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'''Rob wrote: September 3, 2013 at 6:42pm''' to Dave Tenney, cc'ing Byron Belitsos, Marty Greenhut, Mer Tenney, and Rick Voss. Also sent this to Oliver Deux and Gerdean.
 
'''Rob wrote: September 3, 2013 at 6:42pm''' to Dave Tenney, cc'ing Byron Belitsos, Marty Greenhut, Mer Tenney, and Rick Voss. Also sent this to Oliver Deux and Gerdean.
 
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==USA Moral Upholder?==
 
In this lesson, it appears "the Triumvirate" has come down on the side of Fox News and the NeoCon agenda citing the US government as "''moral upholder''" for the world against the Syrian government described as corrupt by contrast. This suggests a moral imperative for use of unilateral military action without having presented any evidence of who the guilty party is in the recent use of chemical weapons amidst so much conflicting information. One might have hoped that a more sane position would be forthcoming from a "higher intelligence" such as encouraging an independent investigation whose findings could be referred to the Security Council who might ask the ICC to assign a sentence upon the guilty. Disappointing to say the least.   
 
In this lesson, it appears "the Triumvirate" has come down on the side of Fox News and the NeoCon agenda citing the US government as "''moral upholder''" for the world against the Syrian government described as corrupt by contrast. This suggests a moral imperative for use of unilateral military action without having presented any evidence of who the guilty party is in the recent use of chemical weapons amidst so much conflicting information. One might have hoped that a more sane position would be forthcoming from a "higher intelligence" such as encouraging an independent investigation whose findings could be referred to the Security Council who might ask the ICC to assign a sentence upon the guilty. Disappointing to say the least.   
    
Would you like to register your opinion in the discussion page?--rdavis 23:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 
Would you like to register your opinion in the discussion page?--rdavis 23:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
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==September 3==
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'''Gerdean wrote: September 3, 2013 at 8:29pm'''
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I would not take too seriously any counsel from anyone who thinks Central America is a continent.
    
'''Oliver wrote: September 3, 2013 at 10:14pm'''
 
'''Oliver wrote: September 3, 2013 at 10:14pm'''
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==September 4==
 
'''Rob wrote: September 4, 2013 at 11:16am'''
 
'''Rob wrote: September 4, 2013 at 11:16am'''
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Several persons whose opinions were invited replied expressing doubt about the validity of this document, but all of these requested their comments to be withheld from public view. All others simply avoided any reply.
 
Several persons whose opinions were invited replied expressing doubt about the validity of this document, but all of these requested their comments to be withheld from public view. All others simply avoided any reply.
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'''Gerdean wrote: September 4, 2013 at 10:29pm (edited version of post to tml)'''
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Snipping away the dross ....
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*<u>The situation in Syria</u>
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"Although this will not develop into a World War, it will have all the repercussions of a World War, both with the disruption of societies, economies, political stability and social stability throughout most nations."
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My response is: if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck, chances are it's a duck. Same with war. Call it what you will, such as the Korean Conflict, which never was called a war, but it had the same effect ... especially on the soldiers.
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*<u>The destiny of the Americas</u>
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"This nation and these continents of North, Central and South America are continents of destiny."
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Central America is not a continent.
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*<u>The upholder of moral action on a global scale</u>
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How can anyone consider the US to be an upholder of moral action? Not for a lonnnnnng time have we been considered "moral."
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*<u>The Syrian government is morally corrupt</u>
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"The situation you see in the Middle East is violent, very destructive and if the intentions are correct and we can be of influence to that area, then they will become socially sustainable, developing, evolving societies."
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Is Charles a conservative or a liberal celestial?
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*<u>Bringing about peace on a primitive planet like Urantia</u>
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If Syria is adjudged morally corrupt because it has gassed its own people in order to eliminate them, what about America eliminating its own people through chemtrails, endless wars (or, excuse me, bloody and endless non-wars), poisoning their food, or depriving people of medical attention? I am having a hard time determining where moral corruption takes up and where it leaves off.
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"Do you clearly understand our position regarding the violence being done by the dictators and by your nation?" Evidently not.
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*<u>The unraveling of societies and economies</u>
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It seems that the violence that we are about to inflict, or will inflict upon that government is necessary to bring it into some kind of moral line to force them to the realization that moral beings do not kill their own people.
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CHARLES: Yes.
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I fail to understand how killing those who kill will teach people not to kill.
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Speaking of "... pandemics that will then spread uncontrollably ..." I thought our task was to spread the benign virus.
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*<u>A moral responsibility to be part of the reconstruction</u>
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I wish you would repeat those "three core values of social sustainability" every time you make reference to them. It is evidently not yet obvious and self-evident what they are.
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*<u>The vectors of spreading disease</u>
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not to mention dis-ease
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*<u>The decline of societies will be very rapid</u>
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stock up on duct tape!
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*<u>The majority of people worldwide are unprepared</u>
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That's why it is a spiritual mission! The spirit is the only way we can succeed.
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My God! This is dismal!
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*<u>The need for new paradigms in politics and economics</u>
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Here they go again, telling us we need a vast decimation of the population as there are far too many people. In that case, you'd think Syrians were the smart ones, to eliminate their excess population.
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*<u>The purpose and intentions of the Triumvirate</u>
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"Whether you are rich or poor, you are seen as a social asset to society whose quality and value can be improved with training and through education and opportunities to develop your potential to grow, to improve your quality of life."
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Now we're talking zooidal!
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*<u>The lack of planetary management perspective by societies</u>
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Again ... WHAT "three values of social sustainability"? If this were the first transcript of this sort I had ever come across, I wouldn't get it because those critical words are missing.
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*<u>The sovereignty of “all,” of “oneness”</u>
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I'm tired. I quit.

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