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I am reminded of [[143:5|Nalda’s question]] of whether true worship is ‘here’ or ‘there’ meeting the Master’s reply that in the kingdom worship is "neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem...now you worship that which you know not, a mixture of the religion of many pagan gods and gentile philosophies…the hour…now is when all sincere worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth.” Quite a difference between the kingdom of heaven and second hand (at best) religions about books.
 
I am reminded of [[143:5|Nalda’s question]] of whether true worship is ‘here’ or ‘there’ meeting the Master’s reply that in the kingdom worship is "neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem...now you worship that which you know not, a mixture of the religion of many pagan gods and gentile philosophies…the hour…now is when all sincere worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth.” Quite a difference between the kingdom of heaven and second hand (at best) religions about books.
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==January 7, 2017==
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'''Marty wrote at 6:33am'''
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Good one Rob!
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I'm going to leave off with my inclination to take all TRd transcripts with skepticism of my discernment of truth and skepticism of the transcript's validity. Though giving them all a chance to go either way.
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In the case of this message, it came from Nick Scalzo whom I know since 1975 with whom I had an extensive exchange when the Foundation disfellowshipped the Urantia Brotherhood. Nick said that the Foundation was demanding its authority and that we of the Brotherhood should accommodate their decisions. I was infuriated and I remember shouting at him at the top of my lungs. We are still friends and I give Nick credit for introducing me  to handwritten T/Rd transcripts from Canada which he dared not show to others at the meeting at the home of Dave and Marta Elders. These transcripts described the setting and activities of the Adjudication of the Lucifer Rebellion. I generally trust Nick as a deeply sincere truth-seeker.
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In regard to your teachings about worship, I totally agree with you. I live in worship and need not a church to worship my Father. However I have greatly enjoyed group worship in the Synagogues, churches and Urantia gatherings. Sometimes I take out my old Hebrew liturgies and read some of the prayers in the original Hebrew and Aramaic. The prayer that Jesus gave his family and apostles (and the rest of us), "Our Father who art in Heaven, Hallowed by thy name...." I recited in synagogues in Aramaic three times daily. It is called "The Kadish" which starts out, "Hallowed and Sanctified be your awesome name, May your name be blessed in all eternity." and it goes on expressing hope that The kingdom on Earth become like unto the Kingdom in Heaven ...
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Woke up this morning to 20 degrees Fahrenheit and 4 inches of snow here in Marshall. Still snowing. Brrr...Have to milk and feed the goats.
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Love to all of you out there.
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Marty
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'''Mer wrote at 7:08am'''
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Well, Marty;
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      It's only 16 degrees here....glad I don't have any goats to feed! It's such a joy to read what you write; like breathing in the rarified air of Havona!  You mention in your last letter that communication with a TA might be a 'hotline to God'. I began on my spiritual journey after receiving a message from my TA when I was 36. I tried and tried every day to hear more for years. It wasn't until 15 years later that I began relationships with Michael, Mother, Machiventa, and Monjoronson. This morning I talked with Gabriel...it was a lovely conversation that felt REAL. I put my life on the line, and act on those messages I deem to be genuine. But unfortunately, I do not find my communication with my TA any more inerrant than my communication with the rest of my celestial family. Yes, I get perfect messages that are right on, but I also get imperfect messages. The trick is knowing which is which and being able to move in faith on your best understanding, while accepting that you may have it wrong at least in part and probably do!
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      I am fully willing to concede that there are others more spiritually advanced than I on the planet. Perhaps there exists a clear channel that only gets right answers...I just have not met them yet. Some of the most spiritually august individuals I know are in this group, yet there's not one of us that is capable of inerrant communication, to my knowledge. Anybody here feel that 100% of the time they've got it right?  Personally, I'd rate Rob Crickett with his Adjuster Fusion Institute as one of the most spiritually advanced people I've met, but even he gets it wrong at times...so I'll continue to believe it's best to acknowledge the possibility of error.
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What a blessing to know you all,
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Mer
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ps. Got our first donation of $10,000. yesterday!
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'''Marty wrote at 10:14am'''
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Wow! $10,000.00!
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Looks like the Midwayers are at work, Mer. Let's thank Father for the help.
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I have had two instances of celestial communication in words. The first was in 1974 when I was in my last of a five year intensive study of the UB in the Jesus papers and I stopped to pray to Christ Michael to prevent a nuclear war. It may have been in Nixon's presidency. I just remember the war threats and my heart and soul asking for peace on earth. Michael clearly answered my prayer saying, "I will not permit a nuclear war."
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The second time that I heard a clearly worded transmission from Michael was when Rob Davis announced his plans for archiving and publishing the Teaching Mission transcripts
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which Gerdean and I were already doing full time and we wondered if we should quit this work or carry it on. We decided to have a telephone meeting with Michael in which Gerdean wanted to T/R Michael's answer for us. While I awaited the clock to tick into the time of Gerdean's call, Christ Michael started telling me His answer to our question which he simply continued to do as Gerdean started T/Ring His message. We were told to carry on with our work and were very pleased to see the new perspectives that Rob's work presented.
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I am certain of the Father's will in my life especially as I look back at the wonders that occurred as I rejected main stream life and became a radical activist finding and teaching new perspectives of righteous living.
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Gloria and I went to work for Jesus, full time ("Is not the laborer worthy of his hire?") That was in 1969 before the UB hit us. If I need to know an answer from God as to what to do I leave it for Father to answer overnight and in the morning I know what to do. Father is in contact with many of us this way...not in words but in living relationship. You are a very good example of such as that Mer as is this entire group.
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It is an unspeakable pleasure to have such an informal conclave with y'all.
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Marty
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'''Rob wrote at 12:41pm'''
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Marty -
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It appears we are of one mind on worship - in spirit and truth!
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Perfect communication does not entail use of word symbols but operates as a “direct flash” of intelligence “straight to the intellect” of any recipient. Words are twice removed from their source, but they are nevertheless helpful to those who cannot ‘hear' in silence. Of course perfect communication occurs where the mind is “consciously quite unconcerned” with its phenomena, focused instead upon the priority of communion where "there exists no need for communication” as we typically understand it.
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I would remind you of the purpose of Daynal Institute serving those students who have savored [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=Epoch_V many revelatory texts] given to our world during this time of accelerated change to explore their source within e.g. a deeper probe of the inner life. The purpose is to surmount the [http://nordan.daynal.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_great_challenge great challenge] of our time by fostering a culture of communion such that personal communication with God may be characterized less with the methods of ''indirection'' than direct flashes of intelligence to the intellects of his human partners!
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Gratefully,
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Rob
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