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The [[Magisterial Mission]] is much more a team [[effort]], by the [[union]] of those people who [are] evolved in their [[spirituality]]—if they choose to.  One needs to precede the other; there needs to be those spiritually infused and [[enthused]] [[individuals]], to participate in the work that we are doing.  The primary work of the [[Teaching Mission]] is to prepare [[individuals]] for greater expansion and [[service]].  If they choose to participate in the [[Magisterial Mission]], that is their [[choice]].  If they choose not to, there is nothing held against them—it is simply a matter of choice for one’s [[course]] in life.  We thoroughly [[respect]] that.  Once your decisions are made, they are inviolate to us.  Should you [[change]] your mind, you would be welcomed with open arms to participate in our [[work]] with us.
 
The [[Magisterial Mission]] is much more a team [[effort]], by the [[union]] of those people who [are] evolved in their [[spirituality]]—if they choose to.  One needs to precede the other; there needs to be those spiritually infused and [[enthused]] [[individuals]], to participate in the work that we are doing.  The primary work of the [[Teaching Mission]] is to prepare [[individuals]] for greater expansion and [[service]].  If they choose to participate in the [[Magisterial Mission]], that is their [[choice]].  If they choose not to, there is nothing held against them—it is simply a matter of choice for one’s [[course]] in life.  We thoroughly [[respect]] that.  Once your decisions are made, they are inviolate to us.  Should you [[change]] your mind, you would be welcomed with open arms to participate in our [[work]] with us.
 
*Was Michael here in 2008?
 
*Was Michael here in 2008?
MMc:  We have been told that [[Michael]] spent most of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008 2008] residing on [[Urantia]], to take care of a minor [[rebellion]] among the ranks of certain orders of celestials.  Do you or [[Michael]] often meet with organized [[resistance]] to your [[plans]]?
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MMc:  We have been told that [[Michael]] spent most of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008 2008] residing on [[Urantia]], to take care of a minor [[rebellion]] among the ranks of certain orders of celestials.  Do you or [[Michael]] often meet with organized [[resistance]] to your [[plans]]?
    
MONJORONSON:  No, we do not.
 
MONJORONSON:  No, we do not.
 
                                                                                      
 
                                                                                      
MMc:  We have been told that in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010 2010], the [[Universal Father]] called a halt to further [[progress]] and closed down any more planning for the [[Correcting Time]] until all responsible could reassess with him, what [[Urantia]] had to do.  Has [[the Father]] taken direct [[control]] of the [[Correcting Time]] for [[Urantia]]?
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MMc:  We have been told that in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010 2010], the [[Universal Father]] called a halt to further [[progress]] and closed down any more planning for the [[Correcting Time]] until all responsible could reassess with him, what [[Urantia]] had to do.  Has [[the Father]] taken direct [[control]] of the [[Correcting Time]] for [[Urantia]]?
    
MONJORONSON:  No, he has not.
 
MONJORONSON:  No, he has not.
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MMc:  Was Lucifer able to keep mortals here after their death, against their will?
 
MMc:  Was Lucifer able to keep mortals here after their death, against their will?
 
   
 
   
MONJORONSON:  No.<Clip>
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MONJORONSON:  No.
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MMc:  Were Lucifer and Caligastia able to repersonalize those in the borderland so that they would be able to work for them?
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MONJORONSON:  No.
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MMc:  We have been told that the Magisterial Mission cannot proceed until all those in the borderlands have come into the light and been removed from Urantia in their entirety.  Is this correct?
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MONJORONSON:  This is not correct.
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MMc:  We have been told that “without removing these souls, it would be nearly impossible to recharge the grids.”  Is this correct?
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MONJORONSON:  This is not correct.
    
===='''''[[Circuits]]''''', '''''[[Collective Intelligence]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Circuits]]''''', '''''[[Collective Intelligence]]'''''====
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MMc:  Shall we continue?
 
MMc:  Shall we continue?
 
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*The reasons for seeking these clarifications
 
MONJORONSON:  Yes, this is hard work I know, for all of you.  Let us work through this so we can add clarity to the messages that others receive.  We want clarity for all our work; we want continuity, so that all parts are contiguous and congruent.  There will be times, as we are going through now, in the future, to do this again.  As mortals, we ask you to be very patient and tolerant and to be above all, discerning.  Discern what Christ Michael would be doing on your world at this time, were he present and could discuss this with you, and then you will discern more correctly.  Please proceed.
 
MONJORONSON:  Yes, this is hard work I know, for all of you.  Let us work through this so we can add clarity to the messages that others receive.  We want clarity for all our work; we want continuity, so that all parts are contiguous and congruent.  There will be times, as we are going through now, in the future, to do this again.  As mortals, we ask you to be very patient and tolerant and to be above all, discerning.  Discern what Christ Michael would be doing on your world at this time, were he present and could discuss this with you, and then you will discern more correctly.  Please proceed.
 
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*The lost sheep
 
MMc:  Has Christ Michael declared that none will be lost?  Has he declared that all former mortals of Urantia will go on to the mansion worlds, and from there they can make a decision on whether to accept eternal survival or not?
 
MMc:  Has Christ Michael declared that none will be lost?  Has he declared that all former mortals of Urantia will go on to the mansion worlds, and from there they can make a decision on whether to accept eternal survival or not?
    
MONJORONSON:  That is correct.  
 
MONJORONSON:  That is correct.  
 
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*What keeps the cleaned grid from being re-infected?
 
MMc:  In answer to a question about the grid, Malvantra said that the grid feeds off of the degradation, debasing and corrupted behavior from those stuck in lower consciousness.  If this is so, will the grid ever be cleaned?  It seems like there are plenty of [bad] behaviors to keep Lucifer’s old grid well stocked with energy, far into the future.  
 
MMc:  In answer to a question about the grid, Malvantra said that the grid feeds off of the degradation, debasing and corrupted behavior from those stuck in lower consciousness.  If this is so, will the grid ever be cleaned?  It seems like there are plenty of [bad] behaviors to keep Lucifer’s old grid well stocked with energy, far into the future.  
 
   
 
   
MONJORONSON:  We continue to tell you that this is not a grid energized by evil behavior or evil decisions, or evil attitudes.  The grid is of human consciousness; it is more like an archive that is the repository of the residue of all human consciousness, positive and negative.  The focus upon negative energy and negative beings is not an aspect that is important to the maintenance or to the cleaning of the grid of the human consciousness.  It will take conscious effort of light by humans and by us to clean the grid, clean the archive of human consciousness.  This archive of human consciousness—you call it the grid—is hundreds of thousands of years old, and as there are more people on your world, it is more capable—we are more capable—of cleaning the grid in much shorter time than it took to build it that way.  And in the future, this grid of human consciousness will be clear and accessible by every individual for right and perfect intentions.  It is accessible by anyone and has a powerful influence on everyone, whether they are aware of it or not.<Clip>
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MONJORONSON:  We continue to tell you that this is not a grid energized by evil behavior or evil decisions, or evil attitudes.  The grid is of human consciousness; it is more like an archive that is the repository of the residue of all human consciousness, positive and negative.  The focus upon negative energy and negative beings is not an aspect that is important to the maintenance or to the cleaning of the grid of the human consciousness.  It will take conscious effort of light by humans and by us to clean the grid, clean the archive of human consciousness.  This archive of human consciousness—you call it the grid—is hundreds of thousands of years old, and as there are more people on your world, it is more capable—we are more capable—of cleaning the grid in much shorter time than it took to build it that way.  And in the future, this grid of human consciousness will be clear and accessible by every individual for right and perfect intentions.  It is accessible by anyone and has a powerful influence on everyone, whether they are aware of it or not.
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*Is there a new process for soul adjudication?
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MMc:  Has Christ Michael provided for a new and unrevealed process for soul adjudication without having the need to call an epochal dispensation?
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MONJORONSON:  No.
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MMc:  I believe you are charged with “terminating the current planetary dispensation.”  What does that actually entail?
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MONJORONSON:  That has been well described to you in your Urantia Book.
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MMc:  Has it already taken place?
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MONJORONSON:  Yes.
    
MMc:  I believe you are charged with “terminating the current planetary dispensation.”  What does that actually entail?
 
MMc:  I believe you are charged with “terminating the current planetary dispensation.”  What does that actually entail?
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MONJORONSON:  Yes.
 
MONJORONSON:  Yes.
 
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*What is our current universe age?
 
MMc:  What is the current universe age called?
 
MMc:  What is the current universe age called?
 
   
 
   
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MONJORONSON:  This world and the other 30-some-odd planets are in an age of recovery and reconstruction, of healing at the individual level and at the social and global level.  You have just come out of quarantine and you are now into recovery.  You are much like a patient who has been under general anesthesia for a long time.  Your recovery is one of awakening consciousness, a realization of who you are, a realization of where you are and your attendant responsibilities to participate in your own healing.  It is important, as a co-creative learning situation, to empower the age of light and life that is to come.
 
MONJORONSON:  This world and the other 30-some-odd planets are in an age of recovery and reconstruction, of healing at the individual level and at the social and global level.  You have just come out of quarantine and you are now into recovery.  You are much like a patient who has been under general anesthesia for a long time.  Your recovery is one of awakening consciousness, a realization of who you are, a realization of where you are and your attendant responsibilities to participate in your own healing.  It is important, as a co-creative learning situation, to empower the age of light and life that is to come.
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*The Melchizedek University
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MMc:  As I understand it, there is a Melchizedek University on Edentia, the constellation capital of Norlatiadek, that has been established to study the Lucifer rebellion and the bestowal of Michael here on Urantia. Is this Melchizedek University due to change its location to Urantia?
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MONJORONSON:  No, it is not.
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MMc:  Is Michael to be standing for election to the University’s new Viceroy?
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MONJORONSON:  No, he is not.
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===='''''[[Corps of Finality]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Corps of Finality]]'''''====
 
MMc:  Is the destiny of the Universe Corps of Finality to become Creator sons in the next universe age?
 
MMc:  Is the destiny of the Universe Corps of Finality to become Creator sons in the next universe age?
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MONJORONSON:  It may; it may not.  Your progress is your own.  You may decide to take side trips, to experience another aspect of yourself along your journey.  There are some who take this journey very seriously, and some who seem to have even gotten lost in their own detours.  It is not important how or when you get there, but to have grown from the journey.
 
MONJORONSON:  It may; it may not.  Your progress is your own.  You may decide to take side trips, to experience another aspect of yourself along your journey.  There are some who take this journey very seriously, and some who seem to have even gotten lost in their own detours.  It is not important how or when you get there, but to have grown from the journey.
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*The Seven Absolutes
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MMc:  Thank you.  Can the Ellipse of Infinity on Paradise be described as seven Absolutes?
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MONJORONSON:  This is not relevant.  It is beyond your comprehension and is a question of an immature spiritual being.  It is not a situation of being chastised for asking the question, but the answer would not be comprehensible to you.
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*The Seven Memorials to the Trinity
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MMc:  Is there a plan to build Seven Memorials to the Trinity on Urantia?
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MONJORONSON:  Not at this time.
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*Who are the ‘Oxygen spirits?
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MMc:  Can you tell me anything about ‘Oxygen beings,’ or ‘Oxygen spirits?’
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MONJORONSON:  Not at this time.
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MMc:  That completes my prepared questions for today.  Would you care to add anything else?
 
MMc:  That completes my prepared questions for today.  Would you care to add anything else?
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===Closing===
 
===Closing===
 
===='''''[[Focus]]''''', '''''[[Light]]'''''====
 
===='''''[[Focus]]''''', '''''[[Light]]'''''====
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MMc:  Do you foresee a time when we can publish this material?
 
MMc:  Do you foresee a time when we can publish this material?
 
   
 
   
MONJORONSON:  We wish you to publish this when you publish the full sessions of the prior ones, where there was only partial publication.  Let us publish all of these simultaneously, <Clip>
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MONJORONSON:  We wish you to publish this when you publish the full sessions of the prior ones, where there was only partial publication.  Let us publish all of these simultaneously, so that the difficulty to those who brought this into existence is made in ‘one fell swoop’ after the conclusion of all the listeners and readers who come to the same conclusion that there had been errors made—many of them—in the development of the transcripts from which these questions originated.  We do not want to prolong the agony of the readership, or those who brought into existence the differences which created the questions.  Let us do that at one time, after it is apparent that I and Christ Michael will not appear by Christmas.
 
   
 
   
 
MMc:  Thank you, Monjoronson.
 
MMc:  Thank you, Monjoronson.
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[Rather abrupt ending, but Monjoronson had already given his closing statement.]
 
[Rather abrupt ending, but Monjoronson had already given his closing statement.]
==Note==
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*See [[2011-11-04-Conversations with Monjoronson 32 (complete)]] submitted January 2, 2012
      
[[Category: The Teaching Mission: Dialogues]]
 
[[Category: The Teaching Mission: Dialogues]]

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