Talk:2014-08-13-Faith and Its Application to the Mind

Given the widespread doubt about Ron's stability, I am placing the disinformation warning on all his transmissions given no one is discussing them outside the small circle of his devotees.--rdavis 02:26, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Bigoted Nonsense

Rob wrote: Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:03 PM

Dear Friends,

Recently, Ron Besser has cultivated a few new TR's who seem to be alone and solely dependent upon him for their instruction, and of course Ron continues his own transmitting. The quality of these recent additions leaves much to be desired. In the case of Ron's recent piece attributed to Paul of Tarsus, he

1. Repeatedly uses references to Zoroastrianism as Zorasterism (I corrected), and Zorasterists (I corrected) and defines this religion as "a "belief in God incarnate without a God in heaven" and "in that day was into sacrifices to the world of spirit that found its place in Greece" Really?! [1]

What kind of bigoted nonsense is this? I have rarely seen such inept thinking. It doesn't end there because

2. He has Paul referring to Tarsus as a "little town that sits on the Mediterranean, some fifty five miles from the capital of the Roman Empire, Rome itself." [2]

There are other problems with this piece, but I grow weary of editing thoughts that read as very bad 2nd grade sunday school lessons at best while enduring a sense of offense against the intelligence that inspired the Teaching Mission.

Your thoughts?

Gratefully,

Rob

1.a. Zoroaster was himself directly in contact with the descendants of the earlier Melchizedek missionaries, and their doctrine of the one God became a central teaching in the religion which he founded in Persia. Aside from Judaism, no religion of that day contained more of these Salem teachings. (131:5)

1.b. The doctrine of the Abrahamic covenant was virtually extinct in Persia when, in that great century of moral renaissance, the sixth before Christ, Zoroaster appeared to revive the smouldering embers of the Salem gospel. (95:6)

1.c. The cult of Mithras arose in Iran and long persisted in its homeland despite the militant opposition of the followers of Zoroaster. But by the time Mithraism reached Rome, it had become greatly improved by the absorption of many of Zoroaster's teachings. (98:5]

2. From Tarsus to Rome is a 5hr40min plane trip and around 34 hour car trip

Steffani wrote: Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:37 AM

Maybe he was referring to another different cult...the ZorroAsteRisks*?

Rob wrote: Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:44 AM

Even if the Teaching Mission Dialogues were a comic strip, the piece would still be unacceptable.

Steffani wrote: at, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM

Sadly, "channeled" material is often believed without fact checking due diligence, just like political campaign propaganda ads are accepted by lazy 'true believers' in "my side"...whichever it happens to be.

Rob wrote: Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:57 PM

It isn't just 'channelled' material; anything wrapped in a cloak of authority offers an excuse for lazy minds to avoid "adjusting to the progressive struggles of living" ([[132:3|1]}) in the face of the unknown.