnificence]] of your [[relationship]] with your [[Thought Adjuster]].  This is [[essential]] to your [[progress]].  [[Fusion]] will come much more rapidly when you are the [[observer]] of yourself; this is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_mindfulness#Right_mindfulness right thinking].  Right thinking is [[seeing]] the choices, one of which is always includes going against the [[will of God]], but you see this as not a desirable [[option]] in your [[behavior]].  You see options as hurting your fellow [[brothers and sisters]], but these options are as well not desirable options.  You see the option of hurting yourself, being selfish, being egoistic, seeing yourself of greater [[value]] than other people and acting upon that selfish [[orientation]].  In the right thinking mode, you would see this as an option, which is fully detrimental to your [[integration]] with yourself, with your [[Thought Adjuster]], with your fellow brothers and sisters, with your [[Guardian Angel]], with your [[Ascension Career|ascendant plan]].  

This is a hugely important [[process]] for bringing your self consciously, [[intentionally]], into the [[magnificence]] of your [[relationship]] with your [[Thought Adjuster]].  This is [[essential]] to your [[progress]].  [[Fusion]] will come much more rapidly when you are the [[observer]] of yourself; this is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_mindfulness#Right_mindfulness right thinking].  Right thinking is [[seeing]] the choices, one of which is always includes going against the [[will of God]], but you see this as not a desirable [[option]] in your [[behavior]].  You see options as hurting your fellow [[brothers and sisters]], but these options are as well not desirable options.  You see the option of hurting yourself, being selfish, being egoistic, seeing yourself of greater [[value]] than other people and acting upon that selfish [[orientation]].  In the right thinking mode, you would see this as an option, which is fully detrimental to your [[integration]] with yourself, with your [[Thought Adjuster]], with your fellow brothers and sisters, with your [[Guardian Angel]], with your [[Ascension Career|ascendant plan]].  

   

   

Right thinking is [[fundamental]] to [[spiritual]] [[progress]].  Right thinking, as well, allows the greatest [[opportunity]] for the expansion of your [[personality]], that [[wonderful]], wonderful gift from the [[Creator]] that was given to you, that [[unique]] identifier that you have and no one else has.  [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_mindfulness#Right_mindfulness Right thinking] identifies this [[personality]] very clearly to other people, as one who is [[whole]], one who is [[integrated]], one who is “[[one]]” with the “All,” “one” with [[God]], their [[Creator]].  I thank you for that question!  This right thinking is essential for all who wish to [[do God’s will]].

Right thinking is [[fundamental]] to [[spiritual]] [[progress]].  Right thinking, as well, allows the greatest [[opportunity]] for the expansion of your [[personality]], that [[wonderful]], wonderful gift from the [[Creator]] that was given to you, that [[unique]] identifier that you have and no one else has.  [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_mindfulness#Right_mindfulness Right thinking] identifies this [[personality]] very clearly to other people, as one who is [[whole]], one who is [[integrated]], one who is “[[one]]” with the “All,” “one” with [[God]], their [[Creator]].  I thank you for that question!  This right thinking is essential for all who wish to [[do God’s will]].

   

   

*“Don’t believe [[everything]] you think.”

*“Don’t believe [[everything]] you think.”

Vicki:  That brings to mind one other point or [[topic]] that [[relates]] to this and that is [[emotional intelligence]]. In the makeup of our [[material]] [[mind]], whenever [[information]] is received, we first [[react]] to it [[emotionally]]—it receives an emotional [[value]] first—and so if we are not in [[tune]] with our [[emotional intelligence]], oftentimes our [[thoughts]] stimulate harmful [[emotions]], such as [[fear]] and [[anger]], and then that leads us sometimes into poorly planned [[actions]].  Would you agree with this?

Vicki:  That brings to mind one other point or [[topic]] that [[relates]] to this and that is [[emotional intelligence]]. In the makeup of our [[material]] [[mind]], whenever [[information]] is received, we first [[react]] to it [[emotionally]]—it receives an emotional [[value]] first—and so if we are not in [[tune]] with our [[emotional intelligence]], oftentimes our [[thoughts]] stimulate harmful [[emotions]], such as [[fear]] and [[anger]], and then that leads us sometimes into poorly planned [[actions]].  Would you agree with this?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Most definitely.  The [[person]] who lives [[consciously]] and who is striving to have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_mindfulness#Right_mindfulness right thinking], receives input, whether it is [[violently]] given to them with great [[anger]], or with viciousness, they put it into what you would term a “cache [[memory]],” part of their [[thinking]], that they just receive it, and do not hold [[judgment]] or [[reaction]] to it.  This too, is part of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_Arts martial arts] mind—I bring this to you not for the [[violence]] of martial arts, but for the [[discipline]] that martial arts provides to the people who engage in them; it is the way to hold [[thinking]] in abeyance, while you [[analyze]] the situation.  The martial artist knows that [[reacting]] [[emotionally]] to something that comes at you is detrimental and that you will spend your [[energy]] reacting to it and that your efforts will be wasted, you will be devastated and you will be ruined.  Too many times—and we see this almost with tremendous [[frequency]]—with people in [[interaction]], is that they react to the [[words]] that are spoken to them, rather than assessing them and [[discerning]] them carefully.  All these go [[together]] for your [[peace]] of [[mind]].  It is [[essential]] that you stay [[balanced]], [[centered]] and grounded in your [[thinking]], so that you can live [[effectively]], [[peacefully]], [[integrated]] with the best elements of your [[society]].

MONJORONSON:  Most definitely.  The [[person]] who lives [[consciously]] and who is striving to have [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_mindfulness#Right_mindfulness right thinking], receives input, whether it is [[violently]] given to them with great [[anger]], or with viciousness, they put it into what you would term a “cache [[memory]],” part of their [[thinking]], that they just receive it, and do not hold [[judgment]] or [[reaction]] to it.  This too, is part of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_Arts martial arts] mind—I bring this to you not for the [[violence]] of martial arts, but for the [[discipline]] that martial arts provides to the people who engage in them; it is the way to hold [[thinking]] in abeyance, while you [[analyze]] the situation.  The martial artist knows that [[reacting]] [[emotionally]] to something that comes at you is detrimental and that you will spend your [[energy]] reacting to it and that your efforts will be wasted, you will be devastated and you will be ruined.  Too many times—and we see this almost with tremendous [[frequency]]—with people in [[interaction]], is that they react to the [[words]] that are spoken to them, rather than assessing them and [[discerning]] them carefully.  All these go [[together]] for your [[peace]] of [[mind]].  It is [[essential]] that you stay [[balanced]], [[centered]] and grounded in your [[thinking]], so that you can live [[effectively]], [[peacefully]], [[integrated]] with the best elements of your [[society]].

===='''''[[Death]]''''', '''''[[Hospice]]'''''====

===='''''[[Death]]''''', '''''[[Hospice]]'''''====

*The dying process

*The dying process

   

   

Vicki:  I think this will be tremendously helpful for us, as we put all of these pieces [[together]] about [[strategic]] [[thinking]] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ right-mindedness].  

Vicki:  I think this will be tremendously helpful for us, as we put all of these pieces [[together]] about [[strategic]] [[thinking]] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ right-mindedness].  

   

   

I’d like to move on to the [[topic]] I had planned for today.  I wish to engage you in a [[conversation]] about the “dying [[process]].”[http://books.google.com/books?id=ar2lqlxsHeQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=death+and+dying&hl=en&ei=jGG2S-XQAZXw9ASMy8DqAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CD8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false]  Many of us find a [[time]] in our lives when we generally accept [[death]], and often it’s when we’ve grown [[spiritually]] to the point where we’ve experienced the [[presence]] of [[God]] and [[believe]] in the [[afterlife]].  Indeed, some of us now can look at death as a “[[birth]]” [[experience]].  On the other hand, what many of us still seem to [[fear]] is the [[actual]] [[process]] of dying, or dissolution, due to the [[physical]] and [[emotional]] [[pain]] [[associated]] with it.  So that is the [[focus]] of my questions on this [[topic]].

I’d like to move on to the [[topic]] I had planned for today.  I wish to engage you in a [[conversation]] about the “dying [[process]].”[https://books.google.com/books?id=ar2lqlxsHeQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=death+and+dying&hl=en&ei=jGG2S-XQAZXw9ASMy8DqAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CD8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false]  Many of us find a [[time]] in our lives when we generally accept [[death]], and often it’s when we’ve grown [[spiritually]] to the point where we’ve experienced the [[presence]] of [[God]] and [[believe]] in the [[afterlife]].  Indeed, some of us now can look at death as a “[[birth]]” [[experience]].  On the other hand, what many of us still seem to [[fear]] is the [[actual]] [[process]] of dying, or dissolution, due to the [[physical]] and [[emotional]] [[pain]] [[associated]] with it.  So that is the [[focus]] of my questions on this [[topic]].

   

   

Much of what we know about dying has been gathered from our [[physical]] [[observations]].  From a [[spiritual]] [[standpoint]], though, what can you tell us about this process that will inform our care for dying [[individuals]]?

Much of what we know about dying has been gathered from our [[physical]] [[observations]].  From a [[spiritual]] [[standpoint]], though, what can you tell us about this process that will inform our care for dying [[individuals]]?

MONJORONSON:  You bring to the table, a very large subject.  (Laughter.)  I would begin by stating the saddest [[deaths]] of all:  And the saddest deaths of all are those where we see the individual dying within, where their [[spirit]], their esprit is dying, is going away.  They can be young; they may be old, but they have given up on life already, and they are hollow shells, [[automatons]] going about the [[business]] of the [[routine]] of daily life, yet on the inside they have no [[awareness]] of their [[thinking]]—great thinking or wrong thinking—they are simply going about the [[motions]].  These situations are extremely sad, where people lose [[hope]].  

MONJORONSON:  You bring to the table, a very large subject.  (Laughter.)  I would begin by stating the saddest [[deaths]] of all:  And the saddest deaths of all are those where we see the individual dying within, where their [[spirit]], their esprit is dying, is going away.  They can be young; they may be old, but they have given up on life already, and they are hollow shells, [[automatons]] going about the [[business]] of the [[routine]] of daily life, yet on the inside they have no [[awareness]] of their [[thinking]]—great thinking or wrong thinking—they are simply going about the [[motions]].  These situations are extremely sad, where people lose [[hope]].  

   

   

We do not [[understand]] how it is that people can totally reject the [[spiritual]] life, but on the other hand, we can see that it is done [[actively]], it is done in [[total]] violation of the [[God]]/[[personal]] [[relationship]].  There is actually some vitality to that, for when these [[individuals]] cross over and are on the [[mansion worlds]], they will see the wrongness of their [[thinking]], and either continue to adhere to that and become part of those who have vanished[http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_2#2:3._JUSTICE_AND_RIGHTEOUSNESS], as [though] they were never here, and there are those who will see this as an [[opportunity]] to begin anew, and do so with the same fervent, energized [[state]] of [[being]].  Those of you who have mental aberrations, of [[depression]], of latent psychoses—those with mental aberrations who are unable to manage their [[thinking]]—this is most sad; were the [[angels]] to cry, they would cry over this for sure.  

We do not [[understand]] how it is that people can totally reject the [[spiritual]] life, but on the other hand, we can see that it is done [[actively]], it is done in [[total]] violation of the [[God]]/[[personal]] [[relationship]].  There is actually some vitality to that, for when these [[individuals]] cross over and are on the [[mansion worlds]], they will see the wrongness of their [[thinking]], and either continue to adhere to that and become part of those who have vanished[https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_2#2:3._JUSTICE_AND_RIGHTEOUSNESS], as [though] they were never here, and there are those who will see this as an [[opportunity]] to begin anew, and do so with the same fervent, energized [[state]] of [[being]].  Those of you who have mental aberrations, of [[depression]], of latent psychoses—those with mental aberrations who are unable to manage their [[thinking]]—this is most sad; were the [[angels]] to cry, they would cry over this for sure.  

   

   

But you speak about the dissolution of [[death]], and so the next saddest [[state]] that I will gauge is the premature passing of one who has so much [[potential]] to know [[God]] in this lifetime, whether they are in their infancy, their childhood, pre-adolescence, adolescence, early adulthood, adulthood, or the elderly.  It is very sad to see those people with grand [[minds]], who have the [[capacity]] to know God [[intimately]], and who do not, who pass prematurely from this acquaintanceship, from acknowledging this [[wonderful]] [[eternal]] handshake, between [[God]] within them, and their own [[conscious]] mind.  These lives are not wasted, and do not mourn about that, for there is an avenue for [[growth]] that is always granted to those who cross over, who wish to continue.  This truly is a very [[conscious]] [[existential]] [[decision]] that is made by everyone who has a sentient [[mind]], who is invested by [[God]], the [[Thought Adjuster]][http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_40#40:7._FATHER-FUSED_MORTALS], or [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_40#40:8._SON-FUSED_MORTALS Son Spirit], or the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_40#40:9._SPIRIT-FUSED_MORTALS Infinite Spirit].  

But you speak about the dissolution of [[death]], and so the next saddest [[state]] that I will gauge is the premature passing of one who has so much [[potential]] to know [[God]] in this lifetime, whether they are in their infancy, their childhood, pre-adolescence, adolescence, early adulthood, adulthood, or the elderly.  It is very sad to see those people with grand [[minds]], who have the [[capacity]] to know God [[intimately]], and who do not, who pass prematurely from this acquaintanceship, from acknowledging this [[wonderful]] [[eternal]] handshake, between [[God]] within them, and their own [[conscious]] mind.  These lives are not wasted, and do not mourn about that, for there is an avenue for [[growth]] that is always granted to those who cross over, who wish to continue.  This truly is a very [[conscious]] [[existential]] [[decision]] that is made by everyone who has a sentient [[mind]], who is invested by [[God]], the [[Thought Adjuster]][https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_40#40:7._FATHER-FUSED_MORTALS], or [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_40#40:8._SON-FUSED_MORTALS Son Spirit], or the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_40#40:9._SPIRIT-FUSED_MORTALS Infinite Spirit].  

   

   

*[[Preparation]] for the approach of [[death]]

*[[Preparation]] for the approach of [[death]]

Dying peacefully begins by seeing your [[body]] at the end of an era; the [[materialism]] of your [[body]] is just clothing for the [[spirit]]; it is not who you truly are; it is given to you temporarily to help you engage the [[experiences]] of this world.  Your attachment to the [[materiality]] of this world impedes your easy [[progress]] across.  Many would cross earlier and more easily from life to dying, had they truly [[understood]] that their attachment to the [[materialism]] of life, to their [[body]], hinders their crossing easily.  When you begin to see yourself as an [[ascendant]] [[spirit]], who is a captive in a [[body]], you will engage this [[continuum]] more easily and approach the [[event]] of [[death]] as something which is transitory and temporary.

Dying peacefully begins by seeing your [[body]] at the end of an era; the [[materialism]] of your [[body]] is just clothing for the [[spirit]]; it is not who you truly are; it is given to you temporarily to help you engage the [[experiences]] of this world.  Your attachment to the [[materiality]] of this world impedes your easy [[progress]] across.  Many would cross earlier and more easily from life to dying, had they truly [[understood]] that their attachment to the [[materialism]] of life, to their [[body]], hinders their crossing easily.  When you begin to see yourself as an [[ascendant]] [[spirit]], who is a captive in a [[body]], you will engage this [[continuum]] more easily and approach the [[event]] of [[death]] as something which is transitory and temporary.

   

   

You go to bed at night and you never [[think]] about losing [[consciousness]] as frightening; you in [[fact]], seek it to ease the [[pains]] of the day, to overcome the [[emotional]] distresses of life.  You go to [[sleep]] in [[peace]].  What did [http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shakespeare Shakespeare] say?  Something like, “Sleep, sleep knits up the raveled sleeve of care, of the day,”[http://www.quoteworld.org/quotes/12778] and so it does, and if you were to see your life as a [[continuum]] of [[spirit]], you would engage your [[physical]] [[death]] as easily as you engage going to sleep at night; you would look forward to it; you would be [[happy]] about it; you would be [[joyous]]; you would celebrate and ask your [[friends]] to [[share]] in that [[event]] with you.  We ask you, dear ones, to teach others about [[death]] and dying, that it is [[natural]], but that it is needful to be delayed as [[rationally]] useful, so that you gain the full [[spectrum]] of [[experiences]] as a living [[being]].  

You go to bed at night and you never [[think]] about losing [[consciousness]] as frightening; you in [[fact]], seek it to ease the [[pains]] of the day, to overcome the [[emotional]] distresses of life.  You go to [[sleep]] in [[peace]].  What did [https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shakespeare Shakespeare] say?  Something like, “Sleep, sleep knits up the raveled sleeve of care, of the day,”[https://www.quoteworld.org/quotes/12778] and so it does, and if you were to see your life as a [[continuum]] of [[spirit]], you would engage your [[physical]] [[death]] as easily as you engage going to sleep at night; you would look forward to it; you would be [[happy]] about it; you would be [[joyous]]; you would celebrate and ask your [[friends]] to [[share]] in that [[event]] with you.  We ask you, dear ones, to teach others about [[death]] and dying, that it is [[natural]], but that it is needful to be delayed as [[rationally]] useful, so that you gain the full [[spectrum]] of [[experiences]] as a living [[being]].  

   

   

This lifetime truly is what you will live on and feast on in your [[Mansion Worlds|morontial life]], as you gain new [[experiences]].  You will see this brief [[archive]] of [[history]] of your [[soul]]’s [[growth]] and [[development]] as a [[resource]] for [[interpreting]] your new experiences and for re-interpreting the experiences you had during your lifetime.  This is all there is!  This is what you get; this is the [[material]] feast of your [[eternal]] [[career]].  You have the [[opportunity]] to fill it to the greatest extent.  That is why we ask you to live life [[consciously]], [[joyously]], fully, deeply!  Drink in the [[events]] of your life with great richness.  Your resentments, your hostilities, your hatreds prevent you from moving ahead [[peacefully]], gradually, into death.  Your [[negative]] [[emotions]] strive to keep you locked into your [[body]] and you have less to use in the [[afterlife]] for your lessons that come along then.

This lifetime truly is what you will live on and feast on in your [[Mansion Worlds|morontial life]], as you gain new [[experiences]].  You will see this brief [[archive]] of [[history]] of your [[soul]]’s [[growth]] and [[development]] as a [[resource]] for [[interpreting]] your new experiences and for re-interpreting the experiences you had during your lifetime.  This is all there is!  This is what you get; this is the [[material]] feast of your [[eternal]] [[career]].  You have the [[opportunity]] to fill it to the greatest extent.  That is why we ask you to live life [[consciously]], [[joyously]], fully, deeply!  Drink in the [[events]] of your life with great richness.  Your resentments, your hostilities, your hatreds prevent you from moving ahead [[peacefully]], gradually, into death.  Your [[negative]] [[emotions]] strive to keep you locked into your [[body]] and you have less to use in the [[afterlife]] for your lessons that come along then.

Vicki:  I think we’ve addressed the [[psychological]] needs for the dying.  The one that is standing out for me now is helping people manage the ‘[[physical]] [[pain]] of dying.’  So I’m [[wondering]] when you talk about us detaching our [[spirit]], or [[communicating]] with their [[spirit]], in doing that, are we capable of helping them [[transcend]] [[physical]] [[pain]]?

Vicki:  I think we’ve addressed the [[psychological]] needs for the dying.  The one that is standing out for me now is helping people manage the ‘[[physical]] [[pain]] of dying.’  So I’m [[wondering]] when you talk about us detaching our [[spirit]], or [[communicating]] with their [[spirit]], in doing that, are we capable of helping them [[transcend]] [[physical]] [[pain]]?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes.  Too often, the medications that are given deaden the [[pain]] [[process]], from the nerves to the [[brain]].  What would be much more advantageous is to [[assist]] the [[individual]] to engage a [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Transpersonal transpersonal experience] of an altered [[state]] of [[consciousness]], rather than the dead-numb of a [[brain]] that has been dosed with heroin or morphine to such a great extent.  The [[person]] then is virtually [[breathing]], but dead as a [[spirit]].  The [[option]] of assisting the individual in having an altered state of [[consciousness]], a [[spiritual]] [[experience]], assists them to bypass the [[pain]] episode and to engage the higher realms of [[spirit]] and the [[body]] and the [[mind]].  This would be new territory for your [[medical]] [[professionals]]; it is almost [[shamanistic]] in many ways, but it is helpful to the [[mind]] to grasp the altered states of [[consciousness]] that are precursors to [[death]] and the cessation of [[mind]] [[activity]], and avail themselves to the ascendance of the [[spirit]] towards its [[career]] in the [[mansion worlds]].

MONJORONSON:  Yes.  Too often, the medications that are given deaden the [[pain]] [[process]], from the nerves to the [[brain]].  What would be much more advantageous is to [[assist]] the [[individual]] to engage a [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Transpersonal transpersonal experience] of an altered [[state]] of [[consciousness]], rather than the dead-numb of a [[brain]] that has been dosed with heroin or morphine to such a great extent.  The [[person]] then is virtually [[breathing]], but dead as a [[spirit]].  The [[option]] of assisting the individual in having an altered state of [[consciousness]], a [[spiritual]] [[experience]], assists them to bypass the [[pain]] episode and to engage the higher realms of [[spirit]] and the [[body]] and the [[mind]].  This would be new territory for your [[medical]] [[professionals]]; it is almost [[shamanistic]] in many ways, but it is helpful to the [[mind]] to grasp the altered states of [[consciousness]] that are precursors to [[death]] and the cessation of [[mind]] [[activity]], and avail themselves to the ascendance of the [[spirit]] towards its [[career]] in the [[mansion worlds]].

   

   

Vicki:  I believe that message was hugely important to us.  And so now, I’d like to engage you in some [[conversation]] about how other [[cultures]] view the dying [[process]] and its [[practical]] use for all of us.  This whole [[topic]] is a delicate one, because there is also a tremendous variation in [[cultures]], as to their [[beliefs]], [[rituals]] and [[practices]].  Some [[rituals]] and [[beliefs]], from Eastern civilizations, are now beginning to merge into the practices of Western cultures and they may offer us quite a bit of [[insight]].  I want to talk about one in particular.

Vicki:  I believe that message was hugely important to us.  And so now, I’d like to engage you in some [[conversation]] about how other [[cultures]] view the dying [[process]] and its [[practical]] use for all of us.  This whole [[topic]] is a delicate one, because there is also a tremendous variation in [[cultures]], as to their [[beliefs]], [[rituals]] and [[practices]].  Some [[rituals]] and [[beliefs]], from Eastern civilizations, are now beginning to merge into the practices of Western cultures and they may offer us quite a bit of [[insight]].  I want to talk about one in particular.

*Eastern practices of the death process

*Eastern practices of the death process

   

   

According to the [http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_Buddhism Tibetan] [[beliefs]], the dissolution or dying [[process]] [[encompasses]] eight stages, related to and in the order of four elements—earth, water, fire and air.  At the beginning with the earth element, each stage marks a point in which those related [[systems]] or bodily [[materials]] break down.  And also, along with this, it is believed that the dying individual—experiences certain [[mental]] and [[spiritual]] [[visualizations]] that coincide with these stages.  Is there validity to these [[assumptions]]?

According to the [https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_Buddhism Tibetan] [[beliefs]], the dissolution or dying [[process]] [[encompasses]] eight stages, related to and in the order of four elements—earth, water, fire and air.  At the beginning with the earth element, each stage marks a point in which those related [[systems]] or bodily [[materials]] break down.  And also, along with this, it is believed that the dying individual—experiences certain [[mental]] and [[spiritual]] [[visualizations]] that coincide with these stages.  Is there validity to these [[assumptions]]?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes, to a [[degree]].  In those [[religions]] and those [[cultures]], the [[study]] of [[death]] has been most extensive, rather than it being avoided as is typical of [http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_civilization Western civilization].  The [[reading]] and [[studying]] of [[death]] [[prepares]] each [[individual]] for that [[event]].  It gives them a schema, it gives them a format, a schedule, an [[agenda]] for the passage of their own life.  It is a way of them [[reflecting]] in [[real time]], upon the [[process]] of dying.  This is a great aid to the [[individual]] who is dying; they already have an [[agenda]] or schedule that they are aware of, that they know they will [[experience]] as they proceed closer and closer to the [[separation]] of their [[spirit]] from their [[body]].  This is very helpful to the [[individual]].  It is as helpful as well to those who remain.  

MONJORONSON:  Yes, to a [[degree]].  In those [[religions]] and those [[cultures]], the [[study]] of [[death]] has been most extensive, rather than it being avoided as is typical of [https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_civilization Western civilization].  The [[reading]] and [[studying]] of [[death]] [[prepares]] each [[individual]] for that [[event]].  It gives them a schema, it gives them a format, a schedule, an [[agenda]] for the passage of their own life.  It is a way of them [[reflecting]] in [[real time]], upon the [[process]] of dying.  This is a great aid to the [[individual]] who is dying; they already have an [[agenda]] or schedule that they are aware of, that they know they will [[experience]] as they proceed closer and closer to the [[separation]] of their [[spirit]] from their [[body]].  This is very helpful to the [[individual]].  It is as helpful as well to those who remain.  

   

   

*The reconciliation of death and dying

*The reconciliation of death and dying

*Speaking to the spirit

*Speaking to the spirit

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes, it is not the [[mind]] that is working anymore; you are actually speaking to the [[spirit]] [[entity]] of that [[person]], as an [[intelligent]] [[being]].  You often think of [[mind]] as having [[intelligence]]; actually, the [[brain]] has intelligence, it has the [[mind]], and it is just the [http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_System operating system].  Once the mind shuts down, then the [[body]] no longer [[functions]], and the mind no longer [[responds]] to you.  What you are doing is speaking to this [[spirit]], the spirit of that [[person]], as an [[intelligent]] [[entity]]: they have [[consciousness]], and you have consciousness, and you can speak to that [[entity]] of that deceased [[person]], [[intelligently]], and offer them suggestions.  Remember that the spirit that has become disembodied is oftentimes [[confused]].  It is important that the guardian, be there with them, so that they can [[guide]] the spirit onward to the [[mansion worlds]], through the tunnel of [[light]], as you describe it.  Once in the tunnel, they are on their way.  It is that those [[moments]] from reaching out by their guardian to the [[spirit]] who will guide them to the light, that you would provide, if the [[person]] is not a believing [[individual]] of [[God]] or [[guardian angels]].

MONJORONSON:  Yes, it is not the [[mind]] that is working anymore; you are actually speaking to the [[spirit]] [[entity]] of that [[person]], as an [[intelligent]] [[being]].  You often think of [[mind]] as having [[intelligence]]; actually, the [[brain]] has intelligence, it has the [[mind]], and it is just the [https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_System operating system].  Once the mind shuts down, then the [[body]] no longer [[functions]], and the mind no longer [[responds]] to you.  What you are doing is speaking to this [[spirit]], the spirit of that [[person]], as an [[intelligent]] [[entity]]: they have [[consciousness]], and you have consciousness, and you can speak to that [[entity]] of that deceased [[person]], [[intelligently]], and offer them suggestions.  Remember that the spirit that has become disembodied is oftentimes [[confused]].  It is important that the guardian, be there with them, so that they can [[guide]] the spirit onward to the [[mansion worlds]], through the tunnel of [[light]], as you describe it.  Once in the tunnel, they are on their way.  It is that those [[moments]] from reaching out by their guardian to the [[spirit]] who will guide them to the light, that you would provide, if the [[person]] is not a believing [[individual]] of [[God]] or [[guardian angels]].

   

   

*[[Touch]] during the dying [[process]]

*[[Touch]] during the dying [[process]]

*Spiritual chemistry

*Spiritual chemistry

   

   

Vicki:  MONJORONSON, this is a question both about living and dying.  It’s about [[spiritual]] [[experience]] and our [[chemistry]].  Our [[scientists]] believe that we have isolated a chemical in our [http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_Gland pineal glands] that increases in amount during an [[Out of Body Experience|out of body or near death experience]].  This implies that there may be other [[chemical]] [[changes]] taking place during the [[processes]] of both our living and dying that stimulate [[spiritual]] [[experience]].  Is that a correct [[assumption]]?

Vicki:  MONJORONSON, this is a question both about living and dying.  It’s about [[spiritual]] [[experience]] and our [[chemistry]].  Our [[scientists]] believe that we have isolated a chemical in our [https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_Gland pineal glands] that increases in amount during an [[Out of Body Experience|out of body or near death experience]].  This implies that there may be other [[chemical]] [[changes]] taking place during the [[processes]] of both our living and dying that stimulate [[spiritual]] [[experience]].  Is that a correct [[assumption]]?

   

   

MONJORONSON:  Yes, it is.

MONJORONSON:  Yes, it is.

Vicki:  Can you tell us anything more about this [[chemistry]] that may stimulate [[spiritual]] [[experience]].

Vicki:  Can you tell us anything more about this [[chemistry]] that may stimulate [[spiritual]] [[experience]].

   

   

MONJORONSON:  I alluded to that in my answer about using [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoactive_drugs psychoactive drugs] to [[assist]] a [[person]] in having an [[Out of Body Experience|out of body, transpersonal]] [[experience]].  It is of great [[assistance]] to the individual to [[process]] their dying as a [[spiritual]] [[experience]].  Most [[individuals]] of your [[culture]] do not see dying as a [[spiritual]] [[experience]] but as a regretful, [[physical]] leaving of the [[pleasures]] that they had earlier in life.  The altered [[state]] of [[consciousness]] assists in this passage being [[interpreted]] as a spiritual experience.  It allows the gates between [[consciousness]] and [[spiritual]] [[experience]] to be withdrawn.  It is much like a drawbridge to a castle; that you are in the castle of your [[mind]], the drawbridge is put down, and you can cross it and enter the grand vistas of the [[horizon]] of the [[spirit]] realm easily and [[deliberately]].  Yes, there are many [[chemical]] [[processes]] which are undergoing in the [[death]] experience.  However, it is only in the [[conscious]] traverse of this [[space]] that these chemicals usually develop.  You are seeing [[evidence]] of that in out of body, near death experiences, those individuals who are having transpersonal experiences in their living [[moments]] that have been [[analyzed]] by your [[scientists]].  This can be assisted as I said, through the [[application]] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoactive_drugs psychoactive drugs].  Not much is needed, as the [[mind]] is usually open and [[receptive]] to this, and can be done most easily.

MONJORONSON:  I alluded to that in my answer about using [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoactive_drugs psychoactive drugs] to [[assist]] a [[person]] in having an [[Out of Body Experience|out of body, transpersonal]] [[experience]].  It is of great [[assistance]] to the individual to [[process]] their dying as a [[spiritual]] [[experience]].  Most [[individuals]] of your [[culture]] do not see dying as a [[spiritual]] [[experience]] but as a regretful, [[physical]] leaving of the [[pleasures]] that they had earlier in life.  The altered [[state]] of [[consciousness]] assists in this passage being [[interpreted]] as a spiritual experience.  It allows the gates between [[consciousness]] and [[spiritual]] [[experience]] to be withdrawn.  It is much like a drawbridge to a castle; that you are in the castle of your [[mind]], the drawbridge is put down, and you can cross it and enter the grand vistas of the [[horizon]] of the [[spirit]] realm easily and [[deliberately]].  Yes, there are many [[chemical]] [[processes]] which are undergoing in the [[death]] experience.  However, it is only in the [[conscious]] traverse of this [[space]] that these chemicals usually develop.  You are seeing [[evidence]] of that in out of body, near death experiences, those individuals who are having transpersonal experiences in their living [[moments]] that have been [[analyzed]] by your [[scientists]].  This can be assisted as I said, through the [[application]] of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoactive_drugs psychoactive drugs].  Not much is needed, as the [[mind]] is usually open and [[receptive]] to this, and can be done most easily.

   

   

Vicki:  Thank you.  I’ll have to think about this before I address it again.  

Vicki:  Thank you.  I’ll have to think about this before I address it again.  

[Daniel: (Also laughing now) It’s him!]

[Daniel: (Also laughing now) It’s him!]

   

   

This is MONJORONSON:  I [[thought]] you would never get around to asking this question!  Yes, this is a most interesting [[topic]], and as one that has puzzled many, many people for centuries.  What you are [[experiencing]] is [[fundamentally]] the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_107#107:2._CLASSIFICATION_OF_ADJUSTERS prior experiences] of your [[Thought Adjuster]].  It has tremendous [[access]] to the annals, the recordings of other [[personalities]] that it has experienced, both directly and vicariously.  Thought Adjusters are most capable, and are vastly underestimated in their [[capacity]] to [[assist]] you to [[grow]], to [[learn]], to bypass many of the [[difficult]] lessons of life, if you would only engage your [[Thought Adjuster]] much more [[consciously]], deliberately and [[intentionally]].

This is MONJORONSON:  I [[thought]] you would never get around to asking this question!  Yes, this is a most interesting [[topic]], and as one that has puzzled many, many people for centuries.  What you are [[experiencing]] is [[fundamentally]] the [https://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Paper_107#107:2._CLASSIFICATION_OF_ADJUSTERS prior experiences] of your [[Thought Adjuster]].  It has tremendous [[access]] to the annals, the recordings of other [[personalities]] that it has experienced, both directly and vicariously.  Thought Adjusters are most capable, and are vastly underestimated in their [[capacity]] to [[assist]] you to [[grow]], to [[learn]], to bypass many of the [[difficult]] lessons of life, if you would only engage your [[Thought Adjuster]] much more [[consciously]], deliberately and [[intentionally]].

   

   

An “old soul” is one who has had many past experiences; one who recalls the [[wisdom]] and [[experience]] of a past life.

An “old soul” is one who has had many past experiences; one who recalls the [[wisdom]] and [[experience]] of a past life.